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From my 18" KAC LPR Mod 2 between 08/2020 to 05/2025

18" KAC LPR Mod 2
BulletRoundsGroupsAvg MOAPowders
Sierra 77gr SMK
552​
109​
0.93​
AA2250, Shooters World Precision Rifle, H322
Nosler 77gr HPBT CC
188​
41​
1.095​
AA2230-C, CFE223, H322
Hornady 73gr ELDM
116​
21​
1.216​
AA2230-C, H322, AA2520
Hornady 68gr BTHP
50​
9​
1.207​
Shooters World Precision Rifle, H322
Hornady 55gr VMAX
10​
1​
0.86​
H322
Hornady 55gr FMJ
5​
1​
0.86​
AA2460
Factory Seconds 55gr BTHP
5​
1​
0.86​
AA2460
IMI 55gr FMJ M193
15​
2​
2.725​
Factory
Wolf Steel 55gr FMJ
3​
1​
0.75​
Factory
Federal 55gr FMJ
10​
1​
2.43​
Factory
Federal 50gr JHP
10​
1​
1.88​
Factory
Hornady 50gr VMAX
10​
1​
1.27​
H322
Hornady 40gr VMAX
10​
1​
0.85​
H322
984​
190​
1.038​


If anybody has any specific questions about any projectiles or powder combos, I'd be happy to share my experiences with it and some groups.
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Reloading Equipment WTS: Chargemaster w/A419 cup, Ohaus and RCBS Powder measures.

RCBS Chargemaster 98923
Like new Chargemaster in the original box with instruction manual. Has all the parts and includes a small straw outlet (brass) AND an Area 419 tray and cup. Powder cylinder still has the factory wrap on it.
$325 shipped to lower 48

Ohaus DU-O-Measure powder measure
Good condition Ohaus thrower. Will throw large (rifle) and pistol(small) charges by just rotating the drum. Includes a set of instructions from the internet.
$80 shipped to lower 48

RCBS Uniflow. Not sure what version. Includes both large and small drums and parts to throw rifle and pistol load. All parts in the photo only. Nothing missing that I am aware of. Instructions available from RCBS website.
$80 shipped to lower 48.

RCBS Little Dandy Powder Measure w/ No 13 rotor (new).
$40 Shipped to lower 48.

Only what is shown in the photos are included.
PPFF is the only EPayment or USPS MO.
NO Trades needed.
PM me if you are interested. I will not contact you from a post.

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Active Shooter at Fort Stewart

Crazy thing is the people at the top, and E7 down, are all on board with common sense. It's the bottom officer ranks that act like middle management and do absolutely nothing productive unless it's covering their ass.
You say that but I have met my share of retards that are enlisted and officers. Being a moron and/or risk adverse is not just an officer thing.

The ones that could authorize CC are not bottom ranks, they are your COL and above levels that have political aspirations. Just my opinion aka .02
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Official (DTA) SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I wouldn't recommend pulling the sear. Its is a little more complicated than some would be comfortable with. Also, it isn't very hard to damage the receiver getting the pins out and back in.
Yes agree...
The pins are a VERY tight fit and you need to make a "pilot" pin to extract the main. You also need to make a guide to re insert the pin so you do not damage the receiver on re install of the pins. The domed head on the pins allows a normal pin punch to "slip" and damage the receiver.

Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

I’m not a vet, still no need to ask me to thank you every 5 seconds. The real high speed operators and team guys never said shit to anyone about it and the one who talked about it the most was a supply sergeant, weird shit. Don’t recall anyone telling me how they protected me thankfully. I do go out of my way to say stuff to Vietnam Vets since they got treated so shitty coming home.

Obviously you volunteer to go to war I appreciate it, but no need to remind me to try and get more discounts on already low prices constantly. I know one guy with a FFL that requires you to be active duty for a discount and he’s a vet. Always an awkward moment when guys hear “active duty only” and it’s only something like 3%. He also grills them about their MOS and where they deployed It’s hard to watch when I’ve stopped in.

The best way to get discounts is be cool when you show up, spend money, and don’t ask for shit theyll remember you.

