Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

So much clutter. Time to post some of these scary redheads so I can finally delete them.

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Homely Depot huh ? :unsure:

Too much of a coincidence to not be. We had the same experience(s). Their supplier is pretty inept. Multiple instances of pieces being cut wrong/backwards. The estimator/guy taking the measurements and the installers were great.

The supplier finally got it right, but a two day install took something like 3.5 or 4 months to finally get it all done.

I place HD in the same class as Walmart. Not on my go to list.

Independent business. Great reviews, in business for decades, etc.

I’ve already told him if he cannot finish Monday, don’t bother coming.

I used a HD or Lowes (don’t recall) contractor once about 25 years ago. Never again.
 
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I used a HD or Lowes (don’t recall) contractor once about 25 years ago. Never again.

I used a Lowe's contractor about a dozen years ago for a run of fence about 30 feet in length. Fancy poly-panel stuff.

The guy showed up to get the deets then turned down the job. Too small. Big fence company looking for big fence leads not small homeowner projects.

I bitched at Lowe's about it and they put the screws to the guy to do the job.

He did it, he did a good job but now I'm forever leary of Lowe's contractors and he probably pulled his name from the contractor hat.
 
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I place HD in the same class as Walmart. Not on my go to list.

Independent business. Great reviews, in business for decades, etc.

I’ve already told him if he cannot finish Monday, don’t bother coming.

I used a HD or Lowes (don’t recall) contractor once about 25 years ago. Never again.
Keep in mind that a lot of those "Independent businesses" also farm out to HD and Lowes. If their business is slow, they have to keep their guys/crews working.

We're in the middle of a remodel presently. We've had a contractor and a plumber come in to give us quotes on various things. We basically kicked both of them out after they gave us ridiculous quotes. The Trades have been quite busy lately and the contractors are creatures of opportunity/low hanging fruit. If you're looking to have reasonable work done for reasonable prices, you go to the back of the bus.

Don't be surprised if your guy just doesn't show up.
 
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Had granite. Scratch and chip too easy. We talked about the hot pot deal. She said, “I don’t do it now, why would I start?”

I wanted a darker color, she wanted light. We compromised and got light.

They started the bathrooms yesterday. As well as the kitchen went, this has been a total clusterfuck. One sink hole cut in the wrong place, did not account for an electric outlet, backsplashes wrong size. Won’t be back before Monday. Wife has a hen party this Sunday. I’m spending a lot of time loading ammo and (re)cleaning guns. Just trying to stay out of the crossfire.
Just finished the bathrooms and kitchen remodel…

I Wish you luck, and if I knew where u was I’d send you a case of coors light to help you out. Our house was a disaster for about a month. Luckily everything went well and no BS issues.
 
I'd laugh harder if the whole thing was caused by HVAC. Those guys are the bane of structural integrity. I don't know what they teach them, but I do know it's not "Ask the carpenter before you hack shit out of your way." I've never had another trade do anything careless without talking to me first. It's the norm for HVAC.
Plumbers are way worse than HVAC, and at least the HVAC guys can read. Many plumbers are on par with roofers for IQ. There should be an IQ test before the sell you a sawzall.
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There are good contractors out there, they most likely are the ones you guys think are overpriced but like anything you get what you pay for. If you paid for better contractors you wouldn't have the issues that you are experiencing.
The plumber that we called quoted $4,000.00 to install two new shower valves (supplied by us). Probably an hour's work on each one, if that. The walls were already open and we did/will do all the rest of the work. He also quoted $900.00 to replumb the drain(s) (not the supply lines) with disposal on a double farmhouse kitchen sink. If he was slow, it would have been two hours.

Uhhhh, no. This guy didn't even come remotely close to fitting your description.
 
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The plumber that we called quoted $4,000.00 to install two new shower valves (supplied by us). Probably an hour's work on each one, if that. The walls were open and we did/will do all the rest of the work. He also quoted $900.00 to replumb the drain(s) (not the supply lines) with disposal on a double farmhouse kitchen sink. If he was slow, it would have been two hours.

