Best 9mm pistol or carbine options

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Looking to get a 9mm setup for something fun at the range. I've shot a BT pistol and a Wilson ar9 carbine and enjoyed both of them. Are there any other decent options that are worth looking into?
 
I've been using a 9mm PCC for several years and a variety of 9mm pistols for decades.

Was looking for something new and fun and choose an Open Class pistol in 9mm Major. Man o man is it fun to shoot!
 
I love my scorpion
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I misunderstood. Look at STI or similar double stack pistols. Check out Shooters Connection. Brian Enos forum is the place to go for information. I shot that for years, back when USPSA was IPSC. Though other calibers are more popular that 9mmParabellum in Open because of the gas generated and the compensator. I shot 38 Super, though that's old school now.
 
I misunderstood. Look at STI or similar double stack pistols. Check out Shooters Connection. Brian Enos forum is the place to go for information. I shot that for years, back when USPSA was IPSC. Though other calibers are more popular that 9mmParabellum in Open because of the gas generated and the compensator. I shot 38 Super, though that's old school now.

You were correct with your first recommendation. I am looking at carbines or pistols on the ar platform.
 
I purposely went away from the AR platform when I was hunting a PCC.

....then I bought a B&T Apc9 pro.

It’s different enough that I like the look, but completely familiar on the controls for someone trained on AR platform weapons for years.

The Apc9 is a sweet lil gun. Fun as hell to plink with, more accurate than I need (4-5 inch at 100 rested, w/ ACRO), lil gassy for a lefty.

I did have a lil snag w/ my first batch of mags. I bought new old stock off gunbroker & they liked to spit out second to last and the last round out of a mag at once. But B&T got me fixed up with new replacement mags that run flawlessly.

I have yet to experience cracking that some guys report on the feed lips.

Overall the Apc9 is one of my favorite guns & I 100% would buy one again!
 
Other than the shitty trigger my Beretta CX4 has been a good shooter. It uses cheap and plentiful 92 mags. My next upgrade is a Sierra Pappa trigger. They can be had for around $600 on the used market.
 
I purposely went away from the AR platform when I was hunting a PCC.

....then I bought a B&T Apc9 pro.

It’s different enough that I like the look, but completely familiar on the controls for someone trained on AR platform weapons for years.

The Apc9 is a sweet lil gun. Fun as hell to plink with, more accurate than I need (4-5 inch at 100 rested, w/ ACRO), lil gassy for a lefty.

I did have a lil snag w/ my first batch of mags. I bought new old stock off gunbroker & they liked to spit out second to last and the last round out of a mag at once. But B&T got me fixed up with new replacement mags that run flawlessly.

I have yet to experience cracking that some guys report on the feed lips.

Overall the Apc9 is one of my favorite guns & I 100% would buy one again!
The B&T’s are nice and the machining is gorgeous.
 
I was looking at the JP as well just forgot to mention it. They do look nice as well, would you go with the side charging model?
Then my JP reccomendation stands. I went with a conventional charging handle, just because it's a manual of arms I could do in my sleep. PPC Division is really popular in USPSA, and it's rare to see a JP stutter and common for the others. Though that's not relevant for just range fun.
 
You didn't mention USPSA competition, but one might keep in mind is that the PPC Division requires a carbine. A "arm braced" handgun is not allowed. I really like my Sig MPX, but it's a "handgun".?
 
I have both a CMMG Banshee 9mm and a PSA AKV. They're both a boat load of fun, but if I had to choose just one it would be the CMMG. It's lighter, less felt recoil (neither has much) and has run perfectly for 1000 rounds. I like the folding stock on the AKV and just the fact that it's AKish, but after 500 rounds it's started firing 2 and 3 round bursts. I would consider this a plus if it wasn't random. :) I was thinking about a new trigger for it and from what I've read that should solve the problem, but I'm sure PSA would fix it if asked.

There's lots of choices and I'm sure you'll find something you like.
 
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As others have stated, the CZ Scorpion is what you are looking for. Affordable, significant aftermarket support, uber-reliable, cheap magazines, and fun.

My scorpion has been 100% over a thousand rounds of mixed suppressed and unsuppressed. It just flat runs. And it suppresses very well. Think staple gun quiet with a good suppressor.
 
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Looking to get a 9mm setup for something fun at the range. I've shot a BT pistol and a Wilson ar9 carbine and enjoyed both of them. Are there any other decent options that are worth looking into?

I'm a bit old school in some of my offerings and will always lean towards colt 9mm... only for the simple reason that it gives me an excuse to grow out a mustache and wear my aviators.
 
Is the trigger decent once upgraded to the timney?

Tavor - Yes the Timney is surprisingly good! But it has to work with the factory bullpup linkage, so there's some take up. Doesn't matter too much because the trigger is light and fairly crisp. It's not as good as my Geissele in the AR, which is a 2 stage, but close enough. The factory trigger was horrible, I think the worst trigger I've had, lol, so.....

Csbarr - It's so much easier to shoot now. Shooting at our plate rack at 12Y I'm going a good second faster, which doesn't sound like much, but 6 plates at 3-ish seconds from low ready is all my current ability level will allow.
Also my hit percentage is higher than with the old trigger and I can time the shots better.
 
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I don't own one, however, I am still surprised that we are 30 posts into this thread and no one has mentioned the HK SP-5...

That would fit the bill for expensive and fun at the range.

What does one want to accomplish at the range specifically?
Just enjoying blasting ammo at targets, or trying to practice for something, or trying to setup a gun for any other specific purpose?
 
If it's just plinking you're doing the CZ Scorpion will do. Awesome after market support. 35 round PSA magazines

Less expensive than the Magpul and a metal feed not plastic.

If it's for competition go with the JP rifle.
 
Csbarr - It's so much easier to shoot now. Shooting at our plate rack at 12Y I'm going a good second faster, which doesn't sound like much, but 6 plates at 3-ish seconds from low ready is all my current ability level will allow.
Also my hit percentage is higher than with the old trigger and I can time the shots better.

Well other than learning new mechanics, my biggest issue with the Tavor was the trigger, so this is awesome to hear.
 
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