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Regarding PBB's barrels, I can say that I know several people running their barrel blanks chambered by a local guy and they are stellar. A lot of PRS regional matches have been won by them, and no one's sponsored by them. My .223 barrel cut from a PBB was incredibly accurate and consistent. I'm getting my next barrel cut from one of their blanks as soon as it arrives at the smith.

As to prefits... I don't trust anyone's prefits. I've known too many people who've had out of center chambers, dasher chambers finished by a BR finished reamer, conservative loaded bartleins cut on a CNC crapping out at ~900 rounds, etc., and these are coming from reputable smiths, and from Proof Research itself. I'm sticking with traditional lathe cut chambers from a smith who'll stand by his work.

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BytorJr said:

Names, we need the names of these organizations. Charge the CEO and all board members of every single one of them as an honest to God spy/traitor for allowing what is effectively in many cases, the actual enemy of The State (CHICOM army, Terrorists sponsored by a state, etc). The, go after the people subordinates as well who were KNOWINGLY breaking the law.

Furthermore, there should be $0.00 going to ANY NGO...zero, zilch.

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beetroot said:

Struggling to see how the numbers add up here? What magic have you used to get the rifle that heavy without weights, or a long/heavy barrel yet be balanced like that.

Is the stock reasonably heavy just without too much weight in the rear?
Or are the a bunch of internal forend weights?

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Its not without weights , the arca is steel , stock is built with front heavy fill and there are weights under the barrel like i said there are just no weights on the m-locks ,you can also see a weight on the front of the arca its the smallest one i made at 650g/23oz but even heavier ones can be used without impeding the function of the arca at any point , as its designed for bolt on accessories.

Weighed my Anschutz forend bits
Steel Arca & m-lock rails - 850g / 30oz
Internal under barrel weight 1150g/ 40,5oz - space left for further 150-200g
Front Weight 615g/ 21.7oz



Point i was trying to make is that the front balance was achieved with some reserves to spare even on a skinny barrel so i am confident i can achieve similar on stock CZ MTR barrel.. Of course fat barrels are preferred way to front balance.

Remember for us folks over the pond in 'Eurostans' barrel changes are less trivial(permits ,gunsmiths) and more expensive so enabling a balancing of stock barrels or typical prefits that are nowhere close to L3i barrel diameter was a factor.


Stock MTR barrel as you can see there is ample space for weights under the barrel .

Space under the barel fits a roughly 1kg/35oz steel or 1.3 kg/46oz lead weights , plus 600+g/21oz weight in front of the stock

How does it do with very small extruded powders like AR comp, N120, or N133?

I figured Paul's delay in getting the ingenuity system to the market might let a competitor slide in, and these test videos look promising. If this system ends up offering similar performance at a much lower price point they'll sell a ton of them... Provided the release date doesn't keep sliding to the right after multiple delays (cough, cough.)

Disciple said:

What it light? Do you know the weight with the bottom metal installed? Thanks Rick

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XLR308 said:

I lube the necks on new brass due to it being so clean.
After there is a bit of carbon in the necks I don't bother.
I also don't clean my brass squeaky clean, one cycle in tuff nut and done.

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This….after the first firing, if you don’t wet clean, the carbon inside the neck is enough lube. I brush the necks though every time to take some of the crud off.

How much are you asking? Are they vudoo chambered

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What it light? Do you know the weight with the bottom metal installed? Thanks Rick

High gloss naked CF.