51st state (Canada)
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I dont want nothing to do with Canada and thier people.
If we take Alberta the entire country will fall... js
Very true! Look up "Equalization Payments"
The money Alberta make from oil pays for the rest of the country. The biggest chunk goes to the french province (where everyone also loses 50% of their paycheck).
His goal is to get Trudeau's party out of power. Even with a different leader, they're still a bunch of climate cultists that want to stop oil production, ban pipelines and stop mineral exploration. They're completely controlled by the WEF. It's likely why Trudeau has to have a second call with Trump. He needs to go back to his WEF handlers to get approval for what he's going to offer Trump. Pierre Poilievre will be FAR better to deal with.
We could call it gay Northern Minnesota, and give everyone there 3/5ths of a vote .
And then I could hunt and fish there without their retarded taxes and regulations- one fish over 18 inches 2 fish under 15 inches no fish between 15 and 18. Or the one I really love - if you bait bears with donuts bread ect there is no limit to the amount - or with popcorn - no limit But if you bait bears with dog food it has to be in a barrel and a 40 pound a day limit - who in fuck thought of that ?
And then I could hunt and fish there without their retarded taxes and regulations- one fish over 18 inches 2 fish under 15 inches no fish between 15 and 18. Or the one I really love - if you bait bears with donuts bread ect there is no limit to the amount - or with popcorn - no limit But if you bait bears with dog food it has to be in a barrel and a 40 pound a day limit - who in fuck thought of that ?
The beauty of this entire trolling saga that Canada's low intelligence leftists, including the ones booing the US National Anthem at sports stadiums recently, fail to realize, is that just by popular sentiment alone, MOST of Canada's flyover country will join the USA immediately given the chance. And once the breadbasket of Canada has seceeded, the leftist enclaves to the east and far west will find themselves in the same situation as Gaza. Isolated, and COMPLETELY reliant on goods and services shipped in by rail and truck to continue surviving.
Have they forgotten about the Freedom Convoy of 2022, where they originated from, and the fact that they have not forgotten about how they were treated by their government? Canada's entire boundary can be changed and redrawn overnight just by a few main breadbasket provinces organizing and declaring sovereignty, followed by application to join the Union. Not a single shot would be fired, unless the leftist ruling elite and their mooks want to challenge a secession petition by force.
Have they forgotten about the Freedom Convoy of 2022, where they originated from, and the fact that they have not forgotten about how they were treated by their government? Canada's entire boundary can be changed and redrawn overnight just by a few main breadbasket provinces organizing and declaring sovereignty, followed by application to join the Union. Not a single shot would be fired, unless the leftist ruling elite and their mooks want to challenge a secession petition by force.
No, he's not serious, it wouldn't work anyway from a government integration perspective. Not even as a Commonwealth / Incorporated Territory.
All of that + Tariffs are to take the Northwest Territories/Yukon/Arctic Circle. Canada lacks the industrial base to extract all of the resources out of their frontiers. Not that our Arctic development is that advanced, but I can see yet another tit-for-tat because if we start to build aluminum mills, expand mining, LNG/Fracking/Offshore Drilling, et al we will increase the trade deficit with them except for maybe lumber, and maple syrup?
When you add that together with the leverage, and the fact that Canada is effectively our Protectorate, we can likely get them to just give us everything near the Arctic circle. When you combine that with Greenland now the Entire Arctic is covered on 3 fronts. If some Fallout universe Alaskan attack were to happen it would fail since now instead of Anchorage you have to contend with Thule and whatever God-awful bases/depots we build up in the Great White North.
Even the most "conservative" Province in Canada is pretty much just Michigan/Wisconsin when it comes to voting demographics. We should be absolutely stupid to incorporate ANY of their territory as a proper state
All of that + Tariffs are to take the Northwest Territories/Yukon/Arctic Circle. Canada lacks the industrial base to extract all of the resources out of their frontiers. Not that our Arctic development is that advanced, but I can see yet another tit-for-tat because if we start to build aluminum mills, expand mining, LNG/Fracking/Offshore Drilling, et al we will increase the trade deficit with them except for maybe lumber, and maple syrup?