Uhhhh, no. This guy didn't even come remotely close to fitting your description.
Cause the supply is so short and demand so high. They can quote like that and stay busy
 
Plumbers are way worse than HVAC, and at least the HVAC guys can read. Many plumbers are on par with roofers for IQ. There should be an IQ test before the sell you a sawzall.
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I've seen hundreds of times that the house gets under roof and the buyers come in and want walls moved, bathrooms rearranged, stairways moved and doorways changed. Contractor says okay without any concerns or consulting with the subs and then everything lines up with floor trusses/joists.
 
There are good contractors out there, they most likely are the ones you guys think are overpriced but like anything you get what you pay for. If you paid for better contractors you wouldn't have the issues that you are experiencing.
My dad had a plumbing contractor in Kalispell MT come out and replace a toilet, vanity, sink, 1 angle stop, the shower valve and two faucets. The guy was on site less than 6 hours total. When dad got the invoice it was for, the toilet, 20 hours of labor, 3 round trips of drive time to and from the contractors parts warehouse, 8 angle stops, and 20 feet of copper pipe. I supplied the vanity, sink and faucets. He was supposed to bring the toilet, the second round trip they charged was for him to go back into town and get the toilet. The third round trip was to come back the next day because he didn't crimp two of the connection on the shower valve. The guy used maybe 1 foot of copper pipe, only changed 1 angle stop and got all of the work done in one day, except having to come back and crimp two lines the next day. When I called the owner of the plumbing company he got really indignant with me. I asked how he could charge for 20 hours when the guy was on site less than 6 hours. I also asked how he could charge for 8 angle stops when he only replaced 1, why he charged for 20 feet of pipe, and why is he charging to come back the next day when it was his fault for not crimping two lines.

My dad has been lettering this plumbing company's trucks and doing all of their signs for many years and the response I got from the owner of the company was "I don't have time to deal with this kind of shit". Is it any wonder they are the most expensive and have the lowest Yelp rating of any plumbing contractor in the Flathead Valley.
 
My dad had a plumbing contractor in Kalispell MT come out and replace a toilet, vanity, sink, 1 angle stop, the shower valve and two faucets. The guy was on site less than 6 hours total. When dad got the invoice it was for, the toilet, 20 hours of labor, 3 round trips of drive time to and from the contractors parts warehouse, 8 angle stops, and 20 feet of copper pipe. I supplied the vanity, sink and faucets. He was supposed to bring the toilet, the second round trip they charged was for him to go back into town and get the toilet. The third round trip was to come back the next day because he didn't crimp two of the connection on the shower valve. The guy used maybe 1 foot of copper pipe, only changed 1 angle stop and got all of the work done in one day, except having to come back and crimp two lines the next day. When I called the owner of the plumbing company he got really indignant with me. I asked how he could charge for 20 hours when the guy was on site less than 6 hours. I also asked how he could charge for 8 angle stops when he only replaced 1, why he charged for 20 feet of pipe, and why is he charging to come back the next day when it was his fault for not crimping two lines.

My dad has been lettering this plumbing company's trucks and doing all of their signs for many years and the response I got from the owner of the company was "I don't have time to deal with this kind of shit". Is it any wonder they are the most expensive and have the lowest Yelp rating of any plumbing contractor in the Flathead Valley.
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I've seen hundreds of times that the house gets under roof and the buyers come in and want walls moved, bathrooms rearranged, stairways moved and doorways changed. Contractor says okay without any concerns or consulting with the subs and then everything lines up with floor trusses/joists.
I can relocate joists. You just need to talk to me before you butcher your way to where you need to go. I was a remodeling carpenter for about 10 years of my career. Anything can be done. It's gonna cost the homeowners some money, but it can be done. In all honesty, when I worked in the Madison Wisconsin area, all the other trades knew to come ask me before they cut into structure. Or to talk over a plan to get where they needed to go. Except HVAC of course.. they only stand out because they were literally the only trade with multiple problems. In other areas of the state and country it could be anyone.
 
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