Lubeless Reloading Dies Question

[StrayDog]

It's been over a decade and @2000 miles away since i used to reload .308 and .45 ACP.
I remember my .45 dies were of a kind that required no lube, and I used only shiny steel media cleaned brass for both.
But then time vanished in a wormhole called work and family.
Are there any match-load worthy center-fire dies these days that can be run without using case lube at all? Still shooting .308 only.
It would be ideal to cut that step and mess and time out of my routine if possible, with little ones running about, and it was always my least favorite part of reloading. I used to do the RCBS lube pad rolling, about five cases at a time. Tried the sureshot ziplock bag method but found it messy.
It's looking possible to start up again, and figured maybe technology caught up while I've been running factory ammo only.
TIA SH.

 

[Ryridesmotox]

Carbide pistol dies dont require lube. Resizing dies for bottlenecked cartridges require lube. The only time I dont need lube is when I'm using my Lee collet die to resize my 308. Other than that you need to lube.

I order 99% isopropyl rubbing alcohol and lanolin oil off Amazon. I ordered like 5 years ago still using the same stuff I ordered back then. I'm pretty liberal with my lube and it still lasts a long time.

 

[gigamortis]

Straight walled pistol caliber sizing dies have a carbide ring at the bottom entrance of the die that does all the sizing, so there isn't much drag due to minimal contact area at any one time with the case. A 9mm case is tapered .020" and requires carbide for the entire length of the case. You really don't have to lube 9mm, but without lube they usually require twice the effort to size vs .45. I always hit my 9mm casings with some Hornady One Shot lube spray and it easily cuts the sizing effort in half. Straight walled cases like .380, .38 special, .357 magnum, .40, and .45 don't need any lube at all with a carbide die.

With rifle cases being tapered like a 9mm case, a full contact carbide die would have tremendous friction due to the amount of surface area that would be in contact with the case. Unfortunately, there is no way to avoid the lube step when sizing rifle casings.

 

[MtnCreek]

FL size in large batches. Lubing, sizing and cleaning up brass in small quantities can suck. Clean out a couple of coffee containers for brass so you're not getting your loading blocks nasty with lube.

 

[Mike Casselton]

FL size in large batches. Lubing, sizing and cleaning up brass in small quantities can suck. Clean out a couple of coffee containers for brass so you're not getting your loading blocks nasty with lube.

What kind of coffee do you drink?
Mine comes in bags and I have to grind it.

Old school reloading says you have to use Choc full O'nuts cans.

 

[MtnCreek]

@Mike Casselton Folgers 1/2 caf or sometimes I get fancy and blend my own from Folgers full caf and decaf. Comes in brass friendly plastic containers. :-D

 

[Ryridesmotox]

What kind of coffee do you drink?
Mine comes in bags and I have to grind it.

Old school reloading says you have to use Choc full O'nuts cans.

I use the folgers... it comes in the heavy duty plastic. The metal cans annoy me with the brass clanking around in steel

 

[KTAK]

Hornady One Shot lube, couple of squirts into a gallon ziplock of 50 or so 308 Cases has been working for me. Probably been 5000 cases since I last jammed one.... Way simpler than the roll on mess. Just using RCBS steel dies if that matters...

And times two on the no lube with the Lee Collet Neck die, cheap die but works awesome. Just clean it fairly regularly.

 

[StrayDog]

Thanks all, looking forward to reloading again.