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Strzock on the hot seat.....
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Buahahahaha! This is awesome! Can I come hang out with you? I want to know exactly what you are doing so I can imitate you at my local Walmart!
It must be contagious, been the local meany to the snowflakes in my AO.
Their childlike reaction is entirely predictable and entertaining.
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Unless you don't have anything to lose, be careful of how far you go. Unlike those who need others to do their bidding for them, that ain't never been me. There are somethings I will no longer stand for, an libtards are a trigger to me. I've earned my keep in/for this country an am not about to see her slip deeper into a third world shit hole any more than it already has. I love those who talk shit on the net, but keep their options to their self's when in public. These people to me are worst than the fuck sticks they should be taking on. I do not, nor will I ever live on my knees, no matter who they are, or who they think they are. The conservatives of this country have brought this shit on their self's an have no one else to blame but their self's for what we are seeing now. Again some take kindness for weakness, that B/S is over for me. I have nothing to lose an everything to gain for my kids an grand kids.
I just started to try to follow Q's posts. I get the impression a lot of folks put their hope in this person/people. But who's to say this isn't just a diversionary tactic to keep us from taking action against the deep state until it's too late? If we believe that Trump and Q have the situation well in hand and all we have to do is wait on them to save the republic, then the traitors have nothing to worry about from us.
Been saying that for quite some time now. Fact is, nothing will be done but it won’t be because certain numbers of us don’t know, it will be because people are too lazy to act.
Lot of good points here. Thanks for the response.
1.) Those people who refuse to work are not living lavish lives but I see your point that it is an entitlement. Unemployment is at 4%. Using rough math 4% of 330 million people is 13.2 million people. Housing assistance, SNAP, and negative income tax are the biggest contributors to the welfare budget and occupy $200 billion of the annual $6.2 trillion dollar budget of the USA (3% of US yearly budget). So 13.2 million people are fighting for 3% of the federal budget. $200 billion/13.2 million = $1515 per year that these people are getting.
2. ) Yup, illegal immigrants are working here illegally. They are displacing Americans who could work those jobs. They are getting paid less than an American would though AND under the table. Is this the fault of the owner who hires illegals or the fault of the unemployed not working these often shitty jobs.
4.) The DNC did rob Bernie Sanders of an election but he is giant socialist, whom everyone here hates? I guess you are talking about the principle of robbing a candidate of their ability to run by rigging the body that governs who represents that party (ie Hillary colluding with top DNC leaders and outright buying them to TAKE the nomination). This is a valid concern and a very good point.
5.) When you say coup are you referring to the investigation of Trump's campaign party and their affiliation and cooperation with Russian actors. I would say this is due diligence to catch those people. We do not know Trump's involvement (likely none) so I will reserve judgement to see how it plays out. If there is indisputable evidence (of what I do not know) would you believe it? Or would you say it was manufactured?
6.) Treason is a strong claim so you better have some facts to back it up. You are being vague and for good reason.
7 & 8.) I love the term useful idiot. The media are able to spin stories every which way so useful idiots are a great benefit to them.
9.) Don't fall for "threats to public safety". The mass shooting "epidemic" is largely overblown and it takes 2 minutes of googling to see that overall violent crime is down and the uptick of mass shooting events account for a miniscule amount of deaths. Facts are on our side in this debate and we have to stay strong to temper our emotions and fight their emotions with facts.
10.) There's no such thing as a communist movement in America. Please call it what it is: Socialism. If you take ideas that are being discussed to the extreme you are no better than how fake news outlets portray the President.
11.) A big yup here and it's not just the elite who are eroding first and second amendment rights. Hillary Clinton robbed Bernie Sanders, James Comey trashed Hillary's election by saying she's under investigation, Democrats and Republicans gerrymandering folks robbing them of their representation, NFL players being sued and harassed for kneeling (an expression of free speech), Antifa fighting white supremacists over their right to protest and assemble, the NeverAgain movement those Parkland kids are pursuing.
