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Our Judiciary has been corrupted from top to bottom and back again. Once the Judiciary is fully corrupt, that country will soon fail.

Seems like every one of Trump's really big pushes has been stopped by COMMUNIST judges who have no litmus test on whether or not it is Constitutional and just whether or not it hurts their or somewhat else's feelings.
Time to make gallows great again

PortaJohn


I fucking called it again. Yo glowfaggots, It's really fucking obvious that you're still running fast and furious and we all know you're behind the mass shootings and terror attacks too.

Strasser RS 700: straight pull Remage-style barrel nut that uses R700 accessories (stocks, triggers)

A good friend was planning on getting into PRS but also had a thing for straight pull rifles and wanted to try one. We said the only one I would try is the Strasser S700. We ordered a Barrelled action with the 26" 6.5CM option. Our friend wanted to use a PSE E-Tac carbon stock as he is using one on his remington anyway. We fitted and bedded the Strasser to a new stock. Also 20MOA Strasser rail and an Atlasworx AICS mag system. Fitted the 3-27x56 PMII. Guss our local PRS guy dropped by and helped with zero and ammo testing. The worst group we short was 14mm with Sako TRG 136gr, best was 10.2mm with 140gr ELDM. 3 shot groups. 123gr Nosler Custom and 143 ELDX were inbetween. Rifle zeroed with the 140gr ELDM. This was with the first 20 shots.

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A few weeks later the new owner finally got around to go out hunting with me. He had not fired the rifle yet. Of course plan went to pot as we had deer in front of us while driving up the hill to the spot. He settled behind the rifle off the Land Rover hood and seemed happy to take the 382m shot with the dope from my rifle with similar speed. After the Hind dropped the calf came back and was also taken. Deer were bedded in the little yellow patch across the valley.

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Later we did a bit of longer range testing on rocks out to 900m. The high moisture in the air with bad visibility didn't allow for further. Hits were solid until 900m. One very happy friend....

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Current Surgeon vs AI Action

There are internal changes too.

There are guys who post on this site in the AI picture thread with AI failures they don't talk about. I personally know 2 of them. It doesn't get called out but it happens. That's the difference between what you read on the internet and what you see out in the field.

I got blasted a few years ago on here for calling them out so no need to rehash it. People get super defensive when you start to break down their belief structures and no amount of reason, logic and common sense will change that.

A match like mammoth does not put any more wear and tear on a rifle than a PRS match. No one is jumping the guns into the arctic. They aren't chucking their gun down a canyon. Its the environmental that really stress the guns. Rain, Dirt, Snow, Ice. Moisture causing high pressure events resulting in parts failure or a siezed gun. A bunch of dust and dirt getting into the action/trigger causing missfeeds or trigger failures. Then you get into small parts failure. Nothing I have seen says AI makes more reliable/durrable small parts than the other manufactures. In fact, I have seen the opposite. When you pair factory ammo that could be all over the place with these guns, you get another increases variable of failure. Its usualy a combination of things, not just one.

When it comes to a gun, simpler is better and less moving and small parts to break the better IMO. Its why the modern 700 clones with current feature set are so damn reliable when paired with a good trigger and chassis. A broken trigger or firing assembly failure (almost never happens with normal loads even in bad weather) is the most likely failure. Some idiots will also have pressure issues, but that's not the fault of the gun. They load hot and then when the weather changes they run into issues. I 100% mark that as user error no matter the platform.

Factory guns are fleet rifles. When you need a few dozen to a few thousand rifles you buy a factory gun. You buy the maintance kits and spare parts. You train armorers to a basic standard to swap out parts. That is the benefit of something like an AI or MRAD or Cadex.

For an individual, there is virtually no advantage to buying a fleet gun, especially when they end up costing significantly more than a full semi/custom that will perform just as well, give you much more options for fit out and in many cases be easier to shoot. Replacement parts and consumables are also much cheaper for the end user. Go look at what a spare bolt for an AI vs an Impact/terminus/Lone Peak costs. Its twice as much, and good luck getting something like a .223 bolt for training.

Most of the people running AI's at matches and the like are not your high quality shooters. There are a few out there but by large they are the lower rung of shooters. Take a class, and same thing. It’s a prestige thing. People think they are some pinnacle rifle , which may have been the case 20+ years ago. We all heard it over the years. You need an AI, S&B and FGMM 168. LOL. There was a time when the Ford Model T was also the pinnace of automobilies.
Just curious which “rung” of shooter you are? And also your experience shooting and working on all of these rifles.
Sounds like Terry Cross very nicely clarified you had little to no clue about “prefit actions” earlier.
Sounds like someone who either can’t afford an AI or someone who is justifying purchasing whatever setup they have.
My advice just shoot and have fun bud, it’s a lot more fun when you aren’t letting your insecurities get the best of you and being worried about what the next guy spends his money on.

Unconverted saiga 7.62x39 prices

Good point and I will say that from your first post I was afraid you were going to recommend some PSA or Pioneer BS to this guy, so now that I know you know what's up it's a different conversation, ha.

I can't prove in any way the Russians have the best core parts. And honestly any of the reputed com block factories who had the manufacturing down had to be producing quality core parts. So any good import is a safe buy IMO.

I would just have to think that nobody has invested the time, effort and expertise into perfecting the manufacturing of that platform the way the Russians have. And If I could only have one, I know which one I'm picking.

I own sample(s) of all that you listed: Russian, Polish, Hungarian, Egyptian, Romanian, Bulgarian, plus an EG parts kit build. From my unprofessional observation, I would say the Hungarian pre-ban FEG I have and the EG parts in the parts kit come the closest to the Russians as far as the appearance of quality (for what that's worth).

The dude wanted a Russian, I just didn't want him to try to source the parts and do the conversion; brutal to try that right now. And god forbid he buys the USA crap. But yes I agree with you that he can save some money and buy a good import. But, will he wish it was a Saiga?!? Possibly.
Lol, agreed.
No worries brother.

And I also love me some AMD's. They might be my favorite, just don't tell my other imports.
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