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Curious to hear yalls opinion on my model 70 in 7mm wsm. It will primarily be used in south Texas hunting whitetail (200-400 yards) but will go on an elk trip once a year as a backup gun incase my primary goes down (.300 win mag). I’m wanting to suppress it but don’t want to be lugging around a full length barrel/supressor. I’m thinking of getting an 18 inch proof carbon barrel. My questions are do you think 18 inch would be too short for its primary role in Texas and which suppressor would be a good one for the barrel length/caliber it’ll be shooting? I have a silencerco co omega 36m but am wanting to buy a second can specifically for this rifle.

Rifle Scopes Alpha Class High Magnification 6-36/7-35 FFP Scope Review

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This is exactly why I frown upon through the scope imagery, you are expecting or hoping that the stars aligned for each scope with everything else being equal (but was everything else equal?). Was everything exactly the same and was there perfect alignment of the camera and lens behind the scope? I can tell you from experience that sometimes everything "looks" right but without calibrated equipment it is more an exercise of "I think this is aligned" but if the system was slightly off for one scope it could really skew results (with both through the scope video and stills). I agree that based on the above images, the atmospherics in the bottom shot labeled ZCO appears to be playing a bigger factor; was it the atmospherics, was it from the camera system being slightly off or was it because the TT out resolves and has better contrast vs ZCO? I couldn't tell you because I wasn't there and I did not witness the scene using both scopes calibrated for my eye which is what really needs to happen - and then lots of back and forth looking and checking off between different categories.

I understand the desire to take through the scope video because most of these are youtube channels and that's what the audience expects, but again, without some very expensive equipment that is designed for perfect alignment behind a rifle scope there are too many factors that could affect the final outcome. The only way to know for certain is to calibrate each scope to your eye (diopter) and look at the same exact scene, same time, same exact magnification (good luck but you can get close) and evaluate each scope watching for minute differences in the image presented to your eye. And even with that it is not perfect, but after over 10 years of doing these types of reviews this is the system I have come up with that affords me the best opportunity to evaluate multiple scopes side by side.

I still like the video and appreciate what Area419 did here, but I would caveat all the through the scope video and images with a cautionary note given the above possibilities for slight error. It would be a shame for a bunch of shooters to either watch the video or look at the above image and make a decision based on this where they think, "wow, the Tangent looks to have so much more pop than the ZCO, I'm going to buy a bunch of Tangents because clearly it's a lot better" when to their own eye the ZCO could be right on par or even exceed the perceived quality of the TT.

All these reviews are great, but it's best to think of them as a starting point and not the end of the conversation... if after reading or watching a number of reviews you have come down to either TT or ZCO then I recommend you get both, set them up for your eyes and take them out in good light and in poor light, both near and far and judge for yourself. All our eyes are different, someone may prefer TT and another may prefer ZCO - there is no right or wrong answer here, it comes down to how each of our eyes interprets the image through the scope. And after deciding, then sell the other scope, doubt you will lose much off of it especially considering the price point of these scopes. But I will also issue another warning... don't just look through a friends scope that was setup for their eye in the middle of the day, you need to adjust and fine tune that diopter to your own eye before doing critical evaluation and make sure you evaluate during low light as well - many scopes look pretty good during daylight, but low light will always separate the "good" from the "amazing".

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To Win a 1000yrd competition you need?

  • SD under 7

    Votes: 7 41.2%
  • $600 digital scale

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • the best of everything.

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • to measure neck thickness of brass

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • a 1300$ scope

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • $4000 rifle

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • measure every component to within .1 grain.

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • perfect eye sight

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • military training

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • a beautiful wife

    Votes: 12 70.6%

when chasing a low SD where is money best spent. Do i need a $600 scale or chronometer? obviously a small SD will not guarantee a tight group, so when competing at 1000yds what should I spend my money on? my scale says it is .1grain, but in reality it is more like .5 to 1 grain. do I buy lapua brass? weigh each bullet and only take the ones that are +/- .01 grain my recent range SD was 9, i have seen posts of 5 or 6, do I need that? is it worth the expense? my goal is to be in the top 1/4 of 1000yrd shooters at the local competition. (i am also old, and this is about my last semi athletic competition because racing my Harley or catamaran is long past).

edit: I am interested in where to spend money on things that will shrink the group.

to be clear i am asking how to make the gun shoot better not the shooter.