When you add that together with the leverage, and the fact that Canada is effectively our Protectorate, we can likely get them to just give us everything near the Arctic circle. When you combine that with Greenland now the Entire Arctic is covered on 3 fronts. If some Fallout universe Alaskan attack were to happen it would fail since now instead of Anchorage you have to contend with Thule and whatever God-awful bases/depots we build up in the Great White North.
Even the most "conservative" Province in Canada is pretty much just Michigan/Wisconsin when it comes to voting demographics. We should be absolutely stupid to incorporate ANY of their territory as a proper state
yea,we defend them just like europe and their contribution is negligible. they are also eaten up with embedded Chinese,like we are. actually wish they would stay up there. the rich ones have been coming down here for decades. waitresses hate them. no or 2% tipping. their driving sucks and FL is over crowded anyway,esp during "the season". loss of snowbird and tourist $s wouldn't hurt my feelings 1 bit. really just leads to price increases for us permanent residents and contributes to the trashing of the state generally.
There are some things in this thread that are accurate, most things are ridiculous, and a few things that are good ideas.
Here's a "new" concept for me to remind y'all of:
The DEW Line.
Who's rocket-surgeon idea was it, to cancel it, stop it, blow it up (each and every location), and bulldoze EVERYTHING into pits?
Here's a "new" concept for me to remind y'all of:
The DEW Line.
Who's rocket-surgeon idea was it, to cancel it, stop it, blow it up (each and every location), and bulldoze EVERYTHING into pits?
Negotiation leverage. Study how he works, it's pretty straightforward.
Jordan Peterson was asked the same question and (as usual) his answer was spot on. I'll see if I can find the video and post it up.
I think it’s both. I think it’s obviously a matter of leverage, but, I think that if Canada bent over enough and Trump saw an opportunity that was small pain to the US, he would very much annex Canada into a territory.
I think it would be low probability he would ever make Canada an actual state though.
I think it would be low probability he would ever make Canada an actual state though.
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I read this to say Canada has went full commie/socialist. Small percentage work to support everyone. Pretty sad state of affairs up there. That's what Dems and Libs want here.
it need to be more than one state… they elected Trudeau… we don’t need that
It's been sad for a long time. The transfer payments have been around for decades. I'm not sure why Alberta stays in Canada. They're treated like dog shit by the eastern provinces, but those provinces couldn't support their spending without getting that money from Alberta oil.
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Be careful what you wish for. Can you handle 30 million more faggot libtard voters? Because that's exactly what you'll get.
You're better off giving Canada Commiefornia and New York, and taking Alberta (Texas North).
You're better off giving Canada Commiefornia and New York, and taking Alberta (Texas North).
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I believe he is trolling the media and liberals. Alberta would be a good addition to the US.
You gotta realize, this statement above essentially says that "you" voted for the oBOMBination, twice. And then capped that off by voting for oBIDEn, three-or-four times in one go.
All the sudden, things aren't quite what they seem, eh?
Honestly, who the fuck wants Canada. Basically, the eastern half of this frozen bucket of shit is filled with assholes who did not support the American revolution. Tens of thousands of Brits packed their shit and moved north after years of treason and rat-fucking the Continental Army and George Washington. Then you have an entire province of French speaking morons and do we need a few million cheese-eating surrender monkeys? I vote Hell no. The further north you go, the more welfare it costs to get unemployed tundra losers through the winter. Yeah, once you hit Alberta you find some useful natural resources and some decent people who love freedom, guns, hunting and eat beef at every meal but that tapers off drastically as you hit the B.C. cunts and assholes and their Chinese masters. The fucking Chinese Communist Party owns British Columbia outright. Even Bigfoot stays out of the province because he has too much respect for himself.
Imagine adding tens of millions of social welfare assholes who contribute almost nothing to the greater good of a new nation that goes to the North Pole. 2/3rds of these assholes are worse than democrats. Let them stay a worthless, retarded northern cousin.
Imagine adding tens of millions of social welfare assholes who contribute almost nothing to the greater good of a new nation that goes to the North Pole. 2/3rds of these assholes are worse than democrats. Let them stay a worthless, retarded northern cousin.
No state... They don't get 2 senate seats.
They can be a territory.
They can be a territory.
