Yesterday my 3.32 versioned Garmin captured 48 of 49 my 6BR shots from a bench; avg speed 2870.

Use what you have. I have loaded some on my Dillion 550s and others on one of my single stage presses. For me it is easier on a turret single stage press, but both work well.

Since I want to fire form some cases that I can measure their case volume, I’ve annealed, sized, prepped and loaded up 10 cases that I’ll also measure velocity to get some idea for velocity with a load of IMR-4064 that I’ve used before. Primers that were removed were reseated to the same depth as before (.004 blow flush).


The rest of the cases were put through my annealing process as well (flame annealing to a red glow) then expanded the necks with a .305” expander mandrel. Once all the cases are fire formed, I’ll then turn the necks to .014” thick.


To make sure all the powder is out of the cases and take care of the oxidation layer after annealing, I wet tumbled them with SS pins (25 min).


Took the clean cases and FL sized them all, dry tumbled to remove lube and trimmed to length. Here the finished product:


BTW: While sizing the cases, there was one case of the batch that had a funny sound when removing it from the sizing die. That sound and the way it felt alerted me that something wasn't right. I measured the case OAL and it was way long, like .032" longer that is should be. Measuring its headspace had the same issue. Apparently the steel head fitting to the brass has pulled out as there was much more space between the steel head and the brass body on the outside surface. So, it's not a case I'm going to try to use in any way.

Had and interesting time today in my reloading room after receiving my order of 100 6.8x51 Hybrid cases.


First thing, I took measurements to see what I'm dealing with as I prepare to size them into a .308 case. Other than having to expand the neck, it was interesting to see the OD difference just below the shoulder-body junction was at .458 as opposed to a .308 at ~ .452". Down at the web, the OD I measured .4675". . . slightly less that some virgin .308 cases of .468". Case headspace what pretty much the same as .308 case, at least until they were sized where I had to adjust my .308 FL sizing die down to get where I needed to be. Neck wall thickness was at .015 + a little more for some of them.

Most of the cases had evidence of being annealed, but some did not. And those that did were pretty clean inside where the others still had a little bit powder in them with some clinging to the inside case wall.


Here's what that powder looks like:


Since these cases come already primed, I removed the primes, measured the depth of the primers pockets as well at the height of these primers. Primer pockets were .128 deep and these primers were ~.1235 tall. Primers in the cases were seated very consistently at .004 below flush.


to be continued. . .

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That couldn't be more Detroit if they tried

If you're hunting from a SAFE position and don't mind losing a lot of ones that you hit (poorly) on the run...then the 5.56 will suffice.

Most of those places don't want hunters sticking 20 animals with bullets...kind of reduces the chances of charging more hunters down the road.

I've killed pigs that were as tall and long as bucks with a 5.56, it all depends on where you hit them. And when you can't guarantee exactly where that next shot is going it has fallen way behind other cartridges. My safety also depends on killing them and not having a wounded and pissed off pig turning on me in the dark. Therefore I never recommend the 5.56 for solo hunters at night.

Nope. You have free will. Make good choices or bad. Part of being a man.

For my Bolt gun I just got 400 pieces of Lapua Brass.

I plan to try my CAT ODB on the one I am building.

I am picking up a Theorem L from my dealer tomorrow.

I use the 5.11 42” double rifle case or the Savior Urban Warfare bag

Chuck Mawhinney.

Did a lot of bad ass stuff.
Didn't say shit about anything to anybody.

Decades after his Vietnam service, other dudes found his name in the records and hunted him down.
He didn't want anything to do with them dragging him into public view.
They persisted and pretty much forced him into somewhat of a spotlight that he did not seek.

He quietly assisted with training around a few places and allowed them to use his name for some service member fundraisers.

He passed away last year still trying to be quiet and enjoy his home in Oregon.

He and others like him are the ones to look up to.

ETA: My hat is off to every cook, janitor, clerk, truck driver, etc. that served. It takes a hundred of them doing their thing to get each tier one dude ready and to the fight.

