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As a kid in the 50's & early 60's you could believe most people & the news, be it

Dude put down the weed - Vietnam , Kennedy, MKUltra , Gulf of Tonkin, Most of what was happening in Korea from 51-53 .
Giving STDs and radiation to black and brown people just because , the scrubbing of all the giant mounds skeletons and coined money from the Smithsonian.

It’s all always been a crock of shit - only difference was we had a high trust society before the boomers came into power and fought harder to keep the cabin by the lake and the boat then they did for their kids during divorce number 3 .
Shut up and get back to work pay that SS tax.
I need the money season 4 of Matlock on DVD 📀

Bartlein Barrels Update

I've been in manufacturing now for 40 years. Gun barrels themselves almost 30.

Here is the issue... it's not as easy as you or some others would think.

We've put more machines online over time... but you have a domino effect... we can say... lets build another rifler and we are actually toying with the idea again.... but you have to look at the whole picture... you have to look back at the whole process.... can the bore reamers and prelapping processes keep up... if you say yes... then you go back further... can the guys in contouring/lathe work keep up... if you say no... your then adding another contouring machine... and a guy to run it.... if you are adding a lathe for contour work... then you have to go back to the gun drilling.... can the gun drills keep up to feed the lathes and the whole process etc...

Actually looking at getting another gun drill as well.

You also have to look at the capital investment... is the work load going to be there a few months or a year from now etc... Yes I don't see it going anywhere.

Right now... it's not actual machine time that is the issue... it's the people time is what we are lacking. We cannot for the most part find quality people to work. One is salary... even if we agree on a starting salary.... right now the only open spots are on 2nd shift. Nobody wants to work 2nd shift. For the most part we don't have a 3rd shift so don't even go there.

At the peak of covid... we ran the shop 24 hours a day... and for several months... 7 days a week. Daytime guys started at 4am.. worked till 4pm and the 2nd shift guys came in at around 3:30pm/4pm time frame and worked till 4am. We alternated crews every other weekend so guys had time off for the weekends primarily on Sundays. Maybe 5 to 7 of us worked one Sunday and then a different group of guys worked the next Sunday. For a span of about 9 months there where 3 to 4 guys that were putting in 35 hours a week of overtime!!!!!

We hired two guys back in Nov and Dec. time frame. I interviewed another guy and we agreed on wages etc.... took about 4 weeks of going back and forth. He knew up front.... he had to start on 2nd shift. I told him there will be weeks where you can come in and work 1st shift but cannot guarantee it all the time. He plenty of experience in drilling and turning and doing finished test barrel work. He was a perfect fit... then his wife said no to 2nd shift... that killed it.

Also we are not just going to hire anyone just to throw people at the problem. That doesn't solve anything.

Later, Frank
I feel your pain, hiring good people is tough. There's a big risk of the quality going down the tubes. I saw in my business, that scaling up was not easy. I was fortunate I had good people and avoided the temptation to grow too big where quality would suffer. I'm glad I retired and now I can pick and choose if I decide to work. Wishing you the best of luck.

Bartlein Barrels Update

At one point at the height of covid... our lead times went out to 14 months. We are at about 8-9 right now. Don't get me wrong... if we can get it done sooner... we're not going to sit on it and make you wait.

We've also been making changes in the shop on how we are handling orders...and we are seeing progress but it's not going to happen in a month or two.

Lead times from the steel mills went from about 5 months to about 14 months during covid. Heck even last year.... I ordered some material in March of 2024... received it on Dec. 4, 2024. Right now I will the mills are at 7 months.

Bartlein Barrels Update

I worked in manufacturing for 35 yrs.

Don't mean to be too critical of Bartlein as they are my preferred barrel, right now, but 10 months waiting for a barrel...no thanks.

In real manufacturing you increase production, put more machines on line, train new people...not just the same few crew members working overtime.
Take command of the market.

In real manufacturing you increase production, put more machines on line, train new people...not just the same few crew members working overtime.
Take command of the market.
I've been in manufacturing now for 40 years. Gun barrels themselves almost 30.

Here is the issue... it's not as easy as you or some others would think.

