Just picked up my can, and was talking with the dealer apparently February E-Filers are getting shafted. One man picked up his DA nomad-l after waiting 70 days.
I thought someone posted here their paper they just tried to send was turned back?
E-form 4 filed 4/14/22
Approved 6/30/22
In hand 7/1/22
On a Ruger Charger w/APG Arms folder.
Tell me about it… 7 months in (weeks from an approval) My Obsidian 45 got disapproved due to an ATF dealer audit, 3 months later they resubmitted it. Took another 4 months for the “expedited” processing. If I hadn’t called and talked with the nice examiner lady who was helping me with it, who instantly realized there was an issue, and that it had not been labeled as expedited for special processing. She was able to request it, and then approve it, and send out the stamp, and I had my can within 2 weeks of that phone call…Over the Christmas holidays. She went above and beyond.
Shows there’s still some good folks out there, even if the agency they work for is corrupt as hell.
Overall time of 14 months while the average time was 6-8.
I’ll never use that dealer again due to the incompetence displayed during the audit, and refusing to inform their customers what was going on. 
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paper went out on 11/05/21
e file went out on 02/05/22
still nothing the paper may beat the efile back
e file went out on 02/05/22
still nothing the paper may beat the efile back
I wouldn't hold my breath on that... My last 3 paper forms were 14, 11, and 13 months. I just picked up the last one Monday.
450 days today…
Absolutely ridiculous.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Reach out to your congressman, Research UPIN, etc. Thank me later.
Seeing all these 450day ones has me worried.
Paper Form 4 submitted ~6/15/21 via MHSA, still waiting...
4x Form 4's on 12/23/21 submitted personally via certified mail, received all 4 back on 4/11/22. A little over 100 days on them. I guess I got lucky squeaking them in when everyone was starting eFile, or maybe the certified mail puts them on someone important's desk. Who knows.
I figured 14 months out on a can to make it for hunting season would make it comfortably... guess not.
Paper Form 4 submitted ~6/15/21 via MHSA, still waiting...
4x Form 4's on 12/23/21 submitted personally via certified mail, received all 4 back on 4/11/22. A little over 100 days on them. I guess I got lucky squeaking them in when everyone was starting eFile, or maybe the certified mail puts them on someone important's desk. Who knows.
I figured 14 months out on a can to make it for hunting season would make it comfortably... guess not.
Yep got 2 in jail there as well sitting at 14 and 12 months, all I do is laugh and laugh and cry.
I'm in LA also. My dealer told me in April they hadn't had an e-file go longer than 72 days. I'm at 91. Seems like it varies significantly.
I'm already 8 months on paper form. Only 8 more to go!
got a can approved in 76 days. i submitted two the same day, same dealer, identical everything. its 3 weeks later and the second can approval is nowhere in sight.
I have not called. I figured it's just there still pending.I guess didn't know there was anything to call about.
If you can get in touch with the actual examiner, and you specked into charisma, you might be able to get some movement. But, if you give up with the first contact at the ATF, all you’ll get is ‘still pending…’
Ultra 7 30 cal CB
Bought from Mile High 5/12/21
Tnt Guns received 5/21/21
Form 4 mailed 5/28/21
Tax stamp cashed 6/7/21
Approved 6/27/22
385 days.
Call from dealer 7/5/22
Picked up from dealer 7/5/22
Bought from Mile High 5/12/21
Tnt Guns received 5/21/21
Form 4 mailed 5/28/21
Tax stamp cashed 6/7/21
Approved 6/27/22
385 days.
Call from dealer 7/5/22
Picked up from dealer 7/5/22
Finally.....fucking finally
TBAC 338 ULTRA SR
Check cashed 3/12/21
Stamp at dealer 7/1/2022
Can picked up 7/5/2022
Official wait time just under 1 year 4 months....what a joke.
Took about 485 days for me, hopefully your time is soon man
I think that we should be able to wait 485 days to mail in our property, state and federal taxes. LOL
15 months and counting
This process is a joke. “Latest and greatest” doesn’t exist in suppressors.
2 more comparable suppressors have come out since I paid for mine.