Edit: I do love hearing the stories of retarded shit, and fuck fuck games from vets though. Tell me all the stupid funny stories
I don't give discounts, for any group,
and in my business, if you want something and say I'll take it, you bought it at list price,
once we get paperwork going, negotiations and discount don't happen,


kinda related, I'm set up at a gunshow in NOVA, busy day, selling well,

get a guy, says he wants to buy a firearm,
has mil ID, and PCS paperwork

paperwork is 3 yrs out of date,
so I ask for a recent set,
he gives me grief about that, but I calmly tell him (he was in the Army IIRC, and an officer, don't recall rank,)

tell him he has a choice, provide paperwork or move on,
so he gets on the phone with his wife, talks to her like an ass, embarrassingly so,

after maybe 30 minutes she sends him a pic of the paperwork,,, same as when he already had

another phone call and more berating over the phone, and he gets his current Orders,,

to DC,
I am a FFL,, in VA, at that time there were no gunshops to do transfers in DC,
so he proceeds to rant at me about how he had PCS papers in DC but worked in VA,

sorry, says I,

then he called me anti Vet,,

my helper, who is a VET, with some disability on paperwork, was about to go apeshit on this guy , but luckily , for the dude, looked at me first and I told the dude that as a non veteran, who owned a company started by my father,, a Vet, and employing Vets, and have a brother from another mother that is(at that time) employed by USAR as a civilian and a Vet, that accusation did not really fly,


he shut up and left,

came back an hour later, and said his buddy wanted to buy that gun now,, (buddy had proper paperwork)
he got a quick lesson on what a straw purchase was and asked if I needed to reach out to the ATF, the VSP or his commanding officer.

he stfu and left



and before anyone says I could have used his DL to sell him a rifle, nope, he stated he lived here in VA, and his PCS was expired, so that would not fly,

New Contest Starting Now! This Target Haunts Me

My brother inlaw and I were elk hunting and we had seen a small rag horn and had passed. We then were hiking through the trees and happen to see two 6x6 bulls walking down a trail. We both laid down on either side of a tree and sighted in on them.
I fired first and my brother inlaw second. Neither of us hit. I looked down at my scope and the top turret had gotten turned when I pulled it out of the scabbard off of my horse.
I will never forget to check my turrets again and I also will not hunt with any scope that doesn't have a locking turret or capped turret ever again either.

Recommended Optic for Monitoring Wind and Mirage

Gunny,

Neither did I. But the the Guide to Spotting scopes for Birding was oddly very helpful. Birds and Bullet holes have much in common, since they both start with the letter B.....

In any event they say 14mm is the minimum for eye relief for glasses wearers and the ones they listed in their article and the one's I listed are all 18mm (.070") or better.

Perhaps somebody will chime in and bail us out, as we stumble about in blissful ignorance in the dark...

Good Luck.

Elk Hunting Rifles, What are you Using?

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Winchester Pre-64 FW shipped from the factory in 1954

Caliber: 300 Holland and Holland Magnum

Barrel: Winchester Featherweight OEM 26”

Action: OEM

Bottom Metal: OEM

Trigger: OEM

Stock: OEM Walnut with some internal tweaks.

Optic: Leupold Mk5 HD 3.8-18

Ammo: Handloaded (because factory loads aren't a thing) Barnes TTSX 180gr MV 2995 fps



With this load, it shoots like a custom $5k rifle. Nicknamed it Bug Spray. . . . . . . It kills on contact.

Whenever you're ready to upgrade that old thing, I know a guy who does great work... :ROFLMAO:

Elk Hunting Rifles, What are you Using?

Wolves killing healthy elk and for sport Well shit. I had it on good authority from the Disney Channel that all nature works in harrr moe kneeeee. 🤣🤣🤣

I will use my 21" 280 or 16" 6 arc ar15 depending on where I am. I worked up a load for 175 eldx for my 280. I have been using 162 blems I beleive are SST. I shoot 100g Speers soft points in my 6 arc.

I don't ever kill anything anymore. It's too much work. 🤣🤣🤣

I added 15oz switching from my 2-10 razor lh, to a weaver 2-10x32 tactical, then lost some going to a 3-15 lht. See if I can deal with SFP.🤢🤮🤮
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Active Shooter at Fort Stewart

Wait till you got caught by an inspection at the gate. More than a few people had their careers ruined thanks to Clinton disarming Soldiers.

Well... I didn't. ;)

I've had the random check before. Never did anyone ever get wanded. Run the dog through my truck all you want, gun is on ne.

I share your frustration. I just ignore the B.S.

Active Shooter at Fort Stewart

^ I've been retired 7 years, and we (multiple senior SNCOs) carried on base regularly when I was in.

We just didn't tell anyone about it. ;)

Would be nice to have it legal though.
Wait till you got caught by an inspection at the gate. More than a few people had their careers ruined thanks to Clinton disarming Soldiers.

In 2016 a rule DoDD made a directive that local commanders could authorize concealed carry. With the emphasis not placed on individual responsibility in our current society, commanders erred on the side of safety for their careers. How soon before we see another FT Hood, Naval Ship yard, Recruiting Station or FT Stewart shooting again, Soldiers were made soft targets by Clinton and kept that way thanks to the weak sauce. Just my .02 aka opinion