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Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

No wrong, first some cannot be saved, ever.

So would you let a REFORMED "saved" pedophile baby sit your children?

Going to sleep at night knowing the exact date and time of your demise is a far worse punishment
than prison watching basketball on tv.
I never said he should be released. I said he might repent in prison, develop a relationship with the Lord, and be saved from Hell upon his death, in prison. I never meant to imply he should ever be free again.

Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

The problem with "Life without Parole" is the defendant can still have family visits, etc., albeit through a glass shield. A victim's family no longer has that luxury. Justice denied. If, for example, one could be sentenced to "Life without Parole and total Solitary confinement with no family or other visitors, then that might work.But I'm sure most defense lawyers would sue for that being "cruel & unusual" punishment.

Taking a life in this context (Capital Punishment) is a matter of justice, and nothing else. It's not "vengeance" at all. One only takes the life after the entire justice process has run its course and it's confirmed that the correct and appropriate punishment is Death. "Vengeance" involves taking that life without the benefit of the full justice process (ie, "lynching"). That is wrong and should never happen.

With forfeiture of the defendant's life, at least the VIctim's survivors and the defendant's survivors are now on equal footing. Horrible footing, yes, but "equal."
While I completely understand where you are coming from, is our justice system really designed to equalize outcomes? I guess I've never looked at the court system as an official state-run "eye-for-an-eye" organization.

I think its all about public safety. This person needs to be removed from society for the safety of everyone else. So he'll be incarcerated. The possibility of incarceration also serves as a deterrent against people committing crimes in the first place, so the more heinous crimes have much longer punishments not only to remove the worst threats from society longer, but to deter that behavior in the first place.

There isn't anything that we can do to this person that will make the Kirk family feel made whole. If that was the goal, we'd have to bring this kid's loved ones into the town square and shoot one of them. I just don't think equal outcomes is what our courts are about, but maybe I'm wrong.

Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

I hate to say it but after hours of scouring every version of his mugshot I could find on the internet, I cannot find any sign of the scope whacking the fuck out of him. :confused:

I started to just download one of the mugshots and do some "enhancements" to make it look like he got bit by the ocular.
I stopped short because I knew that the finely tuned minds and sharp eyes of the Perry Mason forum members here would spot the fake bobo.

Then . . . . we would get another 128 pages of conspiracy speculation added to this thread about whether it was real or not. . .

So, no. No one owes Terry a Blizzard.

This makes Terry sad.
Sad x 1 because I didn't get lucky with my guess.
Sad x 2 because the bitch didn't get clocked by the '06.

Tragically, . . . without a Blizzard Terry could waste away to normal. 😢
Don't worry, we don't think you'll ever be normal.

Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

So do we owe Terry a Blizzard?
I hate to say it but after hours of scouring every version of his mugshot I could find on the internet, I cannot find any sign of the scope whacking the fuck out of him. :confused:

I started to just download one of the mugshots and do some "enhancements" to make it look like he got bit by the ocular.
I stopped short because I knew that the finely tuned minds and sharp eyes of the Perry Mason forum members here would spot the fake bobo.

Then . . . . we would get another 128 pages of conspiracy speculation added to this thread about whether it was real or not. . .

So, no. No one owes Terry a Blizzard.

This makes Terry sad.
Sad x 1 because I didn't get lucky with my guess.
Sad x 2 because the bitch didn't get clocked by the '06.

Tragically, . . . without a Blizzard Terry could waste away to normal. 😢

Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

The first amendment protects you from the government. It is not a card blanche to harass your fellow citizens.

I would see this as a good thing. The almost certain winner in a civil war would will be a foreign, hostile entity.
that is right the mex army with attached cartel brigades would over run the SW. BTW there are many cartel fighting units and individuals already here. the Chinese or Russians next? likely as our military would be in pieces and distracted. the question is would that be a worse outcome than the end point of what is happening and has been for years? can western civ survive what is? Europe is gone except for those countries that can line up with Russia in some way. what is the answer?
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Bad SD and ES but good group...

I only reload for to calibers . . . .308 and 6.5 PRC. My SD's run between 4 to 7.5, the higher number typically do to a higher number of shots, like 20 or more. When fire forming some new .308 Alpha brass, using my best load that I've been using, got an SD of 6.2 from 80 shots.

On another occasion, I got some Remington 9 1/2 primers to try for the first time and using a power I hadn't used in a long time and it produce an SD of 20.4 with 45 rounds fired. :eek: :rolleyes: What the H . . .??? Going to my favorite load but with these 9 1/2's and managed an SD of 14.2 with just 10 shots. A month later, I tried another load with a good powder and 40 shots got me an SD 14.4. What's left if this brick of 9 1/2's is ready to given away as I can't get them to do well. All my other various primers have worked well with those loads giving me single digit SD's . . . including Remington 7 1/2's. Apparently, this batch of 9 1/2's are just not consistent as the other primers I have.

Because my reloading process has consistently given me low to mid single digit SD's over the years, I've got a lot of confidence in my reloading procedure:

Deprime
Anneal
Wet tumble (no pins) or remove outer oxidation from annealing with steel wool for small jobs
Clean primer pockets
FL Size, no expander ball, using 4-5 seconds dwell time
Dry Tumble with rice media
Expand necks to neck tension with mandrel
3-way trim to length (Giraud).
Prime to consistent seating depth
Charge with very consistent powder weights (using FX-120i)
Seat bullets to very consistent seating depth.

But. . . there's other things I do that's not part of the regular process:
* Uniform primer pockets
* Debur flash holes
* Turn necks
* Sort primers by weight
* Sort bullets by BTO (where comparator touches same place as the seating pin)
* Weigh batch of brass and cull out the outliers

All of this helps with SD's and most importantly what I get on targets. Is all of this necessary for a hunting gun? NOPE! How about a basic off the shelf factory gun? NOPE! But I find it all can help a decent factory gun or one that's been given a good barrel. But not everyone has the time to do a lot of this like I do nor likes taking the time to do it. ;)