It would be nice to have the most up to date product in my hands and using it before other, better products come to market. Nope! Not when dealing with the ATF!!!
This process is a joke. “Latest and greatest” doesn’t exist in suppressors.
2 more comparable suppressors have come out since I paid for mine.
It would be nice to have the most up to date product in my hands and using it before other, better products come to market. Nope! Not when dealing with the ATF!!!
I am at 371 days for a paper form 4, just dying from the inside out.
Don’t give up hope. Well, give up hope in the ATF, but your stamp will come back!
148 days, and I'm finally home with my Dead Air Nomad 30.
Feb. 8th.
E-File
Individual.
I told my wife that I've been shooting in the garage, but she just couldn't hear it.
Feb. 8th.
E-File
Individual.
I told my wife that I've been shooting in the garage, but she just couldn't hear it.
Seems to be around 110/140 days now which is still 1/3 of the previous wait. I’m happy they have done something to approve the time. Since the government would rather delay it if anything to stop people from purchasing
Hopefully this doesn’t get to the point of Being 7-8 months like paper we’re a couple years back.
Lazy asss people at the atf & FBI
I think it was random and more so early in on efile most were inside of 90ndays
I figured out the real problem today. Except for a very few clerical staff answering phones, etc, all the NFA examiners are working "remotely". No phone number to reach them, just an email address.
Basically they are all working from home perpetually. So Fed employees working at Federal employee productivity from their couch.
You didn't know that? Yeah, most of them are still working from home "because covid"...
I’m bummed myself, the Gen 2 TBAC 338 SR came out like 6 months after I ordered my Gen 1 back in March. Funny thing is people who efiled have gotten there Gen 2s faster then I got my Gen 1 can. Oh well. Never going paper route again!
Shout out to the manufacturers of suppressors.
Where is your outrage?
Our, your federal government is not trying to help your business, it is harming it.
I, as a past customer am probably not going to be a potential customer for future business from you unless this shit gets turned around.
Contact your representatives.
Why, as customers should we have to put up with this bullshit alone just to buy your product.
Let's start seeing some love.
As a business, you carry a bigger stick than we customers do.
If I am wrong about your involvement, my sincerest apologies, just haven't seen any engagement from your side.
Where is your outrage?
Our, your federal government is not trying to help your business, it is harming it.
I, as a past customer am probably not going to be a potential customer for future business from you unless this shit gets turned around.
Contact your representatives.
Why, as customers should we have to put up with this bullshit alone just to buy your product.
Let's start seeing some love.
As a business, you carry a bigger stick than we customers do.
If I am wrong about your involvement, my sincerest apologies, just haven't seen any engagement from your side.
Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations. It doesn't say we the corporations. It says we the people.
Besides have you not seen voting shenanigans going on? Are the representatives even 'voted' in or are they pretty much appointed?
Here's your involvement.
Staff - American Suppressor Association
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I don't think the manufacturers want cans removed from the NFA. They have a captive audience. If every Joe could build 8 solvent traps with no wait or an SOT, it would severely hurt their businesses.
I'm not saying they are bad people at all. Its purely business I think.
Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations. It doesn't say we the corporations. It says we the people.
Besides have you not seen voting shenanigans going on? Are the representatives even 'voted' in or are they pretty much appointed?
Here's your involvement.
Staff - American Suppressor Association
ASAStaff Knox Williams President & Executive Director Owen Miller Vice President Michael Williams General Counsel Jessica Cummings VP of Marketing Board of Directors Bobby Cox Sig Sauer — Vice President, Government Affairs Marty Daniel Daniel Defense — President and CEO Michael Derdziak Rugged...
ASA Corporate Sponsors - American Suppressor Association
SUPPORT THE COMPANIES THAT SUPPORT YOUR RIGHTS BECOME A SPONSOR Corporate sponsorship is the backbone of the American Suppressor Association. Without it, we would not exist. Voting Members Tier 1 Sponsors Tier 2 Sponsors Tier 3 Sponsors Non-Voting Members Tier 4 Sponsors Tier 5 Sponsors Round-Up...
LoL. That's exactly who the government works for. Corporations and their big budget lobby groups
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