Car Jacking gone wrong

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As authorities were chasing Zanders through Brusly, an Addis Police unit crashed into a vehicle, killing Dunn and Gill, who were not involved in the theft, according to the West Baton Rouge Sheriff's Office.

I think, in this case, the training manual should have been thrown away and the vehicle should have been filled full of lead... ASAP

www.theadvocate.com

Teens killed by Addis police unit during multi-parish chase identified

The two teenage girls killed when an Addis Police unit crashed into their car during a multi-parish police chase of a vehicle theft suspect have been identified.
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Nothing will happen to the uniform wearer who killed 2 people driving recklessly except a little, "please try not to kill people next time, it looks bad in the papers" talk.

And as usual the taxpayers will be on the hook to pay the bill (under threat of those same police taking their property at gun point).
 
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Hobo Hilton said:
How do "We the People" avoid the actions of an idiot ? The ripple effect continues in this terrible situation.

Update:

www.theadvocate.com

Addis police officer to be charged in teens' deaths in crash during chase, DA says

The Addis police officer who struck and killed two teenage girls during a multi-parish police chase of a vehicle theft suspect is being arrested for his role in the Saturday
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The arrest is just for show to appease the public, nothing will happen to the cop……..
 
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So let me see if I"m understanding this situation correctly:

A home invasion
An assault
An auto theft
An escape
A high-speed chase
(one that crosses county/state lines?)
Pursuit by a number of different juristictions/departments
At least one accident/incident by pursuing forces that resulted in at least 2 civilian deaths

And the take-a-way that is being purported is "let them go/don't chase the bad guys"?

In what UNIVERSE is 'let the bastards go...' a good idea? For the rest of society.

How about, "less chasing" and "more shooting at the beginning of the pursuit". Now I'm not going to say "shoot the tires out so that they can't get away, because that is tantamount to 'shooting the gun out of the hostage-takers hand. BUT, either taking out the engine, or taking out the driver themselves would DEFINITELY start getting the point across that 'crime has consequences.'

It has been FAR TOO LONG since crime had a deterrent. Let's actually contemplate making criminal punishment a 'thing' again.
 
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It was not a random house or car. He went into his father's house and took his father's car.
Sean the Nailer said:
So let me see if I"m understanding this situation correctly:

A home invasion
An assault
An auto theft
An escape
A high-speed chase
(one that crosses county/state lines?)
Pursuit by a number of different juristictions/departments
At least one accident/incident by pursuing forces that resulted in at least 2 civilian deaths

And the take-a-way that is being purported is "let them go/don't chase the bad guys"?

In what UNIVERSE is 'let the bastards go...' a good idea? For the rest of society.

How about, "less chasing" and "more shooting at the beginning of the pursuit". Now I'm not going to say "shoot the tires out so that they can't get away, because that is tantamount to 'shooting the gun out of the hostage-takers hand. BUT, either taking out the engine, or taking out the driver themselves would DEFINITELY start getting the point across that 'crime has consequences.'

It has been FAR TOO LONG since crime had a deterrent. Let's actually contemplate making criminal punishment a 'thing' again.
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The title of the thread is a bit misleading.
Yes he took it without permission but that's definitely different than sticking a gun in someone's face and forcing them out of their car and taking off with it. It didn't warrant a 100 plus mph chase putting innocent passengers and the public at risk. 99 out of a hundred the car would have been brought back to the father as soon as it was low on gas.
And Spike Strips
 
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The perp was recently charge with another vehicle theft.

Meanwhile in Chicago .. cops are not allowed to pursue even on foot because .. racism. And thier new law was about to take effect (no bail required on 2nd degree murder, and other violent crimes)

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Illinois Supreme Court Pauses Cash Bail System on Felonies Including Second-Degree Murder and Kidnapping from Taking Effect Today, Jan. 1 | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

The elimination of cash bail in Illinois was set to go into effect on Sunday, January 1, 2023 but the state’s highest court halted the reform on Saturday.
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
It was not a random house or car. He went into his father's house and took his father's car.

The title of the thread is a bit misleading.
Yes he took it without permission but that's definitely different than sticking a gun in someone's face and forcing them out of their car and taking off with it. It didn't warrant a 100 plus mph chase putting innocent passengers and the public at risk. 99 out of a hundred the car would have been brought back to the father as soon as it was low on gas.
And Spike Strips
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Whatever we do, let's just keep it consistent.

I need to know whether I should floor it or pull over when I see those flashing lights.
 
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Sean the Nailer said:
So let me see if I"m understanding this situation correctly:

A home invasion
An assault
An auto theft
An escape
A high-speed chase
(one that crosses county/state lines?)
Pursuit by a number of different juristictions/departments
At least one accident/incident by pursuing forces that resulted in at least 2 civilian deaths

And the take-a-way that is being purported is "let them go/don't chase the bad guys"?

In what UNIVERSE is 'let the bastards go...' a good idea? For the rest of society.

How about, "less chasing" and "more shooting at the beginning of the pursuit". Now I'm not going to say "shoot the tires out so that they can't get away, because that is tantamount to 'shooting the gun out of the hostage-takers hand. BUT, either taking out the engine, or taking out the driver themselves would DEFINITELY start getting the point across that 'crime has consequences.'

It has been FAR TOO LONG since crime had a deterrent. Let's actually contemplate making criminal punishment a 'thing' again.
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Just so I know…..how many innocent people is it ok to kill in pursuit of a felon? 2? 3? 4? or is the answer “as many as it takes…..”
 
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i dunno, but since perp invaded his dad's house and stole his dad's vehicle, i wouldn't chase him.
maybe dad doesn't deserve blame for his own son, but nobody's life should be risked to recover his property. jmo.
 
