Rifle Scopes Any of yall ever use a Lucid 6-24x50

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    #1
    Alright I searched and couldnt find anything so have any of yall ever used a Lucid 6-24x50 optic? Been looking for something to put on my trainer(10/22) and this looks like it may be a good option, but havent heard much about it. Any help is appreciated.

    All Ive found is two 1-1.5 min youtube videos of guys using them at 600 yards

    http://www.mylucidgear.com/riflescope.php
     
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    #3
    I know I dont need that much magnification, but just reading the info does it sound like it may be a good optic? Guys out of wyoming I believe, people say his red dots good just cant find anything on the 6-24
     
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    #6
    Well that blows...guess all the reviews for the hd7 were short term lol....I didnt want the red dot anyway so that ok, but its swaying me away from lucid I think.
     
    #7
    I currently have a request into Lucid to do a trial on this scope. I will let you know what I find out. Hopefully, they will be responsive, and I will be able to get you some good solid answers to all the questions that are normally asked. We will see.

    DK
     
    #9
    Cool sound like a good deal. itll be a little while before I get anything anyway. just started a new job and things are SLOOOOW
     
    #10
    1/8" adjustments make for a lot of knob turning if you are shooting the 10/22 past 50yds. Don't understand why they put 1/8" clicks after reading the description paragraph on their website (http://www.mylucidgear.com/riflescope.php).

    "We approached this product development seeking candid and detailed feedback from real shooters law enforcement and military professionals as well as competitive and recreational shooters alike. We took all of the requests and balanced them out in a long list of our own development priorities"

    how many from that feedback asked for 1/8" adjustments?

    It may be a great scope, but if they are pushing the tactical look, almost a nightforce copy in looks, why fine (br-type) adjustments?
    and how about a zoom pic of the reticle and the measurements on it?

    IMO, spend your money on a more reputable company that is proven. Cameraland has the vortex viper 6.5-20x44 with the v-plex for $279.99 delivered. I have had three of the vipers in this mag range and they were all excellent for the price. And if you ever have a problem, it's vortex, they will make it right. Oh, and cameraland is great to deal with.
     
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    #11
    To me, Vortex is the best value in scopes out there, and the warranty is second to none. Which is the biggest reason why that is the scope I choose.

    I only sent in the request about the scope, due to the number of questions that I have seen. For the money, if it proves itself, it could be an option.

    DK
     
    #12
    Sent an email to Lucid asking for some more info, mostly the 1/8 vs 1/4 vs mrad, and questions on the reticle. I told them the pic of the reticle on the site with the measurements was so tiny that nothing could be made out and if he would send me a larger picture of it I would post it here. No reticle info was sent back to me. I also noticed that this scope only has 50 moa of elevation. I dont have a 338lm (and dont plan on getting one), but how much elevation would be needed to get it to 1760 (I would guess he has a 30-40moa base, and about 70moa would probably get you there with a 338lm from what I have read)? I'm skeptical that the glass in a $400scope is good enough to shoot at that distance? those of you with experience please chime in and correct me where needed, and your thoughts on the reply. Here is the reply I received (good turnaround on the reply though):




    Thank you for the interest in LUCID.

    Currently the L5 is planned to remain as a 1/8MOA adjustable optic.

    MRAD VS MOA is an age old discussion.
    For most shooters, MOA simplifies the math and makes the ballistic drop a more easily understandable concept.

    This Shot Show, Chris Kyle while in the booth and reviewing the L5 jokingly accused LUCID of "Cheating" by making the system so simple to use.
    Chris was scheduled to run the L5 this season and give it a honest test run, unfortunately now this is an impossibility.

    The L5 is consistently used at very "real" distances.
    I won several matches last season with it, placing shots at 600yds, 800yds and 1000yds, quite reliably in the 1/8th to 1/4MOA groupings. I personally am placing shots with a .338 LAPUA on a 10" steel gong at 1760yds with the L5.

    Yes the L5 was born from hundreds of LE and MIL professionals feedback.
    An overwhelming amount of the operators and soldiers wanted a more precise adjustment in the turrets and the "Math" involved in placing a longer shot to be simple.