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the EU was always a set up for exactly what is happening there. this is the 1st i have heard someone make the obvious thought to abolish it. NATO needs to go too. the free trade thing with Canada and Mexico had me worried that some Soros funded commie,like the Kenyan,would try the same thing here. ie give up US sovereignty and make a "union" with guess who in charge.

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It makes a great quote, but nope.





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Are you denying that there was white slavery in North America?

My grandfather, who is/was Irish, told me as a child about how the Irish were treated when he was a child. "we were a half step ahead of the black man" is what he stated. he also told me about working in the factory as a child and how his own father took the cat o' nine tails to him at said factory. Upstate NY, Oswego to be exact, is where he grew up. The Irish had it pretty bad a century plus ago.
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over my pay grade but something has to be done about these judges. my hope is that Trump ignores them and carries on. "the rule of law" is just not working for the American people,at least those with any brains. there are still the huge #s of deep state players,unhinged libs and the dependents on gov for their big salaries. what to do?

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The wife and I got a sleep divorce during the lockdowns. Best sleep I've had in years. Sleeping over now is optional if you know what I mean.

Mostly it came from her having to get up super early to open her breakfast restaurant. The light coming from under the bathroom door and her inevitably needing ten fucking things out of the dresser while she got dressed kept me up. Ironically, now I'm the one who gets up super early. It sucks when we have visitors and I have to give up my room.

Climate Change

You always have to ask who is paying people to say what they say. Scientists lean way left because they have no common sense, and they get tons of money for doing research that, amazingly, turns out to support leftist pseudo-scientific hoaxes.

Hospitals were paid tens of thousands of dollars for every covid diagnosis, and look at the lies they went on to tell us. It was amazing. I remember downloading the official government diagnostic guidelines they used early in the pandemic. Testing was not even required. It took a long time for tests to be developed and distributed.

Any patient whose symptoms matched part of a list of symptoms commonly associated with the flu and other respiratory infections could be diagnosed with covid, and then the government would send a check. The amount started at about $13,000 per patient, went to $39,000 with a ventilator, and could go higher.

Imagine what went on in doctors' minds. "Hmm. He had a cough, a low fever, a sore throat, and chills. I don't know what it is. If I say it's covid, we get $13,000. If I say it's the flu, we get nothing. Hmm. This is tough. You know, this is really starting to look like covid to me."

Then the flu magically almost entirely DISAPPEARED for several years. What a coincidence that was! It was almost as if the vast majority of flu cases were recorded as covid, but we know that could never happen, because doctors are honest little gods.

Anyone who doesn't think this happened, or who has forgotten, needs to look it up. The flu just WENT AWAY. And we were supposed to believe it.

Now covid is disappearing. Why? They told us we would never get permanent immunity, even with the dangerous shots that killed a lot of people who didn't need vaccinations to begin with. But the figures last year were low, and this year, they're down around 2/3 from that.

In 2020, there were so few flu cases, they were nearly nonexistent. Last year: 40 million. Are we supposed to believe covid cures the flu?

I wonder how many people here knew folks who died from things like car accidents yet were listed as covid deaths. It happened. Guy near me died in a motorcycle accident and got written up as a covid casualty.

All I can say about global warming is that I hope it cancels out global cooling, which must have been afflicting us for the last 45 years. Scientists said it was upon us, so it must have happened. Personally, I did not notice it, but I live in Florida.

As for scientific consensus, the consensus among American scientists was that Kamala Harris would be a great president. This is a fact, and it should wreck anyone's confidence in the judgment of scientists.
we are getting weird stuff here in FL. grass started greening in jan. had to run AC i day in jan, 82 in the house. last nite v.lite frost. no,i know it's not co2. just weirdness with no explanation. kinda is what it is. IF human activity is leading to higher temps,one might take a look at concrete. it is warmer than in the 50s here overall. i suspect the sun has something to do with that. yes,global cooling would be a real population reducer. it is weird getting a climate NWO prog here. there have been 3 (?) rabid pro Uke anti Rus trolls that come and go. i sorta think it's the same dork with 3 accounts. expect that but climate? oh well.

ADG brass charge weight reduction? 7 PRC

Are you saying you got similar MV to Hornady brass using 0.5 grains less powder with ADG brass?
No. I'm saying that's how much difference in case volume I found.

But I did have to make a small adjustment to get back to that MV.

Are you full length sizing the 2 firings to get “fire formed” or just neck sizing?
Yes, just FL sizing.