I feel ya. A lot of people don't care but I do. Thanks for showing me what's up and what's happening. I would like to see a push for greater responsibility and self-accountability by increasing civil rights over the garbage that's happening right now about telling people how we should live our lives.
Fat fucks using food stamps/snap, then pulling a wad out to pay for beer an cig's while complaining about not getting enough food stamps/or snap. That shit burns me to the fucking bone.
One fat ass was complaining she was only getting 80 bucks a month for FS/snap to which I said yet I know how it is as .gov stole that money from me to give to you via legalize theft, called taxes.
Or some smart ass asking how I can eat that good to which I replied, I worked all my fucking life w/o help an put money away for retirement I'll do as I fucking please with what I have left before .gov steals any more an gives it to your lazy ass.
Or some young fat ass wondering how at my age I can get around as quick or as good as I do, to which I reply. Try working out an using the push back diet. You know, push your fat ass away from the table an quit eating that shit you have in your buggy an try real food, for once in your life.
If they want to get fat on their money I don't have an issue with that, but getting fat or pumping out kids on my dime via legalized theft, fuck that. If they have the right to my wallet via taxes, I have the right to speak my mind when I fucking what to!!!
My guess, if we don't see things moving to the ctr or right of ctr by the end of Trumps first term an a leftest is elected, then SHTF is a very real possibility no matter what Q is saying.
Oh yeah, I need to hang out. We would get along just fine. I don’t see that kind of crap much where I’m at because I live way out in the suburbs with good honest people. However, I do remember as a kid when we lived closer to the city seeing this kind of activity all of the time.
My mom would always cut coupons and worked her ass off to give us what food we were able to get. Dad was always gone working his ass off for the power company after his time in the military. So, I didn’t see him much. Anyways to make an long story short, I noticed a lady and her family had parked right outside the Food Giant when we pulled up to go get groceries. Keep in mind, this wasn’t the greatest part of town then even tho it wasn’t bad, yet. However, it was turning that way. I avoid that area now at all cost because it looks like a war zone. Anyway this family was driving a $100,000 Mercedes at the time and I was already pissed because they apparently thought they had the right to have door service at the entryway by leaving that nice ride up there, parked. But I let it slide. We met them again in the checkout line, they had a shit load more/better food than we did. I took note of this as my mom is thumbing through her coupons to save some money. Then it happened, the card came out and I looked at my mom then looked at them and lost my shit. I’m talking I went ape crazy and called them out and basically told them what kind of pieces of shit they were for taking advantage of the system. I told everyone around about the car up front etc. caused quite the commotion, one of the managers came over and said I needed to calm down or they were going to call the cops. I told him to go ahead and call them so we can report a crime. Then I got lectured on how rude I was being for calling these people out. It just escalated from there. Needless to say, lots of people learned something that day due to my outrage. Yeah I looked like an asshole but that needed to be called out.
We argued for quite some time. One of her kids threatened me and I basically shoved him back and said if he didn’t get out of my face, id lay his ass out, all 130 pounds of me at the time. And of course, it was two black officers that showed up and they were just consoling the people I just called out. Now the cool thing was when it was all said and done, one of the black officers came over and along with the store manager said that they agreed with me and what I was saying. However, they claimed that there wasn’t a whole lot that could be done. That was such BS. I gave up on the system then. That was in 1993. I can only imagine how bad it has gotten in some areas now. Like I said, I purposely avoid most large cities.
The crazy thing is, I have no idea how I turned out to be who I am today after attending these crazy inner city schools. Later I transferred to a great county school with great people.
I do the same in Walmart . When we see this shit in the checkout I start yellin , look hun their part of the free shit army . They take don't contribute and demand more to sit on their asses . Treedoggy don't play dat PC shit .
I have disdain for both parties and the people who lead them. I frequently see the political leadership on both sides telling people how to live their lives instead of letting them live how they want. And instead of catering to the people who give them the, supposedly, representative power they bow down to the corporations that line their pockets instead.
