Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1
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I hear that Brother! Who needs food when I can sate my appetite listening to Bruce tell me all
about how many genders there are
Yep. I’m a rancher and farmer and HATE the subsidies. But I’ll have to disagree with you that it’s pandering voter. Less than 2% of the population is in the production ag sector. That’s a small enough number that it’s not statistically relevant. Subsidies are about a cheap food supply. We all know what happens when a nation gets hungry. I wish the government would just back out and let the free market dictate what happens. All these subsidies do is keep inefficient producers in business.
Sorry for the rant. Motivational pic thread. Get off high center:
Mapping The U.S. Farm Subsidy $1M Club
Welfare to wealthy farmers: Over $11 billion in farm subsidies flowed to just 6,618 recipients who received at least $1 million since 2008. Who are they? We mapped them by ZIP Code across America.
www.forbes.com
Is the dark haired one staring in the new woke gender bent Sling Blade remake?
I recon I like SLAYER, mhmm.
This is a bit of a misleading statistic and is often used as a “scare tactics”, for lack of a better work. Currently, roughly 7000 farms produce over 80% of the food in the US. That number is predicted to go down to less than 5000 by 2050. Subsidies are production based, so it stands to reason that the biggest payment go to the fewest farms. This further solidifies my opinion that subsidies are designed to keep the food supply cheap.a good read -Mapping The U.S. Farm Subsidy $1M Club
Welfare to wealthy farmers: Over $11 billion in farm subsidies flowed to just 6,618 recipients who received at least $1 million since 2008. Who are they? We mapped them by ZIP Code across America.
Sadly, my name is on that list. But if I don’t take the subsidies, I’m at a disadvantage to my neighbors who do. If I want to be one of those 5000 farms producing food in 2050, I have to play the game.
On the flip side, what a lot of people don’t understand, is that right now, I’m operating over $1,000,000 worth of equipment just plowing to get the ground ready to plant. My operating budget is close to $10,000,000. We are a family farm. It’s just me and my dad with no hired help. If we profit $1,000,000 in a year, I consider us damn lucky. It’s normally $500,000 or less. That’s a 5% ROI, and up to 10% if I’m lucky. There’s years ROI is negative. On average, we probably have a 3% ROI. No businessman in his right mind would accept ROIs that we do on their investments.
For us, it’s not about the money. I love what I do. I work for myself. I have the freedom to operate how I want. Do the subsidies help? Sure. Could I make it without them? Absolutely. But you wouldn’t like the price you would have to pay to buy your food.
But everything is so highly subsidized. Food, oil, energy, the list goes on. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending subsidies, I wish they would go away. Some of my inefficient neighbors would go busted and I could farm more ground. I just like to educate people on what actually goes on in sectors they may not be closely tied to.
That’s all I’m going to say on this topic, because after all, this is a pic thread. If anyone wants to discuss it further, PM me. I’m happy to chat about all things agriculture.
Take your lib tard policy to the porta John
Holy crap, I agree with the commie on something. Nobody should be getting government handouts/subsidies.
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Disagree. Food would cost the same. What would change is where people pay for it. Now it only appears cheap (in the store) because I'm also paying through the IRS for that food. Now about the large percentage of people who don't pay income taxes, I'm buying a portion of their food too. Wealth redistribution 101.
Food prices would go up. Subsidies don’t change what it costs to produce. First rule of business is if you can’t cover fixed costs, close the doors. But your preaching to the choir. We’re paving peoples roads, putting their kids through school, making their energy more affordable. The government gets a lot of mileage out of that “promote the general welfare of the people” statement.
How many of you sick fucks are trying to find this chick? From I saw, she's a hair stylist, so definitely in the "danger zone".
You should pass. I'm not trying to be an asshole. Just a concerned brother that has been there and done that.
How many of you sick fucks are trying to find this chick? From I saw, she's a hair stylist, so definitely in the "danger zone".
Old Man with a gun is implying that farm subsidies are pandering for votes. I live in a farming and ranching Community in central Texas where most are just scratching out a living. With that said, they are not looking for handouts. In the 2016 election 93% of voters voted straight republican. Farm subsidies are for a far different purpose than buying votes on a large scale.
Slavery is everywhere I believe there are more slaves today than anytime in history. Most of that cheap shit everyone needs from asia has slave labor tied to it.
All these arguments are bull shit.
Everything can be produced safely and without slaves if the governments just got out of the the way.
Why don’t you just take your righteous indignation to your own thread and leave this one, as your posts are not appropriate to the thread theme. Plus, no pictures…
Come on y'all...motivational pics...BTW, my previous comment was intended as motivation...or just a sick joke, I'm not right in the head either ya filthy bastards. 
Food prices would not go up. You just said it, subsidies don't change what it costs to produce. Prices in the STORE would go up, but that isn't the same thing.
You’re logic is flawed. He implied that food would be bought in different places, i.e. direct from farmers. If that’s the case, without subsidies, farmers will price the food based on cost of production plus desired profit margin. Subsidies allow a farmer to accept a lower price for their products, because they make up the shortfall. In his situation he mentioned, the haves will buy food direct from the farmer at a higher price. The have nots will not have access to that food because they can’t afford it and no one is going to sell at a loss.
