"Your tail light is out"
"I want to see it"
"You're under arrest"
"Get out of the car" while being immobilized by tazer juice.
Then dragged out and beaten
Back the blue baby
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Just general nonsense and stupidity. The driver wants to know how this happened? I can sum it up for him in one sentence. Citizens lacking common sense and disobeying basic commands and officers lacking basic communication skills.
Says the guy that misinterpreted my entire post and also misquoted me..."and officers lacking basic communication skills." I think I made it pretty clear that this should have never happened and that the police were in the wrong.We found the guy who thinks its ok to taze and beat a dude who asks to see the tail light that is out.
And “wouldnt follow orders”.
Good Officers dont command peaceful people.
Pussies with a complex do.
Any cop who starts a shoving match vs being able to verbally de-escalate that should be doing something else for a living.
Go slurp at the fountain of popo worship somewhere else.
Exactly. By now everyone should know that you just stay in your car. Had he done that it would all have been avoided. When the stop is over get a time stamped photo for court.Just general nonsense and stupidity. The driver wants to know how this happened? I can sum it up for him in one sentence. Citizens lacking common sense and disobeying basic commands and officers lacking basic communication skills.
Beware, @powdahound76 is coming for you next.Exactly. By now everyone should know that you just stay in your car. Had he done that it would all have been avoided. When the stop is over get a time stamped photo for court.
Thats not to say the Popo didnt over react here.
Cop was an asshole.officers lacking basic communication skills.
Right now cops are at their weakest. Zero support from media…..
Get out of that car
Get in their face
Get your ass kicked
Make that money
This. He likely would have gotten off with a warning IF he did as I do:How you react in a traffic stop means all the difference in the world.
Lucky for me I have had so much practice at getting pulled over that now it doesn't even raise my blood pressure or heart rate to get stopped.
Only been tased once! LOL
If you refer to my first post (post #2) I did acknowledge he’s at a disadvantage in this aspect.He's white he ain't getting shit and he'll be lucky to not get locked up in some shithole okiehoma jail for resisting or disorderly or something.
Be sure to post an update when the court rules.
-If you carry , "Officer, I have a CCW, the weapon is in the glove box, here's my permit, would it make yuo more comfortable if I exited the vehicle?"
Michigan has been like this for a whileYou do you but this is not something I recommend unless your state law requires you to do so.
Here in Ohio we finally got rid of that "duty to inform" starting June 13. We only have to say so if asked.
Handing a CCW to a LEO with my license has always meant "not a felon".You do you but this is not something I recommend unless your state law requires you to do so.
Here in Ohio we finally got rid of that "duty to inform" starting June 13. We only have to say so if asked.
Foregone conclusion
We're not required to but they will know as soon as they run you so its better to put them at ease fron the beginning. There a lot of morons out there.You do you but this is not something I recommend unless your state law requires you to do so.
Here in Ohio we finally got rid of that "duty to inform" starting June 13. We only have to say so if asked.
Intoxicated drivers have notoriously made poor decisions...This moron refused to stop because his lights were too bright or something like that, some say illegal stop? But I think it’s fair for the cops to stop you if you have an equipment malfunction.
So anyways then this dude keeps driving for 30 minutes then gets out and shoots at the cops. Now we got to support his sorry carcass for 18 years.
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Lots of humans dislike authority on pretty much any level....Driver was not entitled to get out of the car and, assuming he opened the door, he wasn't entitled to do that either unless he first informed the officer that the window mechanism didn't work and the officer agreed to him opening the door. That said, the officer has a responsibility to de-escalate and, from what's available in this video, the response seems excessive, just like it would have been with a black man in the same situation. But why can't people simply sit in the bloody car? Just sit in the fucking car and talk to the officer. Ask nicely to see the issue. Don't barge out of the car in entitled disbelief. Just sit in the mother fucking car. Why are traffic stops such flash points for some people?
We're not required to but they will know as soon as they run you so its better to put them at ease fron the beginning. There a lot of morons out there.
Driver was not entitled to get out of the car and, assuming he opened the door, he wasn't entitled to do that either unless he first informed the officer that the window mechanism didn't work and the officer agreed to him opening the door.
Why are traffic stops such flash points for some people?
Says the guy that misinterpreted my entire post and also misquoted me..."and officers lacking basic communication skills." I think I made it pretty clear that this should have never happened and that the police were in the wrong.
