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>338 Lapua Magnum
10/08/2014
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Just tried the reloader 33 powder in the 338 . 99.0 gr
Kreiger 9.3 x27
fed 215mag
hornydaddy 285
2789 es of 6 with hornydaddy brass. bolt lifts fine untill the cam over . then it takes a bit of a nudge.
2796 es of 14with Lapua brass . effortless bolt lift .
both loads shot at 80 degrees, and at 400 yards with 12mph wind from 3.
they both kept 1" vert . last 5 shot group was 2.125" All at 400 yards

Greg
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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
10/09/2014

Sako TRG-42 338LM 1:12" twist, so this is for the 250s.

Go-to powders are VV-165, VV-170, H-4831sc and H-1000.

I bought an 8# jug of H-4831sc and have used that a lot.

Pet load is H-4831sc at between 88gr-89gr under 250gr Scenars, LockBase, Berger OTMs and SMKs, for about 2875-2950ish fps depending on Miami temps. It's not a stiff load, but it's not a cream-puff load, either.

For the Berger 250gr pre-production testing, I just split the difference at 88.5gr and played with seating depth, my rifle likes that node that much.

Looking back at my VV-165 loads with the 250s, anything from 84gr-87gr and just about 2800 fps. VV-170 at 93gr in my 27.125" barrel yielded 2825 fps.

For my limited testing with H-1000 and the 250s, 97gr got me 2974 fps, so well on my way to be above hot at 3000 fps.

The rifle is fairly accurate (I'm just a hack) out to the 1000 yds that I've shot at 4-5 times, so most of those combos are close to one another accuracy-wise.

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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
11/16/2014

I must have missed this one or maybe it just got pinned. I'm getting ready to star loading .338 LM for the first time and will be starting with H1000 and hornady 285 bthp, because that's what I have right now.

Based on searches on the old Hide and other googlization, I've got my starting points and maxes set for first try, but am still interested in loads others have had success with.

As you know, loading manuals and other industry sources seem notoriously slow to add load information for newish products. Even Hornady doesn't list good loads for it's own 285s that have been out for years.
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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
11/19/2014 Last edited 12/08/2014 by Diver160651
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338 Lapua MAG 1-9 26”PowderGrainsPrimmerCOALOGIVERIFLE LANDSFPS
TRIM 2.723 COALOGIVE
285gr A-MAX HornadyH100092.5FLR-MAG3.7392.95253.7592.9722950

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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
11/20/2014

Thanks Diver. Just what the doctor ordered. I'll start low and work my way there.

Excellent group BTW! Impressive shooting and rifle.
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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
11/25/2014

Stiller Tac338

22" Shilen Match Select

300gr SMK

92 gr H1000

Lapua Brass

215M Primer

2710 FPS



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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
11/27/2014

Plinking: 250gr Scenar or SMK, 86-88gr IMR 7828 (easy on the brass and bore)
Stout load: 300gr Scenar, 92gr Retumbo
Long Range: 267gr MTAC (single feed), 95gr H-1000 (still working up)
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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
12/03/2014

96 gr RL-33
Lapua Brass
215 GM
300 SMK, .02 off the lands.
32 inch Pac-Nor, 2936 FPS.
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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
12/08/2014 Last edited 12/08/2014 by vinsonr

300gr Scenar

92gr H1000

Lapua Brass

215 primer

base to ogive: 2.95

2820 fps

26" 1:10 DTA SRS



A writeup I did while doing load devel for my 338: 338 Load Devel

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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
12/23/2014 Last edited 09/24/2015 by secondofangle1

DTA SRS DT barrel 26"

lapua brass

fed 215m

92.0 retumbo

2745 with SD 6.0

300 grain Nosler cc

< 0.5 MOA 5 shot groups

ETA I'm getting a slight ejector mark, very faint, so I backed down to 91 grains. My barrel since it was broke in is faster, so 91 grains still gets me 2752 average velocity 5 shots, SD <10 FPS. Next I'm going down to 90 grains, just to be kind to the brass, just in case. To reiterate, this does not appear to be a HOT load, I'm backing down for brass life and an extra safety margin.

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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
12/31/2014

AI AX338 27 inch barrel
Winchestor WLRM primers
94.0 GR of Retumbo
300 gr Berger OTM Hybrids
According to my DOPE, running around 2960fps
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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
01/12/2015

vinsonr wrote:
300gr Scenar

92gr H1000

Lapua Brass

215 primer

base to ogive: 2.95

2820 fps

26" 1:10 DTA SRS



A writeup I did while doing load devel for my 338: 338 Load Devel

What distance was your testing shot at 100 0r 300 yds?​
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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
01/16/2015

epracmetcon wrote: AI AX338 27 inch barrel
Winchestor WLRM primers
94.0 GR of Retumbo
300 gr Berger OTM Hybrids
According to my DOPE, running around 2960fps​
Distance off lands?