On the note of pedophiles and politics and power - it is a barometer on the seduction of power, it a hammer over a public person’s head....consider the odds that Jeff (CIA?) Epstein’s plane and entire island were rigged with cameras and mic’s just for this purpose. Is it entry to an elite club of shitbags that now feel safe to conduct business amongst each other?
FWIIW I routinely check out Democratic Underground / Demo Socialist of America / Its Going Down / and a handful of other sites. You’d be amazed. Forum discussions generally start with a biased news story from the MSM, and every subsequent post is about what they feel should happen, none of those feelz are bolstered by additional cites. It’s like watching children hash shit out.
I used to be in this camp very squarely. I am aware of a plan to Balkanize the USA, I realize that ‘winning’ on the part of the bad people can be defined as destroying the econ, fomenting a civil war, just as they did in Ukraine / Syria (and a litany of other nations throughout the decades), only to escape and leave all of us in a very bad situation. However, as time and the Q story have rolled on (I’ve read it all and followed it for some time) I came to see publicly that too truth much has been disseminated to too many. Therefore, I have to believe that the intent is sincere.
IF it all works out it will be an amazing historical tale - after the framework given to the Nation was abused and corrupted, a new group of Patriots seized control and used the legal and political processes afforded them by their forefathers to regain control, bring criminals to justice, educate the populous on not only the processes and remedies available to Government, but also to restore faith in Government itself.
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Lot of good points here. Thanks for the response.
1.) Those people who refuse to work are not living lavish lives but I see your point that it is an entitlement. Unemployment is at 4%. Using rough math 4% of 330 million people is 13.2 million people. Housing assistance, SNAP, and negative income tax are the biggest contributors to the welfare budget and occupy $200 billion of the annual $6.2 trillion dollar budget of the USA (3% of US yearly budget). So 13.2 million people are fighting for 3% of the federal budget. $200 billion/13.2 million = $1515 per year that these people are getting.
Just the other day I linked the 45 goals of the Communist Party read into the 1963 Congressional Record and encouraged folks to review them. I then said that we live in era wherein people that are ignorant of the true functions of our Government have come to confuse the Natural Rights of Man, with health care as a right or housing as a right - which is in fact the right to steal. A core function of Government is not to be a redistributor of wealth.
2. ) Yup, illegal immigrants are working here illegally. They are displacing Americans who could work those jobs. They are getting paid less than an American would though AND under the table. Is this the fault of the owner who hires illegals or the fault of the unemployed not working these often shitty jobs.
Fault? How about a tax code that rewards them for being here? How about an administration that played the dog whistle to bring them here? How about Mexico (a failed state) that would go belly up if those dollars didn’t flow back home? You’re right, there is incentive for them to come here; but the illegal and the employer that hires them are them symptom - not the cancer.
How are these two matters connected? Expansion of the FED / Expansion of US Taxpayer Obligations
5.) When you say coup are you referring to the investigation of Trump's campaign party and their affiliation and cooperation with Russian actors. I would say this is due diligence to catch those people. We do not know Trump's involvement (likely none) so I will reserve judgement to see how it plays out. If there is indisputable evidence (of what I do not know) would you believe it? Or would you say it was manufactured?
The coup are the people that sold 20% of our uranium to Russia and did a secret deal with Iran. They needed to do that because the highjacked the already processed uranium from the megatons to megawatts scam. Muller hand carried a sample to Russia. These same people placed certain dubious characters into the Trump campaign for the express purpose of being able to get surveillance. If you have not, look into Carter Page....
10.) There's no such thing as a communist movement in America. Please call it what it is: Socialism. If you take ideas that are being discussed to the extreme you are no better than how fake news outlets portray the President.
The people that say it are either lying, or incredibly naive about the use of force when those that produce, turn off the public spigot.
Lot of good points here. Thanks for the response.
