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Win an RIX Storm S3 Thermal Imaging Scope!
- By AMG04
- The Bear Pit
- 681 Replies
Reviewing the basics prior to going hot...
...and another shooter hooked
...and another shooter hooked
Is it possible to become a really skilled long range shooter with a semi-auto?
- By LRRPF52
- Semi-Automatic Rifles
- 72 Replies
The first time I got true quality shoot time was in my first Recon Platoon.
There were only 18 of us at full-strength in the MTO&E, and we didn’t have a PL, plus a bunch of guys were at Sniper School, Ranger School, Pathfinder, BNCOC, etc. So there were really only maybe 12 of us at the most at the range. No Battalion or Company people even on the post we were at, so we were allowed to drive our own BRM, zero ranges, and qual on our time. It was amazing.
I was a gun guy since I could walk and “already knew how to shoot”, but I still bit my tongue when one of our more seasoned Snipers coached me through zeroing and qual. He had very good feedback to give to me, which fine-tuned my fundamentals and was a great experience. It was the first time in the Army I truly got one-on-one mentorship in marksmanship without the rush of a company-sized abortion, with idiots yelling and screaming all over, ruining the experience.
From that moment-on, any time I went to a range, I was basically like the guy from office space whose therapist died in the middle of his hypnosis and left him in a state of permanent zen.
99.9% of Infantry soldiers never get that experience. It’s nothing but yelling, dudes with engineer tape wrapped around their helmets smashing cleaning rods into your bolt face to rod you on the range, more senior NCOs yelling on the loudspeaker, “RANGE WALK, RANGE WALK!!!!” Privates hustling to get in line and wait to draw their handful of ammo from the ammo shack, range-walk to their shooting position, SP4 Mafia murmuring about the BS, E-5s yelling and screaming.
I would just speed-walk but ignore basically everything I was hearing, and go out of my way to get back in line to qualify over and over again when I ended up back in the line at different stages of my time in the Army.
But in Recon Platoons and LRSC, we didn’t play the silly games. We focused on...you know, marksmanship. We got a lot more ammo and pyro too.
I would shoot on weekends a lot though, with my 11.5” ARs, and later my M4forgeries in the 1990s-early 2000s. Then I got into 3-Gun. Formal, structured private shoot training and competition was a lot better than what we did in the Army.
There were only 18 of us at full-strength in the MTO&E, and we didn’t have a PL, plus a bunch of guys were at Sniper School, Ranger School, Pathfinder, BNCOC, etc. So there were really only maybe 12 of us at the most at the range. No Battalion or Company people even on the post we were at, so we were allowed to drive our own BRM, zero ranges, and qual on our time. It was amazing.
I was a gun guy since I could walk and “already knew how to shoot”, but I still bit my tongue when one of our more seasoned Snipers coached me through zeroing and qual. He had very good feedback to give to me, which fine-tuned my fundamentals and was a great experience. It was the first time in the Army I truly got one-on-one mentorship in marksmanship without the rush of a company-sized abortion, with idiots yelling and screaming all over, ruining the experience.
From that moment-on, any time I went to a range, I was basically like the guy from office space whose therapist died in the middle of his hypnosis and left him in a state of permanent zen.
99.9% of Infantry soldiers never get that experience. It’s nothing but yelling, dudes with engineer tape wrapped around their helmets smashing cleaning rods into your bolt face to rod you on the range, more senior NCOs yelling on the loudspeaker, “RANGE WALK, RANGE WALK!!!!” Privates hustling to get in line and wait to draw their handful of ammo from the ammo shack, range-walk to their shooting position, SP4 Mafia murmuring about the BS, E-5s yelling and screaming.
I would just speed-walk but ignore basically everything I was hearing, and go out of my way to get back in line to qualify over and over again when I ended up back in the line at different stages of my time in the Army.
But in Recon Platoons and LRSC, we didn’t play the silly games. We focused on...you know, marksmanship. We got a lot more ammo and pyro too.