The real problem most people are overlooking is that Canada has failed to maintain its own air defense posture for its airspace, and doesn’t fulfill its NORAD obligations. So the US’s Northern corridor is open to foreign attack, and the Arctic isn’t defended or policed well.
The retarded male feminists and women in Canadian parliament have gutted their military so badly, that they can’t even pilot 50% of their broken, clapped-out CF-18A/B Hornets.
It gets worse: Those Hornets were bought in Reagan’s first term in the early 1980s, so they have exceeded their service lives by over a decade now. The few pilots they do have hardly get to fly, because the birds are always broken, leaking fluids all over, Radars don’t work, structures limit how many Gs they can pull, loads they can carry, etc.
They were already way behind the power curve in Allied Force in Yugoslavia, so couldn’t even contribute much to the Allied Air Component forces in the mid-1990s. This isn’t me saying this, it’s straight from a RCAF Hornet Squadron commander.
The Chinese have been bribing and buying-off Canadian Parliamentarians for decades now, including Trudeau.
Remember that Trudeau ran on the campaign promise of cancelling Canada’s acquisition of F-35s, which RCAF and Parliament had already decided on. They brought that retard, Pierre Sprey, onto Canada 60 minutes to do the hit piece to confirm the stupid Trdueau treason. This set RCAF back even further than their already-sorry state.
Now the retards are talking about backing out of F-35 acquisition again, which is exactly what the Chicoms and Russians want to happen.
What people don’t realize is that the USAF/RCAF F-35 fleet is to provide strategic ISR for NORAD, with USAF Alaska connecting with RCAF and USAF ANG Vermont to provide a giant Northern Hemisphere constant ISR presence that far exceeds the capabilities of legacy ISR platforms like AWACS and some of the RC-XXXs.
This is why Trudeau’s treason is so damaging to the NORAD alliance between the US and Canada.
You can also see why Trump’s statements about Greenland are strategically-significant. He’s operating at a level of being correctly-informed like no other US President, because he basically ignored the compromised CIA-driven PDB, and leans on superior intelligence from patriots who actually care about National Defense.
The retarded male feminists and women in Canadian parliament have gutted their military so badly, that they can’t even pilot 50% of their broken, clapped-out CF-18A/B Hornets.
It gets worse: Those Hornets were bought in Reagan’s first term in the early 1980s, so they have exceeded their service lives by over a decade now. The few pilots they do have hardly get to fly, because the birds are always broken, leaking fluids all over, Radars don’t work, structures limit how many Gs they can pull, loads they can carry, etc.
They were already way behind the power curve in Allied Force in Yugoslavia, so couldn’t even contribute much to the Allied Air Component forces in the mid-1990s. This isn’t me saying this, it’s straight from a RCAF Hornet Squadron commander.
The Chinese have been bribing and buying-off Canadian Parliamentarians for decades now, including Trudeau.
Remember that Trudeau ran on the campaign promise of cancelling Canada’s acquisition of F-35s, which RCAF and Parliament had already decided on. They brought that retard, Pierre Sprey, onto Canada 60 minutes to do the hit piece to confirm the stupid Trdueau treason. This set RCAF back even further than their already-sorry state.
Now the retards are talking about backing out of F-35 acquisition again, which is exactly what the Chicoms and Russians want to happen.
What people don’t realize is that the USAF/RCAF F-35 fleet is to provide strategic ISR for NORAD, with USAF Alaska connecting with RCAF and USAF ANG Vermont to provide a giant Northern Hemisphere constant ISR presence that far exceeds the capabilities of legacy ISR platforms like AWACS and some of the RC-XXXs.
This is why Trudeau’s treason is so damaging to the NORAD alliance between the US and Canada.
You can also see why Trump’s statements about Greenland are strategically-significant. He’s operating at a level of being correctly-informed like no other US President, because he basically ignored the compromised CIA-driven PDB, and leans on superior intelligence from patriots who actually care about National Defense.
Canada doesn't fulfill it's NATO obligations either. And not just by a little. For example, Canada is supposed to provide 4 batteries of M777s for the defense of Europe (96 guns), but only had 37 of them. And this was before giving 4 to Ukraine. In all likelihood, a good number of them (maybe all) have shot out barrels and are totally useless. And it's like that for everything, CAF equipment is lacking and what they do have is falling apart. Regular army is still running WWII Browning Hi-Powers and HAVE to carry them Israeli style (chamber empty) because the safeties on them can't be trusted.