1.) Those people who refuse to work are not living lavish lives but I see your point that it is an entitlement. Unemployment is at 4%. Using rough math 4% of 330 million people is 13.2 million people. Housing assistance, SNAP, and negative income tax are the biggest contributors to the welfare budget and occupy $200 billion of the annual $6.2 trillion dollar budget of the USA (3% of US yearly budget). So 13.2 million people are fighting for 3% of the federal budget. $200 billion/13.2 million = $1515 per year that these people are getting.
Just the other day I linked the 45 goals of the Communist Party read into the 1963 Congressional Record and encouraged folks to review them. I then said that we live in era wherein people that are ignorant of the true functions of our Government have come to confuse the Natural Rights of Man, with health care as a right or housing as a right - which is in fact the right to steal. A core function of Government is not to be a redistributor of wealth.
2. ) Yup, illegal immigrants are working here illegally. They are displacing Americans who could work those jobs. They are getting paid less than an American would though AND under the table. Is this the fault of the owner who hires illegals or the fault of the unemployed not working these often shitty jobs.
Fault? How about a tax code that rewards them for being here? How about an administration that played the dog whistle to bring them here? How about Mexico (a failed state) that would go belly up if those dollars didn’t flow back home? You’re right, there is incentive for them to come here; but the illegal and the employer that hires them are them symptom - not the cancer.
How are these two matters connected? Expansion of the FED / Expansion of US Taxpayer Obligations
5.) When you say coup are you referring to the investigation of Trump's campaign party and their affiliation and cooperation with Russian actors. I would say this is due diligence to catch those people. We do not know Trump's involvement (likely none) so I will reserve judgement to see how it plays out. If there is indisputable evidence (of what I do not know) would you believe it? Or would you say it was manufactured?
The coup are the people that sold 20% of our uranium to Russia and did a secret deal with Iran. They needed to do that because the highjacked the already processed uranium from the megatons to megawatts scam. Muller hand carried a sample to Russia. These same people placed certain dubious characters into the Trump campaign for the express purpose of being able to get surveillance. If you have not, look into Carter Page....
10.) There's no such thing as a communist movement in America. Please call it what it is: Socialism. If you take ideas that are being discussed to the extreme you are no better than how fake news outlets portray the President.
The people that say it are either lying, or incredibly naive about the use of force when those that produce, turn off the public spigot.
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Ok.
I wish it were that easy to figure but it's not.
Statistically, 4% is pretty much full employment.
Here's why.
The 4% number includes those not actively seeking employment, those in the period between employment and receipt of the first retirement income. It also can include those on short term disability as either long term disability or SS disability have not started as yet. It's also a catch-all bucket for weirdly defined non-jobseekers.
It's not simple math and I can assure you the cost per non-jobseeking unemployed is significantly higher than $1515. Twenty-fold or more in many cases.
Here's why.
You're only using federal unemployment dollars. Low or no income disabled or not get Medicaid. They are also allowed zero cost Medicare Advantage plans. (Different budget slot and accounting) WIC. Food Stamps. State Programs. Certain grant programs. Housing assistance (different budget slot again) frequently no cost housing (fully subsidized) Free prescriptions. Glasses, conveyances (think of that Hoveround commercial) dental and so on at virtually zero out of pocket.
I think if you factor just the above, and there is much more, into it you'll find twentyfold is actually low.
I'm older but not quite "Medicare" old and self-employed and my health insurance for my wife and I is damn near the number you quoted. (For which I say "fuck you forever Obama and your Affordable Care Act")
Not belittling you but the cost of those on the dole is gihugeic. If it were $1500 or even $15000 it wouldn't piss me off as badly.
And on that one, they are one and the same. No difference. Zip. They are merely degrees of the same thing. A little bit socialist is like a little bit pregnant. You either are 100% or you aren't.
While mentioning "socialism " name me one example that worked. One that isn't eating whatever economy and with it the dignity of the nation involved.
There absofuckinglutely is a communist fifth column infiltration in America.
Denying that it exists is one of the things they’ve managed to plant in people’s little pea-sized fucking brains.