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7.62willdo said:
Just so I know…..how many innocent people is it ok to kill in pursuit of a felon? 2? 3? 4? or is the answer “as many as it takes…..”
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Many variables -

Did the felon do something to you . . . or someone else?

Will they catch the felon later . . . and what will happen to him when they do?

Were the innocent people killed by the felon . . . or someone (anyone) else?


Like most instances it is very difficult to make laws "black and white" (NOT talking about racism here).
 
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wvfarrier said:
Dept banned Pursuits except for DUI
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Chase the people that are intoxicated so they can’t drive ss well and will do things they wouldn’t sober


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How about we charge the perp they were chasing also with the deaths of these two girls. Cop should be charged also for negligent homicide.

Paid out of his pocket of course, but we all know that won't happen.

Doc
 
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GreenGO Juan said:
the kid had right of way, didn't see/yield to the emergency vehicle.
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A woman near me was going straight on green. Tractor trailer was in left turn lane , stopped. Cop ran the light. Woman hit cop. They ticketed woman. Who couldn’t see to the left where cop came from. Judge said guilty


Kings animals and all that
 
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7.62willdo said:
Just so I know…..how many innocent people is it ok to kill in pursuit of a felon? 2? 3? 4? or is the answer “as many as it takes…..”
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How many crimes/criminals should be ignored and/or set-free/released, because capturing or incarcerating them might be unfashionable to their perceptions?

Is there such a thing anymore as "victims" and do they matter at all? There used to be a thing called:
Right and Wrong
Legal and Illegal
Good and Bad
Just and Unjust
Respect and Indifference
Earnest and Lazy
Worthy and Empathetic

What society do you want to live in? Do you ACTUALLY have a choice? Everything changes when someone calls 9-1-1. The police officers (or fire department or ambulance attendants) only know what the dispatcher tells them, and THAT is only information that is told to the dispatcher to begin with. Go ahead, decide, RIGHT NOW how things should be?
 
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vinniedelpino said:
Whatever we do, let's just keep it consistent.

I need to know whether I should floor it or pull over when I see those flashing lights.
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Not in North Louisiana. Its still a felony and sometimes the local police/sheriff’s deputies are not appreciative of such.
What happens in court, not real proud of some of the results.
 
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Sean the Nailer said:
How many crimes/criminals should be ignored and/or set-free/released, because capturing or incarcerating them might be unfashionable to their perceptions?

Is there such a thing anymore as "victims" and do they matter at all? There used to be a thing called:
Right and Wrong
Legal and Illegal
Good and Bad
Just and Unjust
Respect and Indifference
Earnest and Lazy
Worthy and Empathetic

What society do you want to live in? Do you ACTUALLY have a choice? Everything changes when someone calls 9-1-1. The police officers (or fire department or ambulance attendants) only know what the dispatcher tells them, and THAT is only information that is told to the dispatcher to begin with. Go ahead, decide, RIGHT NOW how things should be?
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It’s not for me to decide, I know let’s ask those two girls to decide………oh wait…
 
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vinniedelpino said:
I need to know whether I should floor it or pull over when I see those flashing lights.
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Since they probably already have your tag number you are probably going to add a few additional items to the ticket. Some of which they will put you in a cage for. So you are better off just stopping.
But if you feel the need to floor it. Make sure you Facebook it live.
 
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Sean the Nailer said:
So let me see if I"m understanding this situation correctly:

A home invasion
An assault
An auto theft
An escape
A high-speed chase
(one that crosses county/state lines?)
Pursuit by a number of different juristictions/departments
At least one accident/incident by pursuing forces that resulted in at least 2 civilian deaths

And the take-a-way that is being purported is "let them go/don't chase the bad guys"?

In what UNIVERSE is 'let the bastards go...' a good idea? For the rest of society.

How about, "less chasing" and "more shooting at the beginning of the pursuit". Now I'm not going to say "shoot the tires out so that they can't get away, because that is tantamount to 'shooting the gun out of the hostage-takers hand. BUT, either taking out the engine, or taking out the driver themselves would DEFINITELY start getting the point across that 'crime has consequences.'

It has been FAR TOO LONG since crime had a deterrent. Let's actually contemplate making criminal punishment a 'thing' again.
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VENTING:
I’m not a big fan of Islamic Justice, having lived in Saudi 25 years ago. BUT, the punishment is pretty swift and sure(in the low/no political cases). Convicted murderers go thru about 6 appeals in as many weeks, and there is the final appeal to the victim‘s family. But seldom more than 3 months after conviction to wacking.
Theft is similar, without restitution and having lost all appeals, wave goodbye one last time to your hand.
And ya know what? The swiftness of punishment allows store owners to leave their shops open / unattended during prayer times.
Try this for 6 months in the US and all this shit goes away.
Thanks for the vent.
 
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Did they not have the tag number, or a helicopter to pursue them or any other amount of pics or videos.

Just how the same way they fucked up with David Koresh.....they could have taken him when he left almost daily, but no they wait until he is at home.......

Doc
 
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Someone probably already said this, but the perp should be charged with involuntary manslaughter since there would not have been a need for a chase had he not stolen a car.

Somewhat odd the police were that hard after him since he “stole” the car from his dad. Seems there might have been a better way to pick this thug up.
 
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Doc68 said:
Did they not have the tag number, or a helicopter to pursue them or any other amount of pics or videos.

Just how the same way they fucked up with David Koresh.....they could have taken him when he left almost daily, but no they wait until he is at home.......

Doc
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Sure, but by then the Tech 9, six kilos of blow and two dead hookers in his trunk would be long gone.
 
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