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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
01/23/2015

up for overall length info please

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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
02/10/2015 Last edited 02/10/2015 by epracmetcon

reeldoc1 wrote:
epracmetcon wrote: AI AX338 27 inch barrel
Winchestor WLRM primers
94.0 GR of Retumbo
300 gr Berger OTM Hybrids
According to my DOPE, running around 2960fps​
Distance off lands?​
I'll have to measure when I get home. I am loading them to mag length, they are quite a ways off the lands. I would not recommend this load for everyone, it is just a touch over pressured.

EDIT: They are 3.784 COAL.
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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
02/21/2015

Looking for some input and your opinion on the Berger 338 OTM's.

I have H1000 and some 250's to load up. Been using scenars but wanted to give the Berger's a shot.

26". 1:9.4 Krieger. 1500 yards is max range available. My rifle likes bullet jump (.015).

Thanks

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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
03/11/2015

secondofangle1 wrote:
DTA SRS DT barrel 26"

lapua brass

fed 215m

92.0 retumbo

2745 with SD 6.0

300 grain Nosler cc

< 0.5 MOA 5 shot groups

no pressure whatever​
What is your COAL or to the ogive length ?

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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
03/14/2015

I am currently making a MV of 2632 out of my 27" AI AXMC using Berger 300 OTMs and 87.4 grains of H1000. What kind of velocity jump should I expect if I bump it up to 89.5 grains of H1000? I'd like to get a little more out of my transonic range for shooting at a mile by shooting closer to 2700-2800, but started getting harder bolt lift at 90 grains with Hornady brass. Is it likely I could even push it a little further using Lapua brass?

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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
03/15/2015

WolfCobra wrote:
I am currently making a MV of 2632 out of my 27" AI AXMC using Berger 300 OTMs and 87.4 grains of H1000. What kind of velocity jump should I expect if I bump it up to 89.5 grains of H1000? I'd like to get a little more out of my transonic range for shooting at a mile by shooting closer to 2700-2800, but started getting harder bolt lift at 90 grains with Hornady brass. Is it likely I could even push it a little further using Lapua brass?

I am using both Lapua and Norma brass with Berger 300 OTM's.

26" Krieger with 92.0 of H1000 at 2800. My best nodes were between 91.5 and 92.0

I have settled on 91.8 (base to ogive @ 2.956), seated at 2.933 (.023" jump) with no pressure on brass or sticky bolt. Loaded at the absolute maximum magazine length (coal @ 3.788"). MV is 2788 over my V3.​


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Re: >338 Lapua Magnum
03/15/2015 Last edited 04/08/2015 by secondofangle1

cecchino76 wrote:
secondofangle1 wrote:
DTA SRS DT barrel 26"

lapua brass

fed 215m

92.0 retumbo

2745 with SD 6.0

300 grain Nosler cc

< 0.5 MOA 5 shot groups

no pressure whatever​
What is your COAL or to the ogive length ?​
B-ogive 2.971 which is about eleven thou off lands.

ETA I'm getting a slight ejector mark, very faint, so I backed down to 91 grains. My barrel since it was broke in is faster, so 91 grains still gets me 2752 average velocity 5 shots, SD <10 FPS. Next I'm going down to 90 grains, just to be kind to the brass, just in case. To reiterate, this does not appear to be a HOT load, I'm backing down for brass life and an extra safety margin.

Rifle Scopes Help me choose my next optic

I’ve got about 3k adding to my build budget to buy an optic or other accessories once my house sells. I get mil discounts and was thinking the leupold MK5 in either 5-25 or 7-35, NF ATACR 7-35, or the vortex razor gen 3. Anyone who owns all 3 or can give insight would be great as well as other recommendations! Thank you!

Edit: this is for occasional matches and recreational shooting as far as I can with the ranges around me. I’d like to try NRL Hunter someday if that matters
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SOLD SOLD. Sets of ARC M-BRACE Rings

Both sets of rings are sold. Thanks for all the inquiries!

I have two pair of excellent condition ARC M-BRACE 30mm Rings.
I have never used them and have switched to all one piece mounts.
I don't have the original boxes. One pair is extra high and I'm pretty sure the other pair are mediums. I used the tape measure in the picture for you to decide for yourselves.
Looking to get $115 per pair, shipped to the lower 48. Or will ship both pairs for $220. Can't accept Venmo, cash app, Zelle or PayPal FF with no notes.
I'm currently traveling across country but can get them shipped out no later than Saturday by noon.
To avoid scammers, send all questions via PM.
First, I'll take it timestamp in my messages get them and I will mark them sold as soon as I receive payment. Thanks!
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Optics Leupold VX-6HD Gen 2 4-24x52 on sale!