Well, I just looked up what socialism is just to confirm if what my ideas and the reality are and they are pretty disparate.
1. Socialism is workers owning the means of production.
2. Communism is government ownership of all enterprise in the nation.
- I thought this was the big distinction.
There are two more terms I found.
3. Democratic socialism advocates for political democracy alongside social ownership of the means to productions
4. Social democracy is an ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice in the framework of liberal democracy (read classical liberalism / western democracy) and a capitalistic economy.
A strictly socialist country that is thriving cannot be found but social democracies like Norway, Sweden, and Finland are consistently the happiest countries on the planet.
3. Two opposing ideals that cannot coexist.
4. Happy is a perspective that can be taught.
Have you visited any of these countries lately?
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Maybe that's why they are so happy. Just ignored and left to do whatever they want to do whereas we are relied upon by the whole world and then insulted when we don't get involved.
This is the kind of public education we need.
I will say having a small, mostly homogenous population and large nationailzed reserves of oil to fund all their programs makes it easier. We'll have to see if they are still happy when they are as heterogenous as we are.
I'm too poor and busy to travel but I'd love to check those countries out. The skiing must be amazing there.
I have no issue with that.
You are also dealing in mentioning those three with what, on a world level, are very small economic models. Also a total population between the three of less than the State of New York.
On the workers owning the means of production? Cool. How they gonna buy it? Unless they have anew methodology or patent, they're going to have to take over someone's established production and facility. Someone paid to build that. How are they going to buy them out. Surveys say the majority of workers here are within a couple or three pay periods of broke. Don't think that allows for the wherewithal to do a buyout.
Now you're going to tell me there are zero independently owned businesses or individually owned businesses in Norway, Sweden or Finland?
Whoa whoa, I made the distinction that the Nordic countries are social democracies. The people voted for capitalistic reform to budget large welfare programs. No socialism required.
I will say it clearly here that what I thought and what is socialism were two separate things and I was wrong. The policies I would like to see tend to be only social democratic policies and none towards socialism. But everyone (10/11 majority) need to be in agreement before anything happens.
"Uninformed Platitudes 'R Us," your presence here makes me so happy that I could just shit.
Yes, happy-go-lucky, plucky, resolute Finland is the place to be, where you're three times more likely to off yourself than an Italian. Gimme more of that, you fuckin' stronzo stonato.
Go lose yourself at an Ikea, troll.
The Nordic countries are finding out that those who get paid by the state and don't work, often don't want to go back to work. They went back to Capitalism because they had stagnancy and decline with Socialism. Have you seen Venezuela? NO socialist form of .gov ever works out (more for me and none for you).
Here is a Nice 5 minute video. Johan Norberg on the Truth about Swedish Socialism
Democratic Socialism is still Socialism
Denmark taxes 43 to 59%. Can you imagine 59% in the US? The DMV would still be slow as fuck. Are you happy with your government services? Everytime I had to wait on hold (three times) for the IRS this year it was an average of 55 minutes wasted cause our CPA fucked up a single number.
Two people I couldn't despise more: Here they lay out their plan: I cringe when I fucking hear people say they need to pay their fair share. What is fair? Read atlas shrugged.
I have a relative who is liberal say that they wished they were taxed more and that people should pay more for taxes. I told them I would sit right where I was and they could pull out their check book and write a check to the US Treasury to pay their fair share if they felt like the US GOV wasn't taxing them enough. They simply looked at me like I was dumb, I was incensed. So not your money but other peoples, got it.
Hers a video and the meme game at the end is strong.
Watch some Milton Friedman its good for you:
Im not familiar with stronzo stanato but you would seem to be affirming the "strunza" role.
A immigree Italian welder that worked for my old job explained to me that a "strunza" was the worst insult he could throw.
It is the very pointy end of a piece of shit.
When I peel a banana to feed my kids they ask that I cut off and dispose of the "strunza" - that little piece of banana at the bottom of the peel that no one really likes to have around.
I would hope you do.