And we haven’t even talked about the government dicking with our markets. Through foreign policy, including tariffs, trade embargoes, and retaliation from our foreign customers, they can wreck our markets overnight. A portion of the subsidies is to make up for what they screw up.
I’m done. Carry on with the motivation.
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This is for all of you still arguing about non-motivational bullshit.
Its 20012 year model. 10 years old and only had an 8 year warranty.
Ok. I am going to step in and open myself to ridicule, criticism and arguement. I am a farmer / rancher. I do take subsidies because as one poster stated it is a competitive market with our neighbors for survival. There has been a lot of wisdom and input by all sides posting. I don't care about getting rich. I care about the life that God allowed my family and passing it down to future generations. I am different from a earlier poster who gave a tremendous amount of good insight.........I do not wish to farm more land. Why would I want more to manage and worry about. It is no different than wanting more money. For some that thirst is never quenched. I also DO NOT need to drive the latest tractor John Deere offers.
My neighbors think that I am modern, progressive and a forward thinker. New equipment is not part of that.
So now the meat and potatos so to speak:
We as agriculture producers are stuck in a system that enslaves us to create wealth for the same few. We are slaves to John Deere, Monsanto / Bayer, Case IH, Agco, Simplot, Cargill, ADM, etc. Our job is to survive just enough to pass those subsidies on. They are not for the producer, they are for the input supplier. It is a very old shell game. They have no intention of letting us out of debt. Input financing is big buisness for big banks. No different than housing, auto loans, etc. We like the rest of you are controlled and used. You as a consumer and I as a producer are sinking in the same boat. WE ARE PAWNS!
We do not vote democrat and our votes are not bought by subsidies.
Some will say that crop insurance subsidies are a waste. Maybe so in some areas. For my area it is essential. This year and the extreme drought is a perfect example. I have never seen so much headless milo. Years like this those in my area could not financially survive because we still have to launder subsidies to the suppliers who have already stated chemicals next year will be 20 percent higher just because they can.
I dare say if inputs were not so damn high and subsidies were not laundered through the producer........successful farm sizes could be smaller and more posters here who have farm back ground in their families might be farming instead of working in town.
Remember........if I have a dollar in my pocket, I will spend it locally. If a politician has a dollar, it is probably going somewhere like Ukraine.
Stay viligant my friends.
Since this is the motivational picture thread, I posted some boobs.
My neighbors think that I am modern, progressive and a forward thinker. New equipment is not part of that.
So now the meat and potatos so to speak:
We as agriculture producers are stuck in a system that enslaves us to create wealth for the same few. We are slaves to John Deere, Monsanto / Bayer, Case IH, Agco, Simplot, Cargill, ADM, etc. Our job is to survive just enough to pass those subsidies on. They are not for the producer, they are for the input supplier. It is a very old shell game. They have no intention of letting us out of debt. Input financing is big buisness for big banks. No different than housing, auto loans, etc. We like the rest of you are controlled and used. You as a consumer and I as a producer are sinking in the same boat. WE ARE PAWNS!
We do not vote democrat and our votes are not bought by subsidies.
Some will say that crop insurance subsidies are a waste. Maybe so in some areas. For my area it is essential. This year and the extreme drought is a perfect example. I have never seen so much headless milo. Years like this those in my area could not financially survive because we still have to launder subsidies to the suppliers who have already stated chemicals next year will be 20 percent higher just because they can.
I dare say if inputs were not so damn high and subsidies were not laundered through the producer........successful farm sizes could be smaller and more posters here who have farm back ground in their families might be farming instead of working in town.
Remember........if I have a dollar in my pocket, I will spend it locally. If a politician has a dollar, it is probably going somewhere like Ukraine.
Stay viligant my friends.
Since this is the motivational picture thread, I posted some boobs.
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Too bad they didn’t buy it in Maryland it would have a 10 year 150,000 mile warranty.
I’ve seen hybrid Toyotas have that problem with low mileage at around 10 years. Apparently if you don’t drive them much the batteries don’t get a workout in they actually die prematurely.
I have seen stuff about earlier volts having issues.
Red touching yellow, will kill a fellow
No picture, but I’ll allow it done out was so eloquently and accurately stated. Now I have to find two pictures to post, to cover you.
Yup, but they are not an aggressive snake. That one was about 24” and we’ve seen them almost 3’ long. Never had a problem with them, even when disturbing one in close proximity. They leave.
They feed primarily on the lizards. I have plenty of lizards and they are welcome to them.
I was slow. Go back and look.No picture, but I’ll allow it done out was so eloquently and accurately stated. Now I have to find two pictures to post, to cover you.
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Your Tax Dollars Subsidizing Scottie Pippen, Ted Turner, and Jon Bon Jovi?
If ever there was a populist blueprint for deficit reduction, this has got to be it.
www.foxnews.com
Old Man,
Read!!!!!!!
