Ingenuity Powder System

[Schütze]

Out of curiosity, are you going to use it on another scale?

Yes, there are some deals on eBay sometimes. It’s very well worth it to have a second option, even if you keep it just for a backup.

I also have to consider how many upgrades I have in the V3 money wise…

It’s more than a new system now. First all the area 419 goodie’s and now Paul’s ingenuity parts.

 

[parshal]

Yeah, I've lost track of what is V3 original and 419 parts. All I know is I have a V3-style system that works. LOL

 

[4O6shootist]

Yes, there are some deals on eBay sometimes. It’s very well worth it to have a second option, even if you keep it just for a backup.

I also have to consider how many upgrades I have in the V3 money wise…

It’s more than a new system now. First all the area 419 goodie’s and now Paul’s ingenuity parts.

So you can integrate the v3 dropper into the ingenuity mount? Or is that your own colab?

 

[Schütze]

So you can integrate the v3 dropper into the ingenuity mount? Or is that your own colab?

Yes, Paul sells all the parts. Many have purchased them already.
It’s a great upgrade, the electronics work way better, for both thrower and trickler.

Just as one example, it’s running a calibration for the trickler taking in consideration what disk is installed (# of cutouts) and can dop kernels precisely counted.

Forgot to mention, no more bouncing kernels either!

 

[secondofangle2]

I’m thinking of keeping my V4 for ball powders and small extruded. And yes, I would put it on a second scale.

 

[padom]

I’m thinking of keeping my V4 for ball powders and small extruded. And yes, I would put it on a second scale.

Thats what I use my second A&D, V3 thrower and V3 trickler for... ball powders....

 

[Kadams1563]

When this thing ships in 2027 it’s going to be amazing!

 

[secondofangle2]

Careful, you will get banned for “ shitting on a technical thread” with comments like that

 

[nalye]

Paul wrote to me in an email that it'll be "close around June". Let's just hope for the best.

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

^you really think so? many dudes appear to be beholden to their V3s

I mean, the v3 with IP works pretty dang well so I could see many keeping it. I don't think think I will end up getting rid of mine and will probably just keep it for a back up.

 

[Cascade Hemi]

I'll probably sell mine once the IP dropper is proven. I haven't made up my mind though.

 

[Sooner Sniper]

As much demand as there appears to be for the V3 dropper, you would think AT would produce and sell some more.

 

[padom]

Ill be selling 1 of my 2 V3 thrower once I get my IP dumper.. im keeping 1 for my ball powder setup.

 

[Sooner Sniper]

Padom, I'd be happy to buy it

 

[Sooner Sniper]

I'm pretty sure I will be relegated to the 2nd run of IP droppers as I was a bit late to the party on the pre-order. I have all the other IP parts already, but I will likely be waiting a bit longer than others here to see the IP dropper.

 

[popeye089]

keeping mine also

 

[Baron23]

Paul wrote to me in an email that it'll be "close around June". Let's just hope for the best.

Are you saying his last ship date of May is now June or am I miss reading this? Thanks

 

[vh20]

Are you saying his last ship date of May is now June or am I miss reading this? Thanks

That's what I read, actually not even June - just "close" in June.

 

[Bevo]

Paul wrote to me in an email that it'll be "close around June."

"Two weeks to slow the spread."

 

[HemiPowrd]

Paul wrote to me in an email that it'll be "close around June". Let's just hope for the best.

For the first round of orders or the second round?

 

[Sooner Sniper]

Hopefully he got all of his parts stateside before the tariffs went into effect

 

[nalye]

For the first round of orders or the second round?

The first one. I am like #15 down the line.

 

[Baron23]

That's what I read, actually not even June - just "close" in June.

This ^^ deserved another skeleton....FFS. I'm 72 and wondering if I'll live long enough to see this product ship. Wow

 

[Cascade Hemi]

This ^^ deserved another skeleton....FFS. I'm 72 and wondering if I'll live long enough to see this product ship. Wow

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Put your pre-order number in your will.

