Also, the ATV2.5 is fine for small charges under 50 grains or so. But I load 375CT and 50 BMG - it has to do 2-3 throws for 135 and 236 grain charges, and with the lumber logs, it gets all bound up and I have to waste a bunch of charges that are 20+ grains under. Too long to trickle up, so I have to dump them.

I have come to agree with the ATV3 + IPT guys - that's currently the best setup if you can cobble it together...

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So is it sub moa or are you going to have to contact Howa?

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It's shooting better than I expected. Wolf steel case is not exactly precision ammo....it's more in the category of "as long as it goes bang". I had to turn the barrel diameter down, always an accuracy killer. Plus, the barrel has the handguard, rear sight block, front sight, forend cap, cleaning rod, gas tube, and suppressor all attached to it. Hitting those clay pigeons at 100 yds with a red dot and steel case plinking ammo was an impressive feat in my book. The red dot completely covered the pigeon and I had to use the spotting scope to even see if I hit the pigeon.

I will say this as a public service announcement. I messed up the cocking piece in the bolt and called Legacy Sports International, the Howa distributor, to get a new one. They refused to sell me the part. They wanted to know if I was a "Licensed Gunsmith". Well things only deteriorated from there when I asked "licensed by who"? So I will never buy another product from Legacy Sports International, distributors for Howa, Citadel, Puma, Pointer, and Nikko Sterling.

I just went and welded up the old cocking piece.

BTT, tons of stock, PM the Suppressor you are looking for, for best Pricing.

Tax sale for all NF optics, PM the CXXX model you are looking for.

So a little more than half that posted they want one.... sent in a email. So all of you that did send a email in I sent a order confirmation back.

On behalf of Bartlein Barrels.....thanks for the orders!

Also Thanks to the guys that are first time/new customers to us as well. Also thanks to you guys that are returning customers either directly or indirectly that have gotten our barrels in the past.

Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels

I'm trying to avoid disconnecting the wires. I'll figure it out. Thanks for the suggestions! This ATV4 is better than I gave it credit for the first time around. And I know MKM Tyler, he will hook me up.

btt

Schw15 said:

I have a v4 and love it. I use the shims and the plastic tip. I throw 87 grains of n568 in 12 to 15 seconds with very few over throws. The powder is big so I keep it within 86.98 to 87.04 and it's good. My sd and es are low. When getting the powder out I just take off the powder hoppet put it in the back open the window. Then turn the machine on the big tube for a bit then the little tube. Empty the cup and put the hopper in the back window again and tilt the machine back and it comes out empty and easy.

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After pulling powder hopper and dumping powder from back, just lift the V4 and dump the tubes. I dump right into the hopper no spills.

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$1000 shipped/insured

Hey Chikn






@armorpl8chikn

yea prob BS but i still want to see any stuff Milei releases. gonna be some things the NWO won't like.

weekend_warlord said:

You put the whole rifle into an ultrasonic cleaner?

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LOL no just the lower receiver hence the wear on the safety selector and mag release just not trying to misrepresent anything.

Still available

$1000 shipped barreled action, mag, no brake/stock

Looks like it says 45-70 on the barrel.

We have had some premium brands at a premium price with atrocious warranties and customer service. Unfortunately, we end up getting stuck in the middle of trying to assist the customer to their satisfaction (That's what she said) and not pissing off our vendor. Depending on the situation we need to assess on the best solution, and at times it could rub either or both sides the wrong way.

It's happened to many times IMO and we take the blunt of it. So some of these companies we are no longer affiliated with whether it's a consistent QC issue, CS issue or long wait times for resolutions. Unfortunately, with lawyers looking for reasons to spend a clients retainer we would never post it online or in writing regardless of having receipts to verify our claims.

You can make the best product in the world, but if you lack in areas like warranty, QC, CS, repair times etc...
I take that into account with trying to find the best product for each individual, whether we carry it or not.
Would I like to sit down with March next time I'm at SHOT and not trying to accomplish everything I needed in just one day? Absolutely! BTW thanks again to @koshkin and @Covertnoob5 for your guidance at my first time at Shot Show in 2024.

There are plenty of brands we do not carry that I have and would psrsonally recommend that we do not carry.
I do not own the company so we can't carry every brand that I'd even like to stock.

-Richard

CSTactical said:

I took it differently, to me it seemed like a deflection to steer the discussion off topic IMO.

Over $3k there are manufacturer's that provide lifetime warranty that doesn't need to be shipped overseas and provides excellent customer service.

-Richard

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It definitely was not meant to deflect or steer the discussion off topic. It was exactly as CB stated.

I well understand people have some trepidation with having to send an expensive scope back to Japan. I have been shooting with March scopes for about 14 years now, various models, but mainly F-class with a 5-50X56, then a 10-60X56 HM and now with my beloved Majesta. I have others on different rifles, a 1.15-15X42 and a 4.5-28X52 HM, all excellent scopes. I have only ever sent one back to Japan and that was because I used it for so long that my eyes changed, and I could no longer see the thin MTR-2 reticle in my 5-50X56. It came back within about 4 weeks with an MTR-5 reticle, and I was back in business. When I got my 10-60X56 HM, I made sure it had the MTR-5 reticle. And when the Majesta arrived, it was sporting the MTR-WFD reticle, of course.

As an addendum, when the 5-50X56 came back with its new reticle, DEON has taken the opportunity to clean and test it fully and they said they fixed the focus at extreme range, something I had not had an issue with. I forget the exact words, but it was in a letter that accompanied the scope when it came back. The scope itself looked pristine. I do take good care of my optics, but they just cleaned it up more. And recharged it with argon gas.

Yes, scopes are built by people, and people can and do make mistakes. This is why DEON as such extensive QC throughout the process and extensive QA before shipping. If one does need to go back, they will fix it and tell you what they did to it.