As a dual citizen of both countries - hard no.
Canada is full of freedom hating euro wannabe cucks.
Canada is full of freedom hating euro wannabe cucks.
Canada like a weak cuck, deserves to get its shit pushed in for its loud mouth and posturing on the international stage.
They talk alot of shit for a "nation" that cannot defend itself let alone conduct anything resembling offensive military operations.
I am 1000% confident a few national guard brigades could conquer Canada in a month, maybe less. I'm talking weekend warrior plumbers, electricians , truck driver and fry cooks.
Might is right and they have zero. The only thing that protects them is our good graces. The more they start chirping the deeper that eagle dick is going to bottom that ass. They are biting off way more than they can chew and the economic pain is just the start. Keep fucking around and see what happens. The gloves haven't even come off yet.
They need to step back and reevaluate their positions and if they had any sense or reason, would start asking what they could do to come back into our good graces. Bend the knee and ask for forgiveness. And then we can talk.
They talk alot of shit for a "nation" that cannot defend itself let alone conduct anything resembling offensive military operations.
I am 1000% confident a few national guard brigades could conquer Canada in a month, maybe less. I'm talking weekend warrior plumbers, electricians , truck driver and fry cooks.
Might is right and they have zero. The only thing that protects them is our good graces. The more they start chirping the deeper that eagle dick is going to bottom that ass. They are biting off way more than they can chew and the economic pain is just the start. Keep fucking around and see what happens. The gloves haven't even come off yet.
They need to step back and reevaluate their positions and if they had any sense or reason, would start asking what they could do to come back into our good graces. Bend the knee and ask for forgiveness. And then we can talk.
When NATO partner nations rotate the Icelandic ADIZ air policing alert fighter requirement, I don’t think they even include RCAF anymore. Last evidence I can find of it was from 2017, which was more of a PR stunt than anything.
They don’t have modern Radars, and our latest versions of the AIM-120D out-range the APG-65’s detection and tracking capabilities.
RCAF even acquired RAAF and USMC Hornets as a stop-gap, because of the Trudeau treason and fighter gap placed on them.
If you’re buying clapped-out USMC Baby Hornets, you are basically turning tricks in a herpes-infested ghetto whore alley for wooden nickels.
They don’t have modern Radars, and our latest versions of the AIM-120D out-range the APG-65’s detection and tracking capabilities.
RCAF even acquired RAAF and USMC Hornets as a stop-gap, because of the Trudeau treason and fighter gap placed on them.
If you’re buying clapped-out USMC Baby Hornets, you are basically turning tricks in a herpes-infested ghetto whore alley for wooden nickels.
To think if they wern't cheap fucking idiotic communist wannabes, they could have been a tier 1 partner and not only got into the F35 early and cheap, but it could have been a new economic gain for them as a manufacturing powerhouse for parts of the aircraft. It would advance their aerospace and manufacturing capabilities.
It would be much more strategically safe for parts to be made here instead of Europe from the US point of view.
In the end their costs would be lower, less maintenance, wouldn't need as many air frames and pilots, maintainers and could probably use US Mil and DOD contract services for alot of the depot level shit to keep infrastructure costs down on their end.
At this point they would be much better off investing in ADA and land based radars. They will never be willing to field enough fighters to make much of a difference anyway unless they gut their social programs.
I know it sounds ludicrous and insane, but the best thing that could ever happen to Canada, is it being absorbed into the US. Their economy would skyrocket, their purchasing power would increase, their healthcare quality would go up and taxes would go down.
The US already has one worthless fucking liability on our southenr border, we don't need 2 worthless fucks surrounding us.
It would be much more strategically safe for parts to be made here instead of Europe from the US point of view.
In the end their costs would be lower, less maintenance, wouldn't need as many air frames and pilots, maintainers and could probably use US Mil and DOD contract services for alot of the depot level shit to keep infrastructure costs down on their end.
At this point they would be much better off investing in ADA and land based radars. They will never be willing to field enough fighters to make much of a difference anyway unless they gut their social programs.