 

[Sooner Sniper]

The tariffs could be a big problem. I have a friend who has about $100K worth of parts sitting in port that were ordered long before the tariffs were even a consideration. He now owes $105K in tariffs on those parts because they arrived in port after the tariffs went into effect. He's fighting the battle but has no idea when or if he will get any relief. Hopefully whatever parts Paul had coming from China are already here.

 

[secondofangle2]

Wait. I thought the point of the tariffs was so that we would just make everything in the USA.

Paul should just make all those parts in the USA. Shouldn’t be a problem

 

[FNG1001]

The tariffs could be a big problem. I have a friend who has about $100K worth of parts sitting in port that were ordered long before the tariffs were even a consideration. He now owes $105K in tariffs on those parts because they arrived in port after the tariffs went into effect. He's fighting the battle but has no idea when or if he will get any relief. Hopefully whatever parts Paul had coming from China are already here.

2 years waiting on preorder for made in china parts ?

 

[Sooner Sniper]

I don't know what parts are sourced from China, but Paul did make a reference to the Chinese New Year causing delays in a previous email, so something is coming from there.

I suspect the electronics package was coming from China, and those are already here. Hopefully the rest is sourced in the states.

 

[oldrifleman]

Wait. I thought the point of the tariffs was so that we would just make everything in the USA.

Paul should just make all those parts in the USA. Shouldn’t be a problem

The point of the tariffs is to bring in money and even the trading field. That which is gone is gone

 

[straightshooter1]

The point of the tariffs is to bring in money and even the trading field. That which is gone is gone

Hmmm???

The point of tariffs is to make imports more expensive thereby reducing the demand for imports. The importer pays the import tariff/fee (essentially a tax by another name) and passes the cost onto the customer resulting in higher consumer cost. By reducing the demand for imports, the result is a higher demand for locally produce products since they become more competitive. . . assuming local products might be cheaper than the imports with the added tariff cost.

This is a big issue for small businesses, like Paul's, that are already on a small profit margin and have no way to offset the increase in their costs and keep their product affordable. I guess we'll be seeing where this all goes for him.

Tariffs do provide revenue to the government of the importer. But will that revenue be used to help those small businesses?

 

[oldrifleman]

Hmmm???

The point of tariffs is to make imports more expensive thereby reducing the demand for imports. The importer pays the import tariff/fee (essentially a tax by another name) and passes the cost onto the customer resulting in higher consumer cost. By reducing the demand for imports, the result is a higher demand for locally produce products since they become more competitive. . . assuming local products might be cheaper than the imports with the added tariff cost.

This is a big issue for small businesses, like Paul's, that are already on a small profit margin and have no way to offset the increase in their costs and keep their product affordable. I guess we'll be seeing where this all goes for him.

Tariffs do provide revenue to the government of the importer. But will that revenue be used to help those small businesses?

Well trump stated during the campaign that he would reduce income tax and replace it with import duties as was common before world war something. And of course small business won’t see a cent of it.

 

[straightshooter1]

Well trump stated during the campaign that he would reduce income tax and replace it with import duties as was common before world war something. And of course small business won’t see a cent of it.

If I recall my history lessons correctly, income tax was introduced because revenue from tariffs wasn't working very well.

 

[oldrifleman]

If I recall my history lessons correctly, income tax was introduced because revenue from tariffs wasn't working very well.

You remember correctly, but why confuse people with truth

 

[ma smith]

If I recall my history lessons correctly, income tax was introduced because revenue from tariffs wasn't working very well.

"very well" being no-infinite growth of taxation

Income tax means govt' spending 100% grows lock step with GDP (ie inflation), and never tapers off...ie, no matter how "well it works"...as long as revenues go up, taxes go up...

Thus infinite "jobs" for whoever captures the .gov bureacracy...which is stupid business deal for anyone (eg taxpayers) to ever agree to...

Unless you are sucking the tit of the .gov (consultants, politicians, etc)