I would shoot on weekends a lot though, with my 11.5” ARs, and later my M4forgeries in the 1990s-early 2000s. Then I got into 3-Gun. Formal, structured private shoot training and competition was a lot better than what we did in the Army.
Can't get scope to zero low enough with 20MOA rail
- Observation & Sighting Devices
- 16 Replies
There is so much confusion in this thread.
First, OP says the scope is "Leupold MK4HD 4.5-18x52 MOA #183624." That last number - the part number - shows on the Leupold website as having mils turrets:
So which is it? MOA or mils?
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Then, in post 10, OP says "So looking at the scope's specs on the Leupold website, it states this model has 1 MOA clicks, with 40 MOA adjustment in each direction..."
No. Those figures are for the reticle subtensions - NOT adjustment - IF this is an MOA scope (clarify part number). From the web site:
This means (to me; I've never owned a Leupold scope but I've used several zero stop mechanisms) ya gotta work with the zero stop mechanism. From the manual:
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I hope this is useful. I grew up in the era of simplex reticles in capped turrets on a one-inch tube and 12x magnification was a lot. Modern scopes have so much more capability, but they can trip up newbies.
Good luck OP.
First, OP says the scope is "Leupold MK4HD 4.5-18x52 MOA #183624." That last number - the part number - shows on the Leupold website as having mils turrets:
So which is it? MOA or mils?
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Then, in post 10, OP says "So looking at the scope's specs on the Leupold website, it states this model has 1 MOA clicks, with 40 MOA adjustment in each direction..."
No. Those figures are for the reticle subtensions - NOT adjustment - IF this is an MOA scope (clarify part number). From the web site:
- 1 MOA increments
- 40 MOA of measurement in each direction (You use the reticle subtensions like a ruler; one does NOT use linear measurements in this game, one uses angular measurement).
This means (to me; I've never owned a Leupold scope but I've used several zero stop mechanisms) ya gotta work with the zero stop mechanism. From the manual:
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I hope this is useful. I grew up in the era of simplex reticles in capped turrets on a one-inch tube and 12x magnification was a lot. Modern scopes have so much more capability, but they can trip up newbies.
Good luck OP.
Anyone here using the Hornady A tip bullets? (.308)
- By Rob01
- Bolt Action Rifles
- 23 Replies
And that's where I'm at... I'm not in shooting competitions, just getting into long range and just for my own kicks... so are they worth it is what I'm trying to determine. if I want to try some of these for hand loads or the 169gr SMK... neither being offered so far as I know as a factory loading.
So far I have found 3 factory loadings that I can reasonable get and stock up on slowly like a box a week over time locally. FGMM 168gr, 175 and Hornady 168gr ELD. I was hoping to find the 178gr but haven't seen them anywhere and until I see which projectile/load it likes I don't want to order online and pay the shipping for 1 box. The goal is to then take whichever has the best mean radius per 20 rounds and buy 200 or so projectiles of that, and two different powders and see which powder with that bullet gives the best mean radius per 20 shots, and THEN then I have my load....So maybe by the end of summer I'll have all the componets figured out
How far you plan on shooting them? Reason I ask is the 168 SMK in the FGMM is a crap bullet for long range. Crap BC and doesn’t go transonic well. The 175 SMK is better and will do better at longer ranges but the 168 ELD is excellent. Higher BC than both and does fine through transonic. I have shot them to 1250 yards in matches with factory ammo and then I loaded them up with Varget. All depends on how far you plan to shoot. If only out to maybe 600 than any of them will work.
Also I wouldn’t use factory ammo to gauge a bullet performance as that ammo may not be good in your rifle but if you loaded that bullet then it may shoot great. You can use it as a possible idea but don’t make it the deciding factor.
Anyone here using the Hornady A tip bullets? (.308)
- By Rob01
- Bolt Action Rifles
- 23 Replies
It’s about the same to lands in mine at 2.905” and I load at 2.860. No issues at all in actual use and very accurate. Sometimes those perceived issues aren’t really issues.
Loading .280 Remington to Full Potential
- Reloading Depot
- 18 Replies
10 shots 51.5g of 4000mr 175 eld.
