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Garmin Xero C1 Pro chronograph

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i new to chrono's and my first was a magnetospeed v3. had some shots that wouldnt clock but normally pretty good.

picked up a xero c1 last week and noticed it clocked faster on 2 of my 308 loads by 100 fps and 75fps BUT it was spot on with the 223 ammo tested.

i figure it was the magnetospeed being off because sometimes it would come loose and not read. glad to have the xero since the v3 seemed hard to get tight to the barrel and it works with everything. i have some rifles with rails out to the end of the barrel and am not interested in setting up an old school chrono.
 
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Yes, you can pull session files directly off the Garmin and dump into a computer directory.
The problem is that they are not .CSV files. They are some weird Autocad raster file that is unreadable. They get converted to .CSV files when the unit auto dumps from your phone as an email.

Right now if your session doesn't autodump into Shotview you can still see the data on the Xeros.
I have hope that may change because the Garmin guy did say "currently".

Still better than anything else by a long shot.

BugIn
 
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Just got in from vacation. Haven't had time to get to the range with it, but had to play with it. It clocked the salt from a freaking bug assault. It's a wild time to be alive.

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Wow....

Just got back from my first trip to the range with my Xero. This is my first chrono so nothing to compare it to. So simple and easy to use, and that says a lot coming from me LOL. Did 5 round samples of the 10 different 223/556 cartridges I have. Still have to sit down and sort through, but found some interesting observations as I was shooting.

edit: just downloaded a session from my phone via email, downloaded it and pulled it up in excel. Can't get much easier than what I experienced.
 
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HPIguy said:
Just got in from vacation. Haven't had time to get to the range with it, but had to play with it. It clocked the salt from a freaking bug assault. It's a wild time to be alive.

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carbonbased said:
But do you reload? Serious bug smashers reload and do ladder tests and use tuners and whatnot.
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Iodized or non-iodized salt?
 
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Garmin it appears would rather not publicly document errors/enhancements or mistakes thus no change log of changes to the software.

Like a lot of you, I like to know why something is being updated especially if it covers something I don't plan on using or needing as updates are opportunities for corruption if the update process fails. Recovery from a corruption would mean sending the unit back to the manufacturer to be fixed.
 
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B y r o n said:
Like a lot of you, I like to know why something is being updated especially if it covers something I don't plan on using or needing as updates are opportunities for corruption if the update process fails. Recovery from a corruption would mean sending the unit back to the manufacturer to be fixed.
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This is my exact concern. If there is something legit, like a calculation edit or battery life enhancement, sure I'll update. If it's something generic that doesn't directly impact anything in field usage, hard pass.
 
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Garmin does list the firmware updates for the Xero C1 on their website. But the latest update 3.21 is missing.
https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?f...64&searchQuery=software&tab=topics&textPage=1

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Using the iPhone Garmin ShotView app, you can review a new/pending software update before applying the update.

On the Xero, you do have the option to Cancel the software update once it has app has connected and the Software Update screen appears.

What is unknown is that if you cancel and do not apply an update, can you skip an update and only apply the future updates that you wish.

Here are some images from the ShotView app. To view the Device info, tap the Xero icon at the top right of the Home screen.

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I wish I would have bought one of these sooner. I had just bought a labradar though. I need to finish trimming the foam and glue the layers together. But the pelican ruck40 isn't overly large and should protect it. I had the ruck 40 already but the smaller ruck20 might fit better.

As a data point I ran my hunting load which averaged 2720fps with my labradar averaged 2727fps with the garmin. Close enough for me.

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Ichi said:
Garmin does list the firmware updates for the Xero C1 on their website. But the latest update 3.21 is missing.
https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?f...64&searchQuery=software&tab=topics&textPage=1

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Using the iPhone Garmin ShotView app, you can review a new/pending software update before applying the update.

On the Xero, you do have the option to Cancel the software update once it has app has connected and the Software Update screen appears.

What is unknown is that if you cancel and do not apply an update, can you skip an update and only apply the future updates that you wish.

Here are some images from the ShotView app. To view the Device info, tap the Xero icon at the top right of the Home screen.

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I'm still on 3.17 and haven't had any stability issues in 30-40+ hours of operation. I wonder what stability issues were fixed in 3.20, or if they were induced in 3.18/3.19.
 
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Update I had family on holiday in Australia late January,they fetched me one back from down under,early February.its now been released in the uk but there is little to no stock
 

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I’m having an odd issue and looking for some insight from the hive mind. I’ve been pausing and resuming a session for about a week; at 55 rounds