    This is exactly what the L5 reticle in the LUCID 6-24x50 rifle scope offers.

    Yes the L5 is fairly new to the market and there is a limited amount of information out there. We are working on that.

    As for it being a hard sell, actually in the country, once a shooter realizes what it is and the advantages it offers for the price point it is in…it is a quite easy sell.

    If you would like to call and discuss I will be available most of next week.

    If you wish to be in the pool of folks that LUCID uses for reviews, please send me more information about you and your experience in Long Range Shooting.
    As well as a proposed method of getting the review published, where and to how many and what types of shooters would make up your demographic.

    Thank you & Best Regards,
    Jason Wilson | Primary & Founder of LUCID
     
    #14
    that was what I was thinking, probably around 30 +/- up total. So I'm a little hesitant about the 1760 claimed shot on internal adjustment alone even with a 40moa base. Holdover with the reticle, I guess it's possible, but I would like to see the reticle in a screen viewable size. I'm not really planning on buying one, because there are just so many proven options for the same or more money, but would like anyone who is thinking about one to fully realize the capabilities or limitations of the scope (or any scope for that matter). The scope looks nice, but that, of course, means nothing if you plan to actually use it. And, I don't understand why, if the scope is so great and simple to use (as stated in the reply), is there not a better explanation, description, and pictures/information on their website.

    Also, no mention of country of origin/build anywhere.
     
    #16
    I've been using one of their HD7 red dots on an AR for a couple of years now and really like it. In some ways I like it better than my EoTech and it was half the price. I haven't seen much on their scope yet but so far I don't see anything all that special about it. Personally I wouldn't be willing to take the risk on it when I can get something similar that is a known quantity.
     
    #17
    To be fair a guy I know is friends with the maker and Chris Kyle was supposedly going to test it. I hear they are made in China though.
     
    #18
    I spoke directly with Jason @ Lucid on the phone. Nice enough guy, and answered all of my questions, as I answered all of his. I informed him that the L5 would be going up against my personal scope, which is a Vortex PST 6-24 SFP, for direct side-by-side comparison. He seemed confident about his product, and will be sending the scope my way shortly.

    I am willing to give anyone a chance. The product will tell the tale itself. I already own the PST, so this will be as fair of a comparison as possible. I have nothing to gain from any of this review process, and I will not be keeping the scope after the review. My one and only reason for doing this, is to see if it is any good, and worthy of spending the funds.

    DK
     
    #23
    I'll see if I can stop by and check them out, Their just a few miles away. As most already know, you get what you pay for in optics usually! (Huskemaw comes to mind as contrary) my guess is that they rate with Simmons, tasco, and Swift line of goods.
     
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    #24
    Met with Jason today and fondled the L5. Retail pricing was as $429, initial impression was pretty good. Glass was pretty good, turrets were lift to unlock then push down to lock similar to the new Zeiss HD5. The turrets are only 1/8" moa which gives you 7.5 moa per revolution and a total of 60moa range. You'll want a 20-30moa rail with this optic. Turrets were a bit mushy on clicks, but I have to remind myself not to compare it to a $2g optic. The reticle is pretty simple second focal moa sub tensions including windage in moa increments. He told me he has over 400 rounds through his 338 lapua with the same scope. He offered me to join him at the range with him and play with the L5 first hand. I talked to him about possible first focal and mil/mil setup, he was receptive to that. Fairly small company just getting out there.

    For those on a budget it may be worth checking out, I'll do a review when I get the oppurtunity at the range with one.
     
    #25
    Wyfox said:
    I'll see if I can stop by and check them out, Their just a few miles away. I heard they got a letter from Nightforce regarding some copying of there products. As most already know, you get what you pay for in optics usually! (Huskemaw comes to mind as contrary) my guess is that they rate with Simmons, tasco, and Swift line of goods.
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    You're 100% right about the huskemaw scopes! Sold by con artists, and promoted by a con artist, "the long range shooting" board seems to be a way for the board owner to push his stuff, and puff up crap like the huskemaw, I feel sorry for those that have spent their money believing huskamaw's and long range shooting's crap.
     
