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Glassaholic · Dec 20, 2024

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Emerson0311 · Dec 20, 2024

Threadcutter308 said:
There is so much Stupid in this article, it's mind boggling.

"Oh, it was a Lone Wolf Attack, he was working alone. There's no more danger".

Yeah, right. Right up until the next one happens.

Germany terror attack: Two dead after car ploughs into Christmas market crowd

A car ploughed into a crowd at a German Christmas market on Friday, killing at least two people, including a small child, and leaving almost 70 wounded in a lone wolf terror attack.

www.telegraph.co.uk

The causes of this are actively supported by ruling white liberal satanists. The last word descriptor is key, because it is the only thing thing that separates the supporters from the victims.

Bataction · Dec 20, 2024

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strikeeagle1 · Dec 20, 2024

Caveat emptor!......but, off with the Sellers' head nonetheless.
Happy Holidays to one and All!

diggler1833 · Dec 20, 2024

RTTY said:
Hello @diggler1833 , thanks for the fast reply!
I hope your vacation are on the tropical place...

For this pressure I can use only new brass or I can charge also brass with 9 or 10 firing at 35gn with 69,5mm of OAL?
For warm up the load come down of about half grain...

I cant stress enough to do your own load development, and trust more what your brass says than an online tool. Look for obvious pressure signs. If they exist, then don't use that higher load at all.

Assuming that you are using Lapua brass, I'd bet that you can get many loadings on it, even if you are around 59K. Used brass is fine, just check it every cycle. If the primers go in or come out with no resistance..it's time to scrap that piece of brass. I'm also assuming a quality chamber in the barrel and annealing (case head separation and neck splitting).

Guys have been hot rodding (loading up to very high pressures) the 6.5x47 for a long time. Much of that has to do with the brass quality.

That being said, I personally stick with the lower node. I am the minority here however. Out to just 600 yards you aren't giving much up if you run it 30 m/s slower...that's only about 19cm difference in drop, and less than 4cm difference in wind with the 139gr Scenar.

Speed will matter more as you go out further.

I run 123gr bullets at about 860m/s, and 130s about 830m/s.

You'll have to forgive me if I don't try to use the metric system anymore this week.

SLAYIN'SWEDE · Dec 20, 2024

Magpul CTR mil spec with 3/4” cheekriser, enhanced buttpad & printed bag rider.
$70 shipped PP F&F or Venmo

oneshot.onehit · Dec 20, 2024

With everything the same you will still see a difference in one to the next due to the tooling used in the rifling one barrel could have a sharper edge on possibly just one of the lands versus another even though they are the same - at the end it distorts the bullet differently from the next barrel thus changing the BC slightly and impacts. Harmonics should be close but yet could be different the rifling/ lands after being cut by the same will still effect the end result.

When it gets close in reference to the comparisons then distance will weed things apart.

JH

Emerson0311 · Dec 20, 2024

Rodney65 said:
My 24" CTR was close to 100fps slower than several 24" Bartleins. It's pretty noticeable.

Mine is 24” also.

Sean the Nailer · Dec 20, 2024

Bullfrog08 said:
I don't need an expert to tell me that something hot, like fire, might hurt my skin. I don't need an expert to tell me something really cold might also hurt my skin. I also don't need an expert to tell me that something that makes me feel high might be bad for me, just like I don't need an expert to tell me that something that goes "boom" might be dangerous.

If you can't manage the things you put in your mouth, the things you touch, the things you stare at with your eyeballs, then I don't care how they harm you.

Stupidity is why we have labels on things, why we have more laws than we need, why we have to wait 8 months for a gun muffler! Personal responsibility is something we really need to work on as a society.

I'm not one bit sad that people jacked their lives up with drugs. People are smart enough to know better. We all make our own bed, so lay in it!

I'm glad doctors got kick backs for prescribing drugs, because capitalism WORKS! And fuck these same doctors now holding back these drugs fo legit patients now struggling with pain. It's not their fault retards couldn't manage pills!

You really don't know what you're talking about.

In truth, I Pray that you never do actually learn the hard way. I don't wish that on anyone, and yes, I'm speaking from personal experience. You may very well not think that's the way things are,,, but they do.

That, and the fact that there's a hemispherical difference between "dependency" and "addiction".

Merry Christmas

Lets all move on to bigger/badder/better things to talk about. Maybe we'll get somewhere.

Teflon16 · Dec 20, 2024

Bump with price drop to 3000

StrayDog · Dec 20, 2024

Another vote for OTM, perfection in my LRH.

Rob01 · Dec 20, 2024

spife7980 said:
He means with out adjusting it. Neck doesn’t grow enough and so you get just a partial chamfer. I’ve definitely noticed it, I’ve never been able to tell that it has mattered. Mainly in old brass.
But like you say, adjust it a thou or two lower and you’ll get the full thing.

