I run MOA stages out to 1,000yds when 100% prone and heard nothing but bitching and crying from the 2 day series. This weekend I'm running a 2 day intro to long range rifle course and after 12 years of doing a little competition on the end of day 2, 100% of the students want to run it again. All factory rifles and factory ammo. Surprisingly how many hit all the targets with this set up out to 1,000yds. We start at 600yds on the MOA size. The Ruger RPR custom shop in 6mm and running the Hornandy 108gr ELD-M is great combo. Learn to shoot or take a reloading class. One thing I never see. We run a reloading class from A-Z. Looking at the zero boards on day 1 I can see why people bitch, your shot groups at 100yds suck. Don't blame the MD because your load sucks......