We've put more machines online over time... but you have a domino effect... we can say... lets build another rifler and we are actually toying with the idea again.... but you have to look at the whole picture... you have to look back at the whole process.... can the bore reamers and prelapping processes keep up... if you say yes... then you go back further... can the guys in contouring/lathe work keep up... if you say no... your then adding another contouring machine... and a guy to run it.... if you are adding a lathe for contour work... then you have to go back to the gun drilling.... can the gun drills keep up to feed the lathes and the whole process etc...

Actually looking at getting another gun drill as well.

You also have to look at the capital investment... is the work load going to be there a few months or a year from now etc... Yes I don't see it going anywhere.

Right now... it's not actual machine time that is the issue... it's the people time is what we are lacking. We cannot for the most part find quality people to work. One is salary... even if we agree on a starting salary.... right now the only open spots are on 2nd shift. Nobody wants to work 2nd shift. For the most part we don't have a 3rd shift so don't even go there.

At the peak of covid... we ran the shop 24 hours a day... and for several months... 7 days a week. Daytime guys started at 4am.. worked till 4pm and the 2nd shift guys came in at around 3:30pm/4pm time frame and worked till 4am. We alternated crews every other weekend so guys had time off for the weekends primarily on Sundays. Maybe 5 to 7 of us worked one Sunday and then a different group of guys worked the next Sunday. For a span of about 9 months there where 3 to 4 guys that were putting in 35 hours a week of overtime!!!!!

We hired two guys back in Nov and Dec. time frame. I interviewed another guy and we agreed on wages etc.... took about 4 weeks of going back and forth. He knew up front.... he had to start on 2nd shift. I told him there will be weeks where you can come in and work 1st shift but cannot guarantee it all the time. He plenty of experience in drilling and turning and doing finished test barrel work. He was a perfect fit... then his wife said no to 2nd shift... that killed it.

Also we are not just going to hire anyone just to throw people at the problem. That doesn't solve anything.

Later, Frank

What's the deal with "Aid to Ukraine?"

And all the while our own borders were left wide open and undefended and thousands of illegal invaders were allowed to pour across every day under Bidens watch....

Does this guy know there's different departments with different jobs in the US government, with entirely different tasks, authorities, budgets and even people working there?

Balancing MPA Matrix rig w/ 18-20" barrel?

You are not the first person to have trouble balancing the Gen I and ending up with a rifle that is too heavy for comfort. Putting weight on the very end of the barrel will let you use the least weight.

The best solution I've seen is to put the rifle on an edge at your balance point, take off the thread protector, and then add weights (big catfishing weights work well) on a string till it balances. Add that up/weigh that, and then find a tuner or a compensator that weighs the same. There are a ton of different weights from the bench rest people (such as https://www.killoughshootingsports.com/benchrest-c12/benchrest-tuners-c30). If it's really bad and you can't find one heavy enough, you may have to cut a length of a larger, shot out barrel and thread it to fit. If you don't have one that has let go someone will probably give you one + shipping, because they're tomato stakes.

I've seen quite a few guys who have done this with a shot out barrel, and I'm not convinced that they often don't increase the precision just like a tuner anyway. YMMV.
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Pope Death Watch... WITH A PRIZE!!! Quart of Maple Syrup to the winner!

For an Interesting dive down a rabit hole....


Prophecy of the Popes (St. Malachy)

Origin: Allegedly written by St. Malachy in 1139, the prophecy is a list of 112 short Latin mottos said to describe each pope from Celestine II (1143) to the final pope.Final Pope: The last motto, associated with the 112th pope, is Petrus Romanus ("Peter the Roman"), described as: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the city of seven hills will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."


"Others speculate about Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican’s Secretary of State since 2013, whose first name is Pietro and who is Italian, making him a literal "Peter the Roman." Parolin, born in 1955, is a prominent figure, created cardinal in 2014, and has been mentioned as a potential successor to Francis, especially amid rumors of Francis’s declining health and a resignation letter he signed in 2013."

If they elect him the next pope.... time might be shorter than a lot expect..

Pizza Mother Fucker

Here’s more of what some of y’all say isn’t real pizza… different place, but also has a real brick oven:

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White wine and garlic sauce, garlic, artichoke hearts, chicken, and plain old mozzarella… Crust is the best around these parts. There are two other places that have better tasting pizzas, and are very close on their crust, but this one is the best.
Man, the oil slick coming off of that pie makes Deepwater Horizon jealous....
I'll bet it was good though !