Leupold VX-6HD Gen 2 4-24x52 CDS-SZL2 Side Focus Illum. TMOA Part # 183843 $2,499.99 https://cstactical.com/leupold-vx-6-gen-2-4-24x52-183843/

Whether you're in the field or at the range, you never know what distance an opportunity might present itself. This is where the 4-24x52mm comes in. Having the ability to walk around on 4x and knowing you can quickly go all the way up to 24x gives you the flexibility and ability to hit smaller targets with precision and aim at larger targets across valleys and canyons with confidence.

The VX-6HD Gen 2 4-24x52 is built around our Professional-Grade Optical System, which offers unmatched light transmission and clarity. Wherever you hunt, the Guard-ion lens coating is a stand-out feature on all Leupold hunting riflescopes that sheds water, dirt, and smudging while providing superior glare management and HD resolution throughout the magnification range.

With new competition-grade adjustments the ultra-rugged and versatile VX-6HD Gen 2 goes where other scopes can't. The wide zoom range combined with an illuminated reticle and level, integrated throw lever and a fast-focus eyepiece with flip-back lens covers make the VX-6HD Gen 2 ideal for low-light hunting in all conditions. It's 100% waterproof and fogproof, and like all VX-6HD Gen 2 riflescopes, two free Custom Dials featuring SpeedSet™ technology are available.

The ultra-rugged and lightweight hunting scope goes where other scopes can't. Its combination of features, durability, and professional-grade HD optical performance guarantees that it can handle any challenge you throw at it.

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SOLD Manners TCS

Up for consideration is a brand new Manners TCS competition rifle stock. The stock was never fielded only had an action mounted and kept in my safe. Specs of rifle stock below.

Manners TCS
Elite evergreen high gloss
Sikes clutch rail G knob
Full weight kit in arca rail
Price is $1350 shipped and insured.

Only trades I’m interested in would be:
Nightforce nx8 F1 4-32 with mil C
Impact 737 or terminus zues in 223bf
Manners TF4a Carbon folder (most interested in this trade item)

(It is cross listening fb and long range hunting forum)

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SOLD Rifle sold; Vortex Razor Gen II Listed separately with rings

This listing is for a CZ 457 Manner MTR w/ the following:

(1) Metal 5 Round Mag
(1) L3I 13 Round Mag
Area 419 30 MOA Rail
Area 419 Bolt Handle
Area 419 Arca Rail
Vortex PMR Rings
Vortex Gen II Razor 4.5-27x56 MRAD (EBR-7C)
Sig Sauer Sniper Data Book made by THULS (includes all information from their Precision Scoped Rifle Course 101)
CZ 457 Bore Guide
Boxes for rifle and scope

Rifle has 200 rounds of Lapua Center X through it and pictured is the "Zero" target.

I'm left handed and have kept right handed rifles on hand for new shooters to use at NRL22 event. I am the match director for New Hampshire and host NRL22 Matches at the Pemi Fish and Game Club in Holderness NH. I am willing to let a potential buyer shoot it at a match.

$3,200.00 local sale. Will ship on buyers dime.

PayPal friends and family with no note and message me on here for shipping.

Easier to see pics on Rimfire Central, I haven’t been able to figure out why some pics load here and others don’t: https://www.rimfirecentral.com/thre...743&nested_view=1&sortby=oldest#post-13738743

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MicroBest Chrome BCG - Pictures and Comparison

This is only pictures and a comparison. There are tons of durability reviews if you do a search.

MicroBest is the OEM for many big name manufacturers. BCM, SOLGW, etc. They offer a bunch of configurations in a handful of finishes. This is the all chrome, C158 variant. It also comes in Phosphate and Nitride. The chrome option is available with different material extractors and gas keys as well as unique fasteners and Sprinco springs. These carriers run anywhere from $90 in phosphate up to $165+ in chrome with different options.

This is the base MicroBest chrome finish with C158 bolt BCG and I planned on installing Sprinco extractor spring and gas rings. When I took it apart I found a 5 coil CS spring and heavy gas rings. I believe they are Sprinco but the BCG was not listed as containing such and I can't prove they are Sprinco. I did not change them as a result. I paid $118 shipped to my door.

I have a Brownells chrome BCG that I purchased last year. I do not believe it is made by MicroBest. It was listed as having a 9310 bolt. The markings are lasered instead of engraved like MicroBest. The original extractor spring and rings were pretty soft so I changed them to Sprinco. I paid $90 for the Brownells BCG, they are now listed for $120. I would choose the MicroBest over the Brownells but there is nothing wrong with the Brownells and will continue using it. The Brownells BCG has maybe 150 rounds on it.

The last picture is a bolt face comparison of the Brownells BCG, MicroBest BCG, and a no-name BCG I bought for $40 five or six years ago. The no-name part is likely Chinese; it is out of spec in every way possible. You can see how bad it is with the naked eye looking at the lugs alone.

