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SOLD Staccato C2 DPO Limited Edition
- By E. Bryant
- Buy - Sell - Trade
- 8 Replies
For sale is a lightly used Staccato C2 DPO pistol. This is the Limited Edition version that includes the ICE comp, lightening cuts in the slide serrations, a tuned trigger, and DLC finish on both the slide and barrel. It has about 600 rounds of indoor target use and is in excellent condition.
Included are the following:
- Extreme Shooters grip w/ "regular" reduction and bobtail (the unmodified factory grip is also included)
- three extra 16rd magazines (five total)
- Jarvis unthreaded bull barrel w/ DLC finish
- Trijicon RM07 RMR and DPO mounting plate (the original side cover plate w/ rear sight is also included)
- all the factory accessories and documentation
$2700 shipped from my FFL to your dealer. I am not interested in trade offers at this time. SOLD!!!
Included are the following:
- Extreme Shooters grip w/ "regular" reduction and bobtail (the unmodified factory grip is also included)
- three extra 16rd magazines (five total)
- Jarvis unthreaded bull barrel w/ DLC finish
- Trijicon RM07 RMR and DPO mounting plate (the original side cover plate w/ rear sight is also included)
- all the factory accessories and documentation
SOLD Kestrel 4500NV w/ Horus Atrag
- By E. Bryant
- Buy - Sell - Trade
- 8 Replies
For sale is a Kestrel 4500NV weather meter with Bluetooth and integrated Horus Atrag ballistics software. It is in like-new condition and includes the original packaging, documentation, and accessories.
$150 shipped. I am not interested in trade offers at this time. SOLD!!!
NYPD New Year's Rifle
- By Buck Wilde
- The Bear Pit
- 127 Replies
On New Year's Eve, a friend of mine sent me some photos and video his son had shot. His son works in Manhattan, and he photographed a cop (hopefully) with a big ol' sniper rifle.
My understanding is that this thing is a Sako which costs about $12,000 before glass. That's the price for people who actually pay for it, although these guns were provided to the NYPD in a high-profile transaction, so maybe they got a deal.
My question: if Chris Kyle got by with a $6,500 rifle, why did the NYPD need this Sako?
I checked Sako's website, and it looks like it's full of sales BS, but I am no sniper.
They say this thing can be worked on by the user. Well, I work on my guns just fine, and I am incapable of real gunsmithing. And police departments have unions that would never go for taking work away from full-time armorers.
They say you can swap the barrel for different jobs. If you can afford a $12,000 gun, can't you afford more guns and leave the barrels where they are? Maybe I'm ignorant, but what professional sniper wants to swap barrels after he gets his gun just right? It makes no sense to me. How would you keep your zero? And if you have to swap barrels before leaving the station, doesn't it mean you're an incompetent who has no idea what the mission is? Shouldn't you have all that stuff figured out before the call comes?
The whole thing mystifies me. You can walk into Bass Pro and buy a reliable 0.75-MOA rifle whenever you want, so what is the purpose of this thing? No cop needs more accuracy than that.
Okay, tell me why I'm wrong. I just put my flameproof socks on.
My understanding is that this thing is a Sako which costs about $12,000 before glass. That's the price for people who actually pay for it, although these guns were provided to the NYPD in a high-profile transaction, so maybe they got a deal.
My question: if Chris Kyle got by with a $6,500 rifle, why did the NYPD need this Sako?
I checked Sako's website, and it looks like it's full of sales BS, but I am no sniper.
They say this thing can be worked on by the user. Well, I work on my guns just fine, and I am incapable of real gunsmithing. And police departments have unions that would never go for taking work away from full-time armorers.
They say you can swap the barrel for different jobs. If you can afford a $12,000 gun, can't you afford more guns and leave the barrels where they are? Maybe I'm ignorant, but what professional sniper wants to swap barrels after he gets his gun just right? It makes no sense to me. How would you keep your zero? And if you have to swap barrels before leaving the station, doesn't it mean you're an incompetent who has no idea what the mission is? Shouldn't you have all that stuff figured out before the call comes?
The whole thing mystifies me. You can walk into Bass Pro and buy a reliable 0.75-MOA rifle whenever you want, so what is the purpose of this thing? No cop needs more accuracy than that.
Okay, tell me why I'm wrong. I just put my flameproof socks on.
Rifle Scopes Nightforce 4-20 ATACR vs 5-25 ATACR
- By nick338
- Observation & Sighting Devices
- 49 Replies
SOLD FN 509 Tactical Midsize - Threaded Barrel - Optics Ready
- By dubbednate
- Buy - Sell - Trade
- 4 Replies
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A friendly accuracy challenge. Beat the match conditioned M14's/M1A's! (Piston-driven rifles)
- By TonyBen
- Semi-Automatic Rifles
- 21 Replies
The M14 is an old dog but it has the benefit of having decades of accuracy enhancements implemented by military match armorers and sniper/DMR programs that were dedicated to turning a 5 MOA battle rifle into a sniper, DMR and competition rifle. The average match M14 built with premium components and built by a reputable builder should shoot 1 MOA give or take .25 MOA. This could be a traditional M14 with a heavy or medium barrel bedded into a heavy fiberglass or wood stock, or a rifle dropped into one of the modern chassis systems, like the JAE or the SAGE.
