yep the light spring is installed.Ive seen some replies here saying the light spring was installed when they got rifle. Did yours have light or regular spring installed?
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Join the contest Subscribeyep the light spring is installed.Ive seen some replies here saying the light spring was installed when they got rifle. Did yours have light or regular spring installed?
its not bonded so i think its a matter of taking off the lower, then unscrewing about 4 screwsHow easy is it to separate the chassis and barreled action?
Is it grey in colorMan the Elite Sands look really good in person![]()
Looks grey
I can’t tell if you’re serious. AW mags hold 11. Add a 2 round holder and just toss one on top of the mag and away you go to 12. I’ve never been handicapped with AW mags.That said, until AI makes a 12+ round mag they can’t be taken seriously for PRS style competitions. That’s just a fact. Nobody is willing to give up a mag change for a 12 rounds stage.
No offense taken. It was a borderwars sanctioned match with cof written by a competent MD. Plenty of quality shooter in attendance.yes I’m serious. Any serious top level shooter is not going to “toss one on top” when they can have a 12 round mag for a 12 round stage. There’s a reason you don’t see AIs winning golden bullets.
No offense but if you cleaned an entire match, the match was a joke. This has never been done in any sanctioned PRS match to my knowledge. Someone came within a point one time but it’s never happened.
Pics?I made a 12 round AW mag. Isn't hard at all to do. All u need is a universal area 419 extension and a Dremel with a cutting wheel bit. Very little follower spring tension but it has never not fed 100%. The AI eats em up.
Very interested in some pics if you wouldn’t mind. PM if you don’t want to clutter this thread. ThanksI made a 12 round AW mag. Isn't hard at all to do. All u need is a universal area 419 extension and a Dremel with a cutting wheel bit. Very little follower spring tension but it has never not fed 100%. The AI eats em up.
Very interested in some pics if you wouldn’t mind. PM if you don’t want to clutter this thread. Thanks
While I don't doubt the equipment makes SOME difference at the top, a lot of it is 'culture' related. People want to shoot what the top shooters use. Like the EAA Tanfo in USPSA. You get a outspoken brash spokesperson and suddenly everyone wants on the hella cool bandwgon.
You want everyone to use an AI in PRS? Find a young up and comer, sponser them and splash their name on shooting rags everywhere.
I doubt the EAA was any better than a big CZ or even a glock equipment wise. Everyone BELEIVES its the equipment.
Ignore those 1000s of rounds of training....
How can it not make a difference if it’s faster than throwing a round in from a quiver? It does make a difference and I’m sure there is a big market for 12 round AW mag and I’m sure you guys would be buying it too if it does come out. @tomirwin please make the mags12 mags have never ever made a difference. I couldn’t care less about a 12 round magazine, be proficient with your gear and a mag change is easy. The black looks good @NoLegs24 so does the elite sand
How can it not make a difference if it’s faster than throwing a round in from a quiver? It does make a difference and I’m sure there is a big market for 12 round AW mag and I’m sure you guys would be buying it too if it does come out. @tomirwin please make the mags
Great question. hoping any day nowAll this mag talk is cool… but has anyone gotten a Dark Earth ATX from Euro at all? Inquiring minds want to know when the rack of DE rifles that AI showed off about 3 weeks ago will start showing up.![]()
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Great question. hoping any day now.
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Great question. hoping any day now
I’ve seen a homeless guy shit faster than I ever have in the street. Doesn’t make it better.I saw J.R. run a 12 round/12 target stage with an AI AX with 10 round mag and hand feeding the last 2 rounds, clean, and the fastest run on that stage out of the whole field of shooters. Won $1000 for that stage as well.
Like i mentioned earlier in the post. If you want a 12 rnd AW mag right now, you can make one in about 4 minutes with a dremel and a universal Area 419 extension.
Disagree on Impact. Definitely not a "step change". There are other R700 patterned actions that were around before Impact that have every bit as good of quality and durability.I’ve seen a homeless guy shit faster than I ever have in the street. Doesn’t make it better.
To be clear you’re trying to say there’s no time advantage to running a 12 round stage with a 12 round mag vs running it with a 10-11 round mag? Do you actually believe in that statement?
Can you run a 12 round stage with a 10 round mag? Yes of course. Is it ideal? No it is not. My only point was that it seems AI is taking several
Steps to enter the PRS market more aggressively (this rifle release, lighter trigger, etc). However if they REALLY want to compete with the customs out there and gain an even bigger following they need to make a 12+ (ideally a 15 round since DS) mag.
As for the comment about the impact craze… it was warranted. It was a step change in quality and durability in a 700 style action. They are that good and there’s a reason a lot of top guys use them. Is there some politics involved? Sure, there always is. But don’t let that take away from the fact the quality and durability of the Impact action design got it to where it is today.
Name one please.Disagree on Impact. Definitely not a "step change". There are other R700 patterned actions that were around before Impact that have every bit as good of quality and durability.
Don't necessarily disagree on 12 round mags, however there's ways to remedy that if you so chose. But I agree, 12 round AW mags would certainly sell.
Name one please.
@generalzip All love though SteveI’ll let you mess with mine if you’re going to the AI Classic.
Now let’s get back on track. Black sure does look good
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Good looking gun...not quite as good as the RED but still looks good.12 mags have never ever made a difference. I couldn’t care less about a 12 round magazine, be proficient with your gear and a mag change is easy. The black looks good @NoLegs24 so does the elite sand
Interesting. Hopefully the fde's from the end of October show up soon then.Euro got 12 ES rifles today. All went to backorders. No FDE yet. But told shortly.
That looks like a tdx-0 by ergo.Good looking gun...not quite as good as the RED but still looks good.
What grip are you running @deadly0311
The Ergo vertical which ever model that isGood looking gun...not quite as good as the RED but still looks good.
What grip are you running @deadly0311
I can assure you I wouldn’t buy a single 12 round AW mag. Again be proficient with your gear and a 12 rd mag argument is null and voidHow can it not make a difference if it’s faster than throwing a round in from a quiver? It does make a difference and I’m sure there is a big market for 12 round AW mag and I’m sure you guys would be buying it too if it does come out. @tomirwin please make the mags
Mehhh, take 2 equally proficient shooters on a limited time stage the one that doesn't have to change mags or pull from extra round holder will always be faster. Nothing wrong with practicing mag changes but high capacity mags win every time with everything else being equal.I can assure you I wouldn’t buy a single 12 round AW mag. Again be proficient with your gear and a 12 rd mag argument is null and void
Will all those weights, should have just bought a black rifle and saved the FDE model for someone else! Haha.Here's and FDE off some rack, sure does look nice. Should probably try shooting it one of these days.
When did you get the black one? Mile high or euro? I’m sixth in line at euro.Last I checked, I never gave a f* what the top shooters in the PRS/ NRL are doing.
AI isn’t going to cry cause the top shooters of a series/ league aren’t using there rifles.
I don’t mind losing points at a match because previous chassis, weren’t meant for comps like the more popular ones you see. Or because I was ‘stuck’ with 10 round mags (can actually fit 11 lol).
Sacrificing points running the gear that I want, is easy to do.
@generalzip All love though SteveI’ll let you mess with mine if you’re going to the AI Classic.
Now let’s get back on track. Black sure does look good
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Not to get way into the weeds but how’s that work with 223. Cause single feeding 223 doesn’t workI can assure you I wouldn’t buy a single 12 round AW mag. Again be proficient with your gear and a 12 rd mag argument is null and void