I want to like you but I cant when you express ideas that challenge the primacy of the individual and promote ideas that would limit freedom.
You express your libertarian nature than counter that ejaculation by promoting systems that make slaves of the citizenry - society owned means of production better than private ownership - preposterous in about 99.9 percent of the examples you can dream up.
I hope you get better from your illness.
Social programs =/= socialism. I've only promoted social programs which can be provided by the state, corportation, non profit, or federal government. All I want is an honest discussion on what people believe is the responsibilty of the US government and how that compares to reality and what needs to change.
Common defense and protection of individual rights. That's about it.
Just the harmless Commy in room aren’t cha? Can’t we just talk about Communism err um I mean Socialism? It all ends the same, the few FORCING the many.
Redistribution of wealth is not a core function of Government. Period. End. Of.Story.
If you're talking about a voluntary contribution toward such costs, and all programs are defeasible if they don’t get the $$ - sure, I’m in and I’d even contribute based on what they do and how they are run.
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Nope. The children have parents or family, lacking that, churches and communities. The wilderness? The same essentially applies. A moral society tends to take care of itself and it's own. Government breeds immorality, apathy, greed, and a desire for power by those who should be the last to hold power; it's best to keep it out of things as much as possible. Everything otherwise would take care of itself...the proverbial self licking ice cream cone...
The state provides nothing.
It only takes.
It takes from you than in the good cases provides back to you or it takes from you and in the bad case provides solely to others.
To add to that...the government only takes, and from others. It produces nothing itself.
Is a forest fire in Wyoming the problem of a man in Miami?
Is there a market based solution for the guy’s home in Wyo?
If we got the Gov out of said market based solutions - do you think New Orleans would have rebuilt for what the 7th time now?
Is there a market based solution for the guy’s home in Wyo?
If we got the Gov out of said market based solutions - do you think New Orleans would have rebuilt for what the 7th time now?
Pretty sure that's why this is called the United States of America. Let local people, deal with local problems. For issues that cross borders, then yes, a federal system is warranted. This country was originally founded with a decentralized mindset. We have gotten away from that on so many levels that we'll never go back to that. That being said, we could use a little more "command by negation" in this country IMHO.
Let's say we obtain a more decentralized governmental landscape. How do we handle necessary national standards such as emigration between states, infrastructure, educational standards (competency levels of doctors, engineers, etc).
"Italian" is dialectical.
Certain things would be standards agreed upon by designated representatives in constituent political subdivisions. We already have conventions among states on many things.
Certain things would be standards agreed upon by designated representatives in constituent political subdivisions. We already have conventions among states on many things.
There are very few "necessary" national standards. If a state wants dumb children or take in a bunch of immigrants, fine. They just shouldn't get Federal tax dollars to underwrite their lack of wisdom in making these decisions. Quite the opposite, I think making states compete against each other to raise standards is why a decentralized approach works.
Hell, property values here in San Diego vary LARGELY based on the ranking of the local school districts. So much so, that it's part of a house listing. Competition works. Setting "standards" usually breeds mediocrity, not excellence.
Hell, property values here in San Diego vary LARGELY based on the ranking of the local school districts. So much so, that it's part of a house listing. Competition works. Setting "standards" usually breeds mediocrity, not excellence.
There is no need to reinvent the wheel. Matters related to a Common National Defense would necessarily mean control of national borders.
Additionally we have an existing set of imigration laws. If citizens (note I did not say current resident or any facsimile thereof) choose to change those laws - there is a legal process. That is how we got the set of laws we have now. The Leftist are using ID politics and lies now that those laws are being enforced as written, combined with a campaign of feelz to call for action in order to drive wedges into society - just like in the Ukraine.
#walkaway helps
Privileged dipshits tying to achieve most special apparatchiks status help more (love the answer sweetheart, I bet no one has ever told you to STFU b/c it isn't about what you feel )
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I know they could call the states "Labratories of Democracy"
Why hasn't someone else come up with that term?
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