There's no argument that bolt action and traditional AR rifles using a DI gas system can be made to shoot more accurately and more consistently. This challenge is not aimed at those rifles.
The challenge:
Shoot a minimum of five 5-shot groups at a minimum distance of 100 yards with a non-DI rifle system. If you choose to do 10-shot groups or shoot farther (which I encourage), please do so. Groups may be shot off a bench or prone, off a bipod, or sandbags. I encourage shooting off a sturdy bench (preferably made of cinder blocks with a cement top) and with a large sand bag, like the Caldwell Tack Driver bag. You may use factory ammo or tailored handloads. Any power scope of choice is allowed. You may shoot with iron sights as well, if you dare!
What to include:
-Pictures of the rifle, range, bench, groups with date. Specify distance (100 yards, 600 yards, etc...)
-Rifle specs to include any special enhancements, like upgraded barrel, trigger, modified gas system, chassis system etc... (brag about your rifle!)
-Specify method of measuring. I personally use digital calipers and open them up to the bullet diameter (0.308") and then hit ZERO. I then measure the extreme spread and that gives me the center to center spread. If you choose to use a digital measuring device, please do so and let us know what app it is so we can use it too!
-Electronic scoring or marking systems that display the distance and group size is allowed as well.
The challenge is open to the following rifles: Any semi-auto military style rifle that is driven by a piston of some sort and chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor, 308, 260 Remington, or even 30-06 (just to allow the Garand guys to play, if they so desire). HK91's are included in this challenge even though they are roller-delayed blowback rifles. Any barrel length is allowed.
Examples include, but are not limited to:
M14 variants
FN SCAR-17/20s
FAL
M110A1
LMT MARS
B&T APC308
Sig MCX SPEAR
Any piston driven AR-10 variant
HK91 variants/CETME
Targets:
Any target that allows you to get the best consistency using your scope or iron sights. Here are som sample targets that I use for scopes:
Here are some sample targets I used for iron sights. These were my zeroing targets for my double-lugged M14.
So, let the game begin!
There's no argument that bolt action and traditional AR rifles using a DI gas system can be made to shoot more accurately and more consistently. This challenge is not aimed at those rifles.
The challenge:
Shoot a minimum of five 5-shot groups at a minimum distance of 100 yards with a non-DI rifle system. If you choose to do 10-shot groups or shoot farther (which I encourage), please do so. Groups may be shot off a bench or prone, off a bipod, or sandbags. I encourage shooting off a sturdy bench (preferably made of cinder blocks with a cement top) and with a large sand bag, like the Caldwell Tack Driver bag. You may use factory ammo or tailored handloads. Any power scope of choice is allowed. You may shoot with iron sights as well, if you dare!
What to include:
-Pictures of the rifle, range, bench, groups with date. Specify distance (100 yards, 600 yards, etc...)
-Rifle specs to include any special enhancements, like upgraded barrel, trigger, modified gas system, chassis system etc... (brag about your rifle!)
-Specify method of measuring. I personally use digital calipers and open them up to the bullet diameter (0.308") and then hit ZERO. I then measure the extreme spread and that gives me the center to center spread. If you choose to use a digital measuring device, please do so and let us know what app it is so we can use it too!
-Electronic scoring or marking systems that display the distance and group size is allowed as well.
The challenge is open to the following rifles: Any semi-auto military style rifle that is driven by a piston of some sort and chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor, 308, 260 Remington, or even 30-06 (just to allow the Garand guys to play, if they so desire). HK91's are included in this challenge even though they are roller-delayed blowback rifles. Any barrel length is allowed.
Examples include, but are not limited to:
M14 variants
FN SCAR-17/20s
FAL
M110A1
LMT MARS
B&T APC308
Sig MCX SPEAR
Any piston driven AR-10 variant
HK91 variants/CETME
Targets:
Any target that allows you to get the best consistency using your scope or iron sights. Here are som sample targets that I use for scopes:
Here are some sample targets I used for iron sights. These were my zeroing targets for my double-lugged M14.
So, let the game begin!
Is the turdeau finally going to flush?
- By Im2bent
- The Bear Pit
- 15 Replies
Canada's embattled PM Justin Trudeau announces he will step down
There have been growing calls for his resignation, with the Liberals lagging behind the Conservatives in opinion polls and internal battles raging over his handling of President-elect Donald Trump.
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SOLD Schmidt Bender PM II 3-27x56 L/P LT H59 FFP .1 MRAD CCW w/Spuhr Mount - $1650 OBO
- By BrianPTR
- Buy - Sell - Trade
- 10 Replies
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Night Vision WTS: ATN Thor 4 640, 1.5-15x, w/ ABL-1000 rangefinder, used
- By Timmeh19
- Buy - Sell - Trade
- 5 Replies