I believe the MicroBest branded BCGs to be the best value options on the market today. I have been using their phosphate BCG's for many years. The chrome options are the sweet spot for quality, finish, and value. Everything you need, nothing you don't. If you do a web search for "chrome microbest bcg" you get tons of options at very good prices. I hope this helps.

I can't insert pictures, only add them. The MicroBest is all chrome and new, the Brownells has phosphate fasteners and is used.

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Accessories SR-5 G2 ARCA

Used but good shape. Used for four matches and some load development. $280 shipped.

I will not contact you. If someone does it's not me and is a scam. Again, you dm me if interested.

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Seeking Low Back Pressure .30cal Can (so many choices)

Not sure if this is the best place to post this so, Mod, please move if indicated .

Been toying with the idea of getting a .30cal can that I can move around my rifles (so I am new to this world). Mostly milsurp, kit-built or as-built military semi autos i.e. AKMs, FALs, PRT91, PSL, M1A, AR15s/AR10 and others. I also have a couple .308 precision rifles (RPR and Robar SR90) Been doing a lot of Saturday morning reading/surfing and, good lord, what a minefield of options, opinions and choices. Frankly it’s overwhelming.

I’ll probably never put them on my SBR’d Dracos so no short barrel concerns. Not really concerned about heat from full auto or crazy mag dumps so rapid heat up (and cool down) wi Titanium okay. I’m mainly a benchrest plinker slapping steel out to typically 400yds, maybe a couple/few mags at a time slow fire. I’ve learned low-blowback designs may not be as quiet forward of the muzzle but seem to do as well with noise reduction as traditional baffled can at the rear and sides of the shooter. For the precision rifles I may end up getting a traditional baffled Can one day but for my semi-autos I am resolved to get a newer low-blowback design and I’m settling between two newer options on the market. Looking for any thoughts, opinions, experiences with :

Dead Air Nomad Ti XC (under 10oz @ 7”) OR Huxwrx Ventum 762 (14.5oz @ 6.7”)
• Both use a universal Hub system = good.
• Both are Titanium 3D printed.
• The Ventum seems to have a lot of independent seemingly objective, high-praise reviews and gets great marks for some of the lowest blowback performance.
• The Ventum’s guts can come out of the tube which I suppose is a plus for cleaning or service.
• The Ventum is under $1,000
• The Nomad Ti XC is pretty new and I can’t find much independent review of the Ti XC outside of Dead Air or Retailer interviews or what look like product launch videos.
• The Nomad Ti XC: How’s blow-back performance?
• The Nomad Ti XC is a bit lighter but I’m typically on a bench so not a big deal
• The Nomad Ti XC is about $1,100 but ships with either a 5/8-24 direct thread adapter or Xeno adapter and brake.
• (I read about some nasty customer support issues wi Dead Air but when you’re a bigger company and been around a while someone’s gonna get but hurt and spread it all over the internet for others to parrot.)

I’ll have to buy compatible muzzle devices for all potential rifle hosts but will probably just start with a couple/few. I don’t know off of the top of my head what thread specs are for that list of rifles I have. Are there pretty standard muzzle device options out there for standard NATO and ComBloc type rifles (AKMs, FALs, PRT91, PSL, M1A, AR15s/AR10 and others) ?

BTW what the f_ck is with the crazy $90-250+ costs of all these little thread adapters, tapered flash-hiders, brakes, caps or other adapter/widgets in this world? Probably a topic for a whole other thread (and probably is) but I bet if these were no longer NFA items most suppressors would be a couple/few hundred dollars, the hiders and brakes would be under $50 bucks, and other thread-type adapters and caps would be what they should be, around $10 or so dollars (unsolicited opinion, probably in ignorance).

Anyway, preciate any insights and, PS, it would be more helpful if anyone would post something more than . . . . “JUST GET a _______”.

This guy seems to rate all Huxwrx overall highest for low back pressure
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Accessories LBT LowPro 3 Day Extended Backpack $150

Two of these for sale in Coyote Brown.
Used once or twice, barely left the house in excellent to like new condition.
From LBT's site:
General Features
Slick exterior
Heavy Duty reinforced carry handle
Grommet drain holes (3)
Top zippered pocket
Hook for identification patches
Two exterior side pocket sleeves
Two interior side pocket sleeves
Hook and loop hangers for hydration system
Elastic port opening for hydration hose
Adjustable, padded, shoulder straps with sternum strap
(6) Side release closures for zipper security
Padded, adjustable, waist strap
Included removable internal frame with aluminum stays
Overall Dimensions
14L x 7W x22H
Weight: 4.25lbs

You can see more pics on site of the features.

$150 shipped to lower 48.

One sold to amitune.
One still available.

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