    #26
    I have an L5 in hand. Yes, I can see why Nightforce would have an issue with this one. There are quite a few details that mirror the Nightforce. Scope does look good, the glass seems to be fair, focal point kinda matches the dial indicators, turret locking for me takes some getting used too. I can say that I am not real crazy about the retail pricing, but it isn't a bad scope for the money so far.

    More details and pics to follow...

    DK
     
    #29
    I was alerted to this thread and thought it my be helpful to provide access to me directly to answer any questions and dispel any myths or correct mis-information.

    NOTE: I do not frequent the message boards very often, so if you wish to contact me please call me directly or e-mail me.


    Thank You & Best Regards,

    Jason Wilson | Primary & Founder of LUCID
    235 Fairway Drive, Riverton, WY 82501
    307.840.2160 | Welcome to LUCID | [email protected]
     
    #30
    LUCIDHD7 said:
    For the record LUCID did NOT get a letter from NightForce...the change in cosmetics was completely voluntary...


    Thank You & Best Regards,

    Jason Wilson | Primary & Founder of LUCID
    235 Fairway Drive, Riverton, WY 82501
    307.840.2160 | Welcome to LUCID | [email protected]
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    Just seen this, Jason you might want to let your local dealer know that. This is what I was told the first time I handled the L5 at RMS.
     
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    #31
    Jason,

    Do you have any new pics that you can share with us to see the changes?? I for one, like the scope. I wish I would have been able to do an indepth review on it. Thanks!!

    DK
     
    #32
    z71rat said:
    Jason,

    Do you have any new pics that you can share with us to see the changes?? I for one, like the scope. I wish I would have been able to do an indepth review on it. Thanks!!

    DK
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    What stopped you from doing an in depth review on it? Hell I'm in Wyoming and not all that far away. Give me one and I'll do a review on it that consists of a REAL box test vs the one they advertise. 2.5 MOA in all directions is far from a box test....
     
    #33
    Between dealing with our Life Safety survey, having 2 friends pass away, trying to build magazines, and dealing with the lawsuits from my ex... I was a little busy.

    I honored my commitment to Jason, and returned the scope to him. I spoke to him directly over the phone, and I have to say he is an upstanding individual.

    Like I said, just from what I saw of it, I really liked the scope. I would have preferred to have been able to give it a good run, but that was not to happen.

    DK
     
    #34
    z71rat said:
    Between dealing with our Life Safety survey, having 2 friends pass away, trying to build magazines, and dealing with the lawsuits from my ex... I was a little busy.

    I honored my commitment to Jason, and returned the scope to him. I spoke to him directly over the phone, and I have to say he is an upstanding individual.

    Like I said, just from what I saw of it, I really liked the scope. I would have preferred to have been able to give it a good run, but that was not to happen.

    DK
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    Gotcha man. Hate when life gets in the way. Maybe I'll email him and see if he would let a fellow WY shooter have a a go at it.
     
    #39
    I have used an HD-7 for over two years on a duty M-4 that I use as a training gun.... So it gets a lot of Full auto....
    I really like this sight.... And would never trade it for an Eotech! The HD-7 is just a solid, almost Beefy Dot sight. I really like its auto light/dark feature use of AAA batteries and multiple reticles. I have spoken
    to Jason on a couple of occasions.... And he is a big Military/ L.E. Supporter. In my experience Jason stands behind his products, and is a man of his word. I may pick up one of his rifle scopes and give it a run... I am building up a Savage FCP in 300 Win. Mag. That is looking for some glass!

    Fred
     
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    #41
    Any of yall ever use a Lucid 6-24x50

    madmikes262 said:
    Would definetly like to see the Lucid put through the ringer.
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    I'm working on trying to get one. So far he only wants to just meet up let me demo it. I want to have it for a few weeks and give it a through run thorough. The only 3rd party review I can find is this one and this ass clown tells me exactly nothing. I can't believe he even wasted his time..

    http://youtu.be/htC_TvVIEU0
     
    #44
    I've got a 2 day training class with Shadow6(Jim Gilliand) in May and Jason from Lucid is supposed to be in it too. I'll probably get to play with the L5 and see it used for approx 300 rounds in the class. I'll post my impressions after the course.
     