Yeah if you set it for new brass then fire it and the shoulder blows out and the neck shortens some then of course you have to adjust it down a little to reach it. That’s just common sense.

Supersubes · Dec 20, 2024

I had a badger M2008 and an Aw at the same time. The AW was better. The 2013 was an improvement though. Remember that when the AT came out, it was $2k cheaper than the AW that preceded it. So buying the real McCoy vs the M2013 made obvious sense at the time. But if you didn't like the AI stock, and many didnt, the Badger was the only game in town.

None of that takes away from your rifle. Having 5k rounds on it only improved it. You have a kick ass rifle, enjoy it!

spife7980 · Dec 20, 2024

Rob01 said:
Sounds like your buddy doesn’t know how to use his Giraud trimmer as it will trim down to almost the shoulder if you adjust it down that far. Lol He needs to learn how to adjust it.

He means with out adjusting it. Neck doesn’t grow enough and so you get just a partial chamfer. I’ve definitely noticed it, I’ve never been able to tell that it has mattered. Mainly in old brass.
But like you say, adjust it a thou or two lower and you’ll get the full thing.

Californio · Dec 20, 2024

I could care less what color she is, it's the Marxist Ideology I object too.

Rob01 · Dec 20, 2024

OzzyO20 said:
I was talking with a buddy the other day about power trimmers. Getting back into loading after a few years away. I have a question for folks that have used the Giraud, and then the Henderson.

My buddy said he’s had occasions where the Giraud wouldn’t quite go all the way to just perform the chamfer and de-burr process if the brass hadn’t grown enough to need the trimming as well.

I read through a good bit of this thread, and I want to confirm what I’m assuming. Is this a non issue with the Henderson since it pushes from the rear of the case, vs the Giraud going off the shoulder?

I’ve had a few chambers do what my buddy’s dasher did and the brass essentially quit growing after a few firings and didn’t need trimmed. Just want to make sure the Henderson will still chamfer and deburr regardless unlike the Giraud.

Thanks guys.

Sounds like your buddy doesn’t know how to use his Giraud trimmer as it will trim down to almost the shoulder if you adjust it down that far. Lol He needs to learn how to adjust it.

mjh30 · Dec 20, 2024

50 yards

502Chevelle · Dec 20, 2024

Come on over. BFC is right about good tools. I’m having to go back and re do some of my purchases with an upgrade. Seriously, if you have questions, throw them out there. I think all of us want to help people get better at this. Also, don’t be afraid to make some very expensive fire wood like I did this week! lol…

Gtscotty · Dec 20, 2024

Bantam1 said:
So what is the powder everyone seems to have settled on for the 108 grain loads? I am about ready to start loading for mine. I finally have depleted the factory ammo I bought for barrel break in and learning the platform a little more. I see AR comp for the 90ish grain loads. I am sitting on a full case of 108 ELDM to start load development.

With the factory Hornady 108 I am getting around 2670 for velocity with the 20" Proof barrel. If I can keep it around there I would be happy.

I think most folks are running LVR, especially if you are looking to match factory velocities. Other similar options would be CFE223 and AA2520. Personally my load with the 108gr is 29.3gr LVR, 450s, 20 thou off, matches up to the factory velocities fairly well, a little faster in warm temps. The 29.1gr to 29.5gr range for LVR has been a sweet spot for me across several bullets in the 95gr to 108gr weights.

Attached is some data Sierra sent me, doesn't include LVR, but has CFE223 which is similar, and for the 100gr and 110gr loads, matches up to Hornady data pretty well. The 107gr data is weirdly low compared to the two other weights bracketing it though.

Terry Cross · Dec 20, 2024

jzerfoss said:
@Terry Cross it fits like a glove and the captv-mag feature works like a charm from what little I've messed with it! I think this is my favorite bottom metal I've played with! Thank you
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Thank you so much for sharing that info.
That rig looks sick!
Very, very cool rifle AND you're running one of my favorite scopes. Now go wear that thing out!

I appreciate your business.
You and yours have a blessed Christmas

T

lash · Dec 20, 2024

Redmanss said:
Check it again, Klein covers hand tools for the "normal life of the product". I bet a box of bullets they'll cover it.

Warranty

Klein Tools is committed to American Manufacturing, since 1857. For over 160 years, Klein Tools has remained dedicated to professional tradesmen worldwide, with a commitment to manufacturing the world's finest hand tools right here in America. We don't just make great products, we make great...

www.kleintools.com

Now if it's worth sending it in for something you can easily and inexpensively do yourself, that's another question.

Wow, that’s weird. I must have had the wrong page when I read that.

Edit: …”Proof of purchase from an Authorized Klein Tools Distributor is required for all warranty claims.”

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