Rob01 said:

Doesn’t matter? No one shoots anywhere near there anymore anyways lol

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Simonsza1 said:

17 hornet, one of the best calibers out there with factory ammo also!

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The D said:

Would rather be DP’d by Predator and Alien than have to even make out with Whoopi Cushion

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supercorndogs said:

So right in the range I said....

And a 223 can shoot any .224 caliber bullet the other two can. This is bolt action rifles. We aren't constrained to 2.25 mag length.

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Rthur said:

I'd say he's more of a catcher than pitcher.

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vh20 said:

I have only responded to you in the same tone you have to me. I asked Garmin to add a much-needed feature and you felt the need to step in and say it isn't needed. I figured you were one who based your performance off of 5-shot strings. Now you have confirmed it and that makes sense - you haven't learned the reality of it yet.

I'm not "picking a fight", you called me out and I responded. I'm not calling you names, but you are to me. Your "workaround" is cumbersome and pointless when the company could easily provide the solution within the unit itself. I am not surprised by the rest of your response, because it is exactly what I expected it to devolve in to from your first response. You do not like people speaking to you in the same tone you do to them. Virtually everything I've said to you is just a mirror image of your response to me (minus the name-calling).

And again, I find it strange why anyone would fight against the idea of adding a useful feature to the unit that must be well within its capabilities.

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King_beardsly said:

Thought it was 3200 with a 10% fluctuation for equipment variable

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jLorenzo said:

Sweet. Where did you get the Manners or is that one they still make for a Tikka?

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jpjulian said:

I would think if you are shooting a 'target game' vs an 'action game' you would want MOA because of the known distance ranges, ie: 200, 300, 600, 800, 900, 1,000 yards typically shot in known distance target matches. You just don't see MIL scopes in those games. PRS and other action or unknown distance situations would be where MOA may be at a disadvantage and MIL preferred. Although I don't compete any longer, and never in PRS or NRL, my most recent rifles have MIL scopes, just because.

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HKSniper11B said:

Again, it isn't just about the bullet weight, but the bullet length as well that matters.

Plenty of folks ran the M40, M40A1, M40A3 and M40A5 out past 1000 yards just fine, which has a 1:12 twist barrel, and ran M118LR rounds, essentially Federal GMM SMK 175gr. I did reach out to a sniper instructor peer who has combat experience with the M40 rifles, who confirmed the distance and capability for me.

We also have @FUNCTIONAL with very direct experience running the M40. Sorry to call you out but it's important. Hell I want to share more of that shot data just as a solid reference...

There's no reason why the 1:12 Lothar Walther barrels aren't extremely capable. But, the right round needs to be chosen for it.

And so this circles right back to why I made my original post sharing the shot group: the Sierra 168gr TMK round with it's improved 9° boat tail seems to work best in this barrel, which I've so far tested in 20", and I have no doubt will perform equally well in my 24". My next range day I hope to get 300 round shot groups, and later, 700 round shot groups depending on wind.

I'll share all the images and data I have on this round. For us Yankees, the Federal GMM SMK 168gr & 175gr, and the Federal LE T308T 168gr, seem to be the most effective and cost conscious round to use in these barrels.

I don't have experience with Lapua or Berger rounds in these calibers, so I leave it to others to comment on what else shoots well. I invite it as this data is important for folks like us to have.

And yes, I read every single post in this forum regarding the Arctic Warfare and AT308 looking for ballistic data of factory rounds, and found excruciatingly little.

I hope the attached data helps for context. And I have much more data that shows how the length of Hornady rounds do not stabilize. I also tried the stability factor with a Berger 185gr round without success, but I'd entertain actually shooting it to see how it performs.

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