I know it sounds ludicrous and insane, but the best thing that could ever happen to Canada, is it being absorbed into the US. Their economy would skyrocket, their purchasing power would increase, their healthcare quality would go up and taxes would go down.
The US already has one worthless fucking liability on our southenr border, we don't need 2 worthless fucks surrounding us.
Canada already has a huge laundry list of defense subcontractors who have been making parts for the program for the better part of the last 15 years. Canada has engineers and technicians who have far higher levels of education and training than most other parts of the world, so they are a more secure and reliable parts manufacturer with no oceans to ship the parts over as you said.
Canadian communist press never mentions any of this in their hit pieces, but one thing is clear. Chicoms and Russians do not want Canada to fulfill their commitment to the F-35 program.
Canadian communist press never mentions any of this in their hit pieces, but one thing is clear. Chicoms and Russians do not want Canada to fulfill their commitment to the F-35 program.
Oh that makes perfect sense. Just a continuation of Socialist/Communist funding adversaries media and politicians to kill programs that threaten them. Its way cheaper, easier and more effective than trying to compete with the programs. Something the Soviets had to learn the hard way.
The F35 while having problems like any emerging tech program, was attacked non stop trying to kill it. Its one of if not the biggest threats to China to have a cheap, plentiful, fully networked stealth aircraft that can act as an AWACS and targeting aircraft as well as EW and some other shit I have heard rumors of. And there are going to be about 2500 of them, probably more once more nations come onboard. One big network.
Any time you see lots of media and stories about some US defense program; especially from the likes of Business Insider, Reuters, AP and the rest of the usual travellers, chances are its because its that good and our adversaries are funding those articles to try and kill it.
Its crazy but a new F-35 is cheaper than the latest block F-18 or F-15, and not much more than a latest block F-16. And its 2 generations ahead of them all capabilities wise.
Canada could be rocking a few dozen of these instead of shit that was obsolete in the 1990s.
The F35 while having problems like any emerging tech program, was attacked non stop trying to kill it. Its one of if not the biggest threats to China to have a cheap, plentiful, fully networked stealth aircraft that can act as an AWACS and targeting aircraft as well as EW and some other shit I have heard rumors of. And there are going to be about 2500 of them, probably more once more nations come onboard. One big network.
Any time you see lots of media and stories about some US defense program; especially from the likes of Business Insider, Reuters, AP and the rest of the usual travellers, chances are its because its that good and our adversaries are funding those articles to try and kill it.
Its crazy but a new F-35 is cheaper than the latest block F-18 or F-15, and not much more than a latest block F-16. And its 2 generations ahead of them all capabilities wise.
Canada could be rocking a few dozen of these instead of shit that was obsolete in the 1990s.
Shit that was obsolete in the 1990s is the newest "cutting edge" stuff in the CAF.
Yeah, all the corporate/Mockingbird media “journalist” firms have run very intense anti-F-35 articles for the last 15 years.
It’s funny, because if Mockingbird was supposed to promote US propaganda and friendly articles to the US, why are they all anti-US? Because the Soviets co-opted Mockingbird out of the gate in the late 1940s when Frank Wisner started it.
First thing that jumped out to me about F-35s was safety. Keep in mind I was used to being around F-4s, F-111s, F-106s, F-15s, F-16s, etc. at AFFTC at Edwards, and have been somewhat aware of mishap rates and fatalities. I started tracking total airframe losses and fatalities out of curiosity, and it’s far worse than anyone ever wants to admit.
Our safest single engine fighter was the F-16. In its first 10 years of operational service, we lost 143 airframes with 71 fatalities. It was far better than the F-100, F-102, F-104, F-106, and even the twin-engined F-4. Soviet losses were far worse than ours when you look at MiG-15, MiG-17, MiG-19, MiG-21, MiG-23, MiG-25, and later MiG-29 and Su-27 Flanker series, through the Flankers aren’t as bad as legacy Russian trash.
We have built 1140 F-35s so far of all 3 variants, flying over 1 million fleet flight hours across at least 12 different services around the world. That includes F-35Cs operating off carriers, F-35Bs operations off LHDs, and F-35As in various regions, to include many combat sorties penetrating deep into heavily-defended IADS networks in Syria, Iran, and Yemen.
