Tempest Builds..Lets See em

[5RWill]

Figured i'd get the Tempest thread back up.

 

[PimpAvogadro]

Old picture of the tempest. She looks different now. I'll post that photo eventually.

 

[Shanerbanner10]

Trying to find an action! If anyone knows where one is let me know!

Mine will be as follows (hoping to have it done by the of the month):
Tempest (Nitrided)
Bix'n Andy Comp
J Allen Enterprises (custom colors)
Atlas PSR
Proof Stainless for now, will chamber a couple barrels for it.
MPA 1 piece mount and self timing 6.5 premium brake
Vortex G2 Razor 4.5-27

 

[Gunmutt]

Figured i'd get the Tempest thread back up.

Nice looking rig. I am in the process of building up a tempest. It's has got to the the smoothest action on the market in the precision field.

 

[5RWill]

Definitely a good one. I'm interested to see how the Bix N Andy Trigger feels with it but currently they're priced high. I thought i had read they were going to be 250$ or so. Probably pickup a Huber after a while if the price for the B&A stays that high.

 

[Shanerbanner10]

Definitely a good one. I'm interested to see how the Bix N Andy Trigger feels with it but currently they're priced high. I thought i had read they were going to be 250$ or so. Probably pickup a Huber after a while if the price for the B&A stays that high.

BIx'n Andy just realased a 235$ single stage and 250$ 2 stage. They ship April 1st, i believe. I currently have the Bix'n Andy Comp trigger (399$) and it feels quite a bit better than a Jewell which is what I am used to. I do not like the feel of a Timney trigger breaking. I much prefer the Jewell's almost "mushy" break which the Bix is similar to, but noticeably smoother.
I will be running it in my Tempest and JAE whenever they get here.

 

[5RWill]

I'm getting to where i dislike my Timney 2-stage triggers. There is just too much take up before the firing pin drops, it causes anticipation for me.

 

[craigos]

BIx'n Andy just realased a 235$ single stage and 250$ 2 stage. They ship April 1st, i believe. I currently have the Bix'n Andy Comp trigger (399$) and it feels quite a bit better than a Jewell which is what I am used to. I do not like the feel of a Timney trigger breaking. I much prefer the Jewell's almost "mushy" break which the Bix is similar to, but noticeably smoother.
I will be running it in my Tempest and JAE whenever they get here.

Let me know what hanger you are using. Tried all the hangers (no markings, 10, 20, 30) with my B&A and none worked.

 

[joker1-1]

does any store have them in stock?

 

[5RWill]

B&A released their own hanger is what someone said on here.

 

[Shanerbanner10]

Bullet Central has a hanger for the bix. That said, everyone I've talked to said the 20 and 30 worked fine.

 

[5RWill]

Took her out to K&M this past weekend. Other than a couple of my reloads being tight, it ran like a machine. I couldn't see myself ever going back to any other action, at least not for a competition setting. I botched the hell out of two stages but stages that required speed like the 300yd mover i went 7/10 on. Placed 53rd, nothing to write home about, but better than my first outing. Also was sick as hell and running fever, which i'm paying for now after being out in the cold for 10 hours.
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[craigos]

B&A released their own hanger is what someone said on here.

I need to take a look then, will contact the folks over at bulletscentral ...

 

[5RWill]

I couldn't find them on the site, was just looking. But i assume they will. I'll link you to the thread that someone told me that.

 

[5RWill]

http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...-stage-trigger-decision?p=6255983#post6255983

 

[Crazy1323]

A little off topic, but which range at K&M is that? Looks pretty new. Is there any steel on it yet?

Took her out to K&M this past weekend. Other than a couple of my reloads being tight, it ran like a machine. I couldn't see myself ever going back to any other action, at least not for a competition setting. I botched the hell out of two stages but stages that required speed like the 300yd mover i went 7/10 on. Placed 53rd, nothing to write home about, but better than my first outing. Also was sick as hell and running fever, which i'm paying for now after being out in the cold for 10 hours.
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[sierracharlie338]

This thread is not helping me not want one of these any less.... Great looking rifles here.

 

[5RWill]

A little off topic, but which range at K&M is that? Looks pretty new. Is there any steel on it yet?

