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Rifle Scopes Vortex RG3 6-36x56, Element Theos 6-36x56 and Zeiss LRP S3 6-36x56 Review

Seems like they are all so close, that it either becomes a feature or reticle you really want/like that one has the others don't, or you go strictly by price. So the "winner by a nose" becomes what feature is important or what thing do you value more, that's something really only the individual can evaluate. Unfortunately it's kind of where "buy to try" comes in, or you have to get to a match etc. where you can hopefully handle all 3. Don't get me wrong these reviews are amazing to get 90% of the way there to the right decision but if all 3 products are say 90% the same, the last 10% becomes individual preference. That's where I think the depth of these reviews is amazing because so many factors of the optics are compared head to head.

For example some folks really like the big bold turret marks on the Zeiss, but I'm personally not a fan. Even though my eyes are the downslope, I like the larger lettering on whole mils, which I wish more scopes had, but the half mill marks and the marks for the second rotation (we all should be able to add 10 to the #) make it way too "busy". That said I'd love to see bigger numbers on the vortex/theos. By contrast I like the Zeiss windage knob markings much more. Some people are huge on warranty so Vortex might get the nod there. Other folks want daylight bright so maybe that's a factor. If you really want a tooless zero, the Theos has that, if it works well I wasn't impressed with the tooless zero on the XTR Pro. Even brand matters, for example if I have 6 vortex scopes now with the EBR-7C reticle and that's what I'm used to, do I want to throw a different reticle into the mix.....maybe not.

Logically in my mind the biggest factors in a scope should be the things you interact with, turrets, optics, reticle (not necc. in that order). I admittedly hate mushy turrets, even if functionally they work great. Others care less about turret feel and have to have maximum optical quality at a price point.

Now of course mechanical reliability, and accuracy of adjustments matters, but we all know those vary sample to sample so there's no easy way to test them that's meaningful across a large sample size. Aside the tracking testing SH does, that they no longer release the results of due to manufacturer pressure.
^^^ couldn’t have said it better myself, some great advice here.

Optics Leupold Optics in stock

New Year, New product lines, Leupold Optics tons in stock : VX-6HD, VX-5HD, MARK 5HD, MARK 4HD, just to name a few.
Here are a few models in stock AT MAP.. PM for best pricing.

Leupold Mark 5HD 7-35x56 (35mm) M5C3 FFP Illum. Tremor 3 Riflescope 177333 $3299 MAP​


Leupold Mark 5HD 5-25x56mm M5C3 Matte Illuminated Tremor 3 171777 $2999 MAP​


Leupold Mark 5HD 3.6-18x44 (35mm) M5C3 FFP Illum. Tremor 3 Riflescope 176811 $2799 MAP​


Leupold Mark 5HD 2-10x30mm (35mm) M5C3 Matte Front Focal Illum TMR Riflescope 179703 $2499 MAP​

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Maggie’s Funny & awesome pics, vids and memes thread (work safe, no nudity)

Was not too long ago, good men would simply open an XL can of whoop-ass and it would be over in seconds and the freaking animals would think twice about aping out in public. This shit really galls me.
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Pope Death Watch... WITH A PRIZE!!! Quart of Maple Syrup to the winner!

It was no coincidence that Reagan and JP2 were 'serving' at the same time.

John Paul did as much to bring down the East Bloc as the US did. His work in Poland was the first crack that brought the Berlin Wall tumbling down.

And both were subjects of assassination attempts... that would have made the world a very different place today.

If this commie POS dies soon... then maybe, just maybe, we'll get a good old fashioned fire-and brimstone "Families not fags" Pope who gets off the green shit... cleans out the socialists who have infested the church since the 1980's... and stomps the shit out of the Globalists.

Sirhr
Got that right, JP2 was a man amongst men. Tough little Pollock. RIP
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223 Ackley Improved

I’ve been fighting a 223 Ackley for a good while.
Seems that I can achieve decent accuracy or decent ES/SD’s but not both.

Fireforming Lapua 55 fmj factory load shoots .5 with SD of 7-8 but a 75 eldm on 4895 or Varget disappoint.

I’ve deep cleaned the barrel & accuracy showed a marked improvement. So I’ll try again.

Anybody else had a tussle getting a 223Ai to act right?
I run a hot load of 8208XBR in mine with 75s.
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Anyone Shooting a 40x?

I was fortunate enough to be qualified to purchase two 40XBs & a single old 40X from the CMP from 2004-2007. The prices were right - in the $385 range, and the two heavy 40XBs were in really nice shape, and both shot really well at 50-100yds with the Lapua made Wolf Match Target & Match Extra I was shooting back then. I let a good friend have one of the 40XBs, and wound up pulling the bbls off the other two, then sending the actions off to Jonathan Elrod at Modocam Rifles for the conversion to repeaters using V22 magazines. I did the machine work to install a Lilja titebore on the converted 40XB, and did the same with a Benchmark blank for the 40X. Both shot very well with these custom barrels that I chambered with an EPS reamer, and I shot them in PRS-type 22rf matches at a semi-local club, being well pleased with both of them. When Vudoo released their Gen 1 actions, I bought one of the early ones and put a Krieger in sendero profile on it. The Vudoo was every bit as accurate - probably a bit better - than either of the converted 40Xs, and it ran smoother. Kinda makes me wish I'd have kept the 40XB in its original state as a single shot target rifle, but it's still an absolute hammer as a repeater with good lots of SK Rifle Match & Lapua Center-X. Photo is of the 40XB with 26" Lilja titebore bbl, in a Manners T4A in woodland camo w/mini-chassis, and Athlon Cronus scope. That Lilja bbl is one of the most accurate barrels I've done for any of my rifles, but it needs wiped out with Ed's Red every 125~ rounds to maintain that accuracy.

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