    #46
    Just throwing my .02 (from experience) in here.

    I bought an L5 from a local dealer to "take a chance" and see how it was. For the price (and the fact that I could return it) I figured what the hell.

    First of all this is not a "professional" review. I am just an old soldier that likes to shoot.

    I have it mounted on a Savage 10 PC in .308 with about 150 rounds thru the rifle with the scope on it. First impressions were good, looked good, glass was clear, fit and finish were very good. After mounting I took it over the hill and sighted it in at 100 yards. My targets are 12x12 with 4 bulls eyes 8 inches apart. So I did a pseudo box test. As mentioned above it's not moving to the extremes of the adjustments but it's more than the 2.5 MOA in the aforementioned video. No issues there either.

    I then went to a friends place and did some longer range shooting. Started at 200 yds and went up to 600. Could have went farther but "the cows moved in". :) Anyway, the scope performed well for me. I was using a combination of a data card and a range finder to verify for the adjustments. Turned out well, I was able to put the first shot on steel (12Wx20H) out to 500yds and took an extra 2 shots at 600yds, which was my mistake with the turret, but once it was right it was on. The adjustments on the scope were accurate and predictable. As to the 1/8 moa adjustments... I could see where in a truly tactical situation where you did not want (or could not) take your cheek from the rest to make the adjustments it would be a little painful, but as a "normal" user in a "fake-sniper" situation it's no problem. The turrets are clearly marked and adjusting 18.3 MOA for example is as easy as 2 revolutions, 2 moa and 2 clicks. Takes seconds... would it be easier on a 1/4 MOA...yes... but IMO not a reason to bash the scope.

    I only used the reticle for windage a couple of times to check it out. Nothing real exciting there, normal holdover. BTW the tiny reticle specs mentioned above are only online. The manual that comes with the scope has a readable version. That's not to say the one online should not be changed, but at least when you spend the money you get one that you can read.

    All in all (especially for the money) I have no complaints with it. Maybe that will change when we go back out and I try and stretch to 1000yds, but for now IMO it's worth the money.

    I personally think it's a good choice for a "mid-priced" mid to (hopefully) long range scope. Not saying that it's going to stand up to a $4K Zeiss for example but at 10 times lesser cost it does a damn fine job. Don't be afraid of it. :D
     
    #48
    I put in to do a review against the Viper 6-24x44, PST 6-24x50, Weaver Tac 4-20, and even a Buckmaster 6-18x40. If Jason replies with a "yes" I will run it through it's paces at my home range to 1600+ yds, with my good friends from Military, and also run it through Dan Newberry's range if I get it in time. Will Post many,many pics, and reviews from all. I just got the steel tgts set up at 300/517/803/1025/&1340yds. I wrote for a Magazine Co for a few years, nothing big, but the Owner decided to open a fly shop.
     
    #49
    I spent last weekend with Jim Gilliland in a Shadow6 Presicion rifle class here in Wyoming. Jason from Lucid was in the class with us and brought several L5 scopes. I was very impressed for the money, they box tested great and tracked with no issues, and the glass was excellent given the price point. It uses a moa sub tension reticle with 1/8 moa turrets.
    One guy in the class was running a Vortex Razor and it had a ocular lens come loose and rendered it useless. The guy put a Lucid on and finished the class and loved it. Everyone running them had no complaints and were able to engage plates from 300-1000 yards with no difficulty. During the 2 day course approx 300 rounds were fired by each shooter, not a single Lucid had a malfunction or problem. We had a 21 year old kid that had never shot past 100yds shoot a guys 6.5-284 savage with a Lucid L5 and make a second round hit at 1 mile!

    In my opinion if your on a budget and need an affordable and reliable optic, the Lucid is a great scope. At $400 I can't think of many optics that can compete with this one. Jim and I may have Jason convinced to do a mil/mil version, If anybody would like to e-mail Jason to show your interest in a mil version you should. If he gets enough interest I can see him getting the ball rolling.
     
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