As far as i know it's new, i know it wasn't there last April when i went. That was the 1100yd stage the back berm is probably 1400 or something.

 

[5RWill]

This thread is not helping me not want one of these any less.... Great looking rifles here.

Get one man you wont regret it. Like i said i don't see myself going back to another action for competition. Actually thinking of a trying to make either a tempest 223 trainer if i can or a tikka t3 varmint with a swept back bolt handle so it would be nearly identical to the tempest.

 

[sierracharlie338]

Get one man you wont regret it. Like i said i don't see myself going back to another action for competition. Actually thinking of a trying to make either a tempest 223 trainer if i can or a tikka t3 varmint with a swept back bolt handle so it would be nearly identical to the tempest.

Well I just sold my 260 so I am now in the market for a 6.5. . . . hmmmmmmmm

 

[5RWill]

Well I just sold my 260 so I am now in the market for a 6.5. . . . hmmmmmmmm

 

[pangelos]

A few that I built last year. One for me and the rest for customers

 

[5RWill]

Ran mine today again in another 1 day match. I think i go to fast with it. Lol i just love cycling the the thing because i can do so much more quickly than a 90 degree. Had to calm down after putting up a 3 and 4 on the first couple of stages.

I'll also say definitively hanger 30 for the Timney CE 2-Stage. 500rds now with no misfires or light strikes. I've technically had one but it was because i bumped some shoulders back entirely too much.

 

[sierracharlie338]

5RWill you are killing me man!

 

[craigos]

I couldn't find them on the site, was just looking. But i assume they will. I'll link you to the thread that someone told me that.

I picked up 2 Bix N Andy GAP tempest hangers. Currently they are out of stock. Have teh BnA Marksman - will install once i get the hangers.

 

[5RWill]

I picked up 2 Bix N Andy GAP tempest hangers. Currently they are out of stock. Have teh BnA Marksman - will install once i get the hangers.

Keep me posted on how you like that trigger.

 

[Shanerbanner10]

I love the trigger this far. I've had it in a buddies rifle and have a couple hundred rounds on it. Smoother than a Jewell, but hard to tell if you run your triggers less than a pound.

Found an action- should be at my FFL today. Hopefully going to go down and spin a barrel on it this weekend or sometime next week. JAE should be shipping Monday or Tuesday so I should have my Tempest up and running by the end of next week! I will need to get load development done, get about 100-150 rounds on it before the next weekend for a match and then a PRS match the weekend after that.
It will have a Bix'n Andy in it with Jewell as the back up. What hanger are you guys running for Jewell triggers?

JAE, Tempest, Bix/n Andy, MPA 1 piece mount, Premier 5-25, Atlas PSR, Area 419 Hellfire... Doesn't get much better than that! I am beyond excited to finish this thing.

 

[5RWill]

Nice, can't wait to see pics.

So the B&A's second stage is a crisp wall with little to no take up? Unlike the Timney's?

 

[Shanerbanner10]

Nice, can't wait to see pics.

So the B&A's second stage is a crisp wall with little to no take up? Unlike the Timney's?

I'm using the single stage "Competition" trigger. I've got it set right at a pound. I do not like 2 stage triggers.That said, the Bix'n Andy trigger breaks more like a Jewell than a Timney (feel wise).

 

[5RWill]

I see, i need to get my hands on that two-stage

 

[craigos]

I see, i need to get my hands on that two-stage

Hangers should be here in a day or so. Will let you know. I hated the timney 2 stage - second stage had creep and wasnt crisp.

 

[5RWill]

Hangers should be here in a day or so. Will let you know. I hated the timney 2 stage - second stage had creep and wasnt crisp.

Yeah i feel the same way about mine, which is why i'm looking to switch.

 

[Shanerbanner10]

I should have the hanger today as well from Bullet Central. Hoping to go throw a barrel on this things this weekend or early this coming week.