First flight of the F-35A was Dec 2006, almost 19 years ago. F-35B first flight was Dec 2008, and F-35C was June 2010 I think.
F-35A: 5 airframe write-offs, 1 fatality in JADF in 2019 (Japanese pilot had some type of incident, where he went nose down from high altitude, and made no attempts to recover before plowing into the ocean.)
F-35B: 5 write-offs, 0 fatalities after over a decade of maritime validation and deployment ops all over the world. Crazy
F-35C: 1 write-off, younger pilot wanted to execute a SH turn break behind the carrier because the jet is so easy to land, ramp-struck and fragmented it all over the deck, inuring several personnel.
Within the first 10 years of the F-14A’s history, they had 73 crashes and 19 fatalities, which was an amazing safety record compared to the F-4B/J.
We have never seen such a safe single engine jet aircraft in the history of aviation, let alone fighters. Fighters are inherently a risky business with pretty high mishap rates and fatalities, as you can see. Not so with F-35s, even off carriers.
It’s funny, because if Mockingbird was supposed to promote US propaganda and friendly articles to the US, why are they all anti-US? Because the Soviets co-opted Mockingbird out of the gate in the late 1940s when Frank Wisner started it.
First thing that jumped out to me about F-35s was safety. Keep in mind I was used to being around F-4s, F-111s, F-106s, F-15s, F-16s, etc. at AFFTC at Edwards, and have been somewhat aware of mishap rates and fatalities. I started tracking total airframe losses and fatalities out of curiosity, and it’s far worse than anyone ever wants to admit.
Our safest single engine fighter was the F-16. In its first 10 years of operational service, we lost 143 airframes with 71 fatalities. It was far better than the F-100, F-102, F-104, F-106, and even the twin-engined F-4. Soviet losses were far worse than ours when you look at MiG-15, MiG-17, MiG-19, MiG-21, MiG-23, MiG-25, and later MiG-29 and Su-27 Flanker series, through the Flankers aren’t as bad as legacy Russian trash.
We have built 1140 F-35s so far of all 3 variants, flying over 1 million fleet flight hours across at least 12 different services around the world. That includes F-35Cs operating off carriers, F-35Bs operations off LHDs, and F-35As in various regions, to include many combat sorties penetrating deep into heavily-defended IADS networks in Syria, Iran, and Yemen.
First flight of the F-35A was Dec 2006, almost 19 years ago. F-35B first flight was Dec 2008, and F-35C was June 2010 I think.
F-35A: 5 airframe write-offs, 1 fatality in JADF in 2019 (Japanese pilot had some type of incident, where he went nose down from high altitude, and made no attempts to recover before plowing into the ocean.)
F-35B: 5 write-offs, 0 fatalities after over a decade of maritime validation and deployment ops all over the world. Crazy
F-35C: 1 write-off, younger pilot wanted to execute a SH turn break behind the carrier because the jet is so easy to land, ramp-struck and fragmented it all over the deck, inuring several personnel.
Within the first 10 years of the F-14A’s history, they had 73 crashes and 19 fatalities, which was an amazing safety record compared to the F-4B/J.
We have never seen such a safe single engine jet aircraft in the history of aviation, let alone fighters. Fighters are inherently a risky business with pretty high mishap rates and fatalities, as you can see. Not so with F-35s, even off carriers.
It’s not about wanting Canada, it’s about a neighbor who promised to guard the north flank of the neighborhood, even when we foot the bill for his weapons development, but then he cut spending on neighborhood defense so badly that we have to step in now.
It’s literally a matter of National security. Trump knows the Canadian parliamentarians who are on Chicom payroll, so the sooner Canada bends the knee, the better it will be for them.
Or we could just leak the names to the sectarian violence-prone Sikhs and Indians they have imported by the boatloads, and see how they like Chicom traitors ruling over them.
It’s literally a matter of National security. Trump knows the Canadian parliamentarians who are on Chicom payroll, so the sooner Canada bends the knee, the better it will be for them.
Or we could just leak the names to the sectarian violence-prone Sikhs and Indians they have imported by the boatloads, and see how they like Chicom traitors ruling over them.
Regular army has P320s now, not that they're going to win a war with them or anything.
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