Kind of weird that you think anything goes while being detained as long as you are being "peaceful."
Here , we’re required to notify them. I’ve always thought that it was a good thing if dealing with a good officer but bad if dealing with a moron. I drive a company vehicle most of the time so they wouldn’t know unless they run my license. Not all, but the majority of LE in my area are morons just like the rest of people. “If you don’t touch yours, I won’t touch mine,” seems like a good way to get plugged.Handing a CCW to a LEO with my license has always meant "not a felon".
Lately they ask where the weapon is and then almost always answer with "If you don't touch yours, I won't touch mine".
Since when does a some jerk in a uniform mean you are no longer free to get out of your vehicle if you wish just by virtue of their presence?
Arrogant police thugs who like to think they should have everybody grovel, and bootlickers that cater to their delusions of power.
Did the police officer say that they were being detained and that they must remain in the vehicle first?
Perhaps someone wants to get out of their vehicle so they are clearly on camera so the police can't shoot them and then claim they were reaching for something so of course "I have a right to go home safely." (This has happened too many times and of course as usual there is no justice for the victims murdered by the police).
Because some folks work hard for their money, don't have a lot of it, and are not all that happy about bandits with badges taking what little they have and then telling them tough, take it up with the corrupt, complicit courts.
Here in AZ, you can conceal carry without a permit.... and roughly 50% of the cars on the road have a weapon on board. The LEOs are very used to the idea that there is better than a 50/50 chance the person they pull over is armed. At least most of them have a sense of humor about it.Here , we’re required to notify them. I’ve always thought that it was a good thing if dealing with a good officer but bad if dealing with a moron. I drive a company vehicle most of the time so they wouldn’t know unless they run my license. Not all, but the majority of LE in my area are morons just like the rest of people. “If you don’t touch yours, I won’t touch mine,” seems like a good way to get plugged.
Here in AZ, you can conceal carry without a permit....
All of that sounds great, especially the last point. But, regardless, you are compelled to follow the officer's instructions during an investigation, which is what a traffic stop is. Simply sit in the car -- do not feel entitled to open the door and get out of the car without permission. The officer DOES have the power in that situation. If you want to change the law, let's go for it. I'm with you. But if the officer didn't allow you to open the door and get out of the car, then stay in the car. I realize the media has drummed up a great deal of fear of police in general and your own and others experience inform your opinion here, but that doesn't change the fact you have been detained. You are being detained when you are subject to an investigation during a traffic stop. You are not under arrest, but you are being detained.
The officer(s) overreacted, clearly. No question in my mind there.
When I see this type of situation and it's a black man, I often see (not saying you) people arguing my exact point. "He should have stayed in the car." "He should have complied with the officer's instructions." "It's all his fault." But this time the sentiment is it's the officer's fault only.
The driver is at fault here inasmuch as the officer overreacted. Stay in the car. Hands on the steering wheel. Be a mature adult and talk and act respectfully and calmly. Do not give an officer a reason to believe you are going to react in any other way. You are not entitled to barge out of the car and go try and prove your point.
Lawful is something many LEO's either dont understand have not been trained properly or simply ignore.This.
Obey lawful commands.
Why is this so hard?
In Texas they know that the Registered owner has a ltc / ccw before they get out of thier car.You do you but this is not something I recommend unless your state law requires you to do so.
Here in Ohio we finally got rid of that "duty to inform" starting June 13. We only have to say so if asked.
there’s no reason for the officer to not be able to communicate better in a situation like this.
Funny, the last time I was stopped (and I RARELY get stopped) I did exactly this. The cop approached like he expected me to come out blazing. He actually said I looked nervous, because I had my hands on the wheel with my documents ready.This. He likely would have gotten off with a warning IF he did as I do:
-Stay in the car, put both hands on the wheel in plain sight HOLDING THE PAPERWORK HE'S GOING TO WANT. If its at night snap on the dome light so he can see the inside of the car (keep the front clear so he doenst need to worry about a pistol under the newspaper or shirt.
-Be polite and respectful.
-If you carry , "Officer, I have a CCW, the weapon is in the glove box, here's my permit, would it make yuo more comfortable if I exited the vehicle?"
Im peaceable and law abiding citizen, Sir, just like you I only want to go home safely to my family"