While they may not be getting shot at, I still appreciate them. Team effort.

any material written anywhere on this York deal. the story was hard to believe. but,by the time we got into it most of the best class German troops and officers were dead and more likely to be discouraged,ready to give up and not wanting to die for a lost cause. my take on it anyway. maybe couldn't have been done in 1916?

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I have found various SK/Lapua ammo here…


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LRRPF52 said:

So the natural response that should have happened already with ammo is more US-based production and manufacturing opportunities for US employees.

The only reason US customers buy foreign-made ammo is because they’ve been under-cutting us on costs, using cheaper labor in Eastern Europe, Mexico, and South Korea.

Combined with anti-gun traitors who also happen to be on Russian and Chicom bribery payroll over the past several generations, there has been a concerted effort to suppress US ammunition-manufacturing capacity.

Look at Council for a Livable World and all the US politicians they have helped get elected illegally with foreign influence. Every one of them reads like a who’s-who of anti-gun, anti-2A legislators.

This whole things is so much bigger than trade. The ammunition industry is a microcosm of a lot of it.

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would be interested in your take on the rifle scope world. i don't mean holographics,red dots etc don't use them. seems to me that that industry is a quite fragmented area of the trade issue.

For a second I thought you took pics of your rifle at a baseball game but on further inspection I'm guessing it's a skeet/trap field? . Talon grip tape?

EODsniper said:

What were the results you were getting with the 75 eldms? The price seems too good to be true on those. My biggest challenge is finding a bullet to go with before buying in bulk. Everything will be over varget since I have a very large amount of that and it already shoots great in my 6arc. So far I’ve narrowed it down to
75gr Berger vld
75gr Hornady eldm
77gr Sierra matchkings
77gr Hornady aeromatch
80gr Sierra matchkings

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I’ve been able to get .5” groups if do my part with the ELD-M’s but most have been like .7” or smaller. I haven’t really worked up a load since I just hit 150ish rounds down the barrel, so I’m thinking it’ll shirk a bit more once I get them dialed in better.

Ronin22 said:

I appreciate your background knowledge on who is suspected of this level of dupery. Possibly they had a beef with Frank? I don’t know.

I’ll just preface I know Frank is watching this thread, so I know he’s in the room.

I’ll be perfectly clear here. I’ve owned Bartlein barrels. They shot great! But that was years before I knew of abrasives in bore cleaning. I’m not attacking Frank or his company on the performance & quality of his barrels. I would expect to be drawn & quartered if I was just saying “Barlein Sucks” so totally different conversation/debate we’re having here.

But to put it frankly, Frank as an individual, separate from his barrel company, because we’re not discussing barrels here, isn’t giving this a fair & unbiased shake. It’s abundantly evident. So nobody, including Frank, wants their product reputation shit on. However, in lack of substantial evidence, Frank is totally fine ratfucking these abrasive cleaner companies & their products. Even when presented with a case where there’s no damage. If that’s not bias I don’t know what is!

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Bias is what I just saw in your reply. Cool do you love the stuff, Great, your toys, your process. Frank passes on his experience with abrasive cleaners and if you and your crack lickers read what he said it was far more than just a couple of moss covered jerks. You have your evidence that it is harmless but effective, wonderful. He is also free to pass judgement on the use of metal brushes and abrasive cleaners. He has as much, actually a much broader set, of experiences and example than you. We are free to do with our toys as we see fit and discuss it. You seem determined to gain approval for you product or kill every dissenting voice, well, stick it and twirl.

Rookie said:

Tell me the John Chapman story is real, right?

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Well with how hard the navy fought to stop him getting the MOH, yes the story is probably correct.

What's the real scoop on York?

I have read a ton of books about MOH winners. Love that genre of books. It's a hard thing to swallow finding out its mostly BS. Seen Lone Survivor and American Sniper about a thousand times. I guess I bought into it all. Tell me the John Chapman story is real, right?