 

[craigos]

So i got the BulletCentral GATempest Hanger and I installed the trigger. The best explanation is OMG!!!! I have the BnA Marksman trigger ($495, 2 stage, fully adjustable). Set the 1st stage for 1 lb and the 2st for 1lb. There is no perceivable movement on the second stage - its amazing. I shoot Hubers ... Now the bad news - my temest is in a Manners stock with BO DBM bottom metal - you will need to get your dremel out as the trigger mech is a few thousands too thick to slide the trigger mech through the trigger gap - just ever so slightly too think - will need to shave it down.

 

[craigos]

Correction, its the trigger shoe that makes contact with the Bottom Metal at the front, if you reduce the 1st stage travel to barely min it will fit unmodified. Or alternatively mill out a few thousands at the front of the trigger guard. Likely this is unique to the Marskman trigger only as the trigger shoe and adj screws are way forward. I have the BnA tacsport on back order and that would work and any single stage would work. But if you have a marksmans you will need to shorten that 1st stage travel to barely any movement if you dont want to mill the bottom metal a little. But again - this trigger rocks and the firing pin extrusion is maxed out.

 

[5RWill]

Was going to say i had Tom take a lot of my mini-chassis just to fit the Timney. I'm hoping the tacsport will fit with no issues.

 

[Shanerbanner10]

Off to throw a barrel on the Tempest tomorrow morning. JAE is done and will be here Friday afternoon! Just gotta seat bullets for load dev. Shooting Saturady morning. Getting pretty darn excited!
I am shooting a match next weekend and the following weekend a PRS match, so I've got very little time to get load dev done, rounds on the better to get to a steady speed and acquire solid dope. Gotta get all that done either Saturday/Sunday or knock some of it out next.

 

[5RWill]

Keep us posted on the progress! I gotta do load development this weekend too

 

[Shanerbanner10]

Threw together the barreled action on Thursday. Picked up the stock Friday morning and assembled everything. I've got 180 rounds on the barrel now. Here are a couple pictures.
Parting
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[kabarNC]

Threw together the barreled action on Thursday. Picked up the stock Friday morning and assembled everything. I've got 180 rounds on the barrel now. Here are a couple pictures.


That is one beautiful rifle!

 

[5RWill]

Looks amazing Shane, how's she shoot?

 

[Shanerbanner10]

Looks amazing Shane, how's she shoot?

No load development yet, just a base load at 41.7 with 4451 to get some rounds on the barrel It shot about 1/2 moa. Maybe a little over half. I am going to try to knock out load development tomorrow morning. The mirage was too bad to do it over the weekend.

 

[5RWill]

Loaded up some groups with the 130gr hybrids and IMR 4166 from 36-37gr in 1/2gr increments. Thus far much more consistent than the Normas. I'm going to see if i can manage to push further as i haven't come across pressure signs yet and other than my fault with fliers 36 and 37 look pretty decent. I think i can tighten up 37gr. I hope i can get 2900fps this time around.

 

[5RWill]

I guess not that many people are running tempest anymore?

 

[Supersubes]

I cant build one because they seem to be unobtanium. Ive been on OTM's wait list for 8 months. A friend of mine over 6 months. GA doesn't return the calls inquiring about them.

 

[5RWill]

Oh, i didn't realize there was a shortage. I wonder if GA is having issues with Horizon machine.

 

[Shanerbanner10]

Oh, i didn't realize there was a shortage. I wonder if GA is having issues with Horizon machine.

I don't believe so. I believe GA Precision has designated so many builds that just about every action they get goes into their line for a build so they do not have any to send out to distributors.

 

[jzwolen]

I ordered my action from GAP back in July 2016, and received it in March. 8-10 months seems to be the standard.

I'm having issues chambering about 2/10 rounds. The bolt gets stuck about 3/4" from final stop. If i back pressure off just a little bit, i'm able to slide it forward the final distance, and close the bolt. I'm not seeing any marks on the cartridge itself, so i cant tell if its nose-diving or getting caught on the neck or shoulder. I'm going to try to get a video of it this weekend.

 

[5RWill]

Have you called GAP? Also what do you mean stuck 3/4ths from the final stop? Like you can almost fully chamber a round or are having issues closing the bolt/camming it over the round once in the chamber?

 

[jzwolen]

the bolt comes to a stop about 3/4" away from final chamber, before begin able to cam the bold down. I have not called GAP yet...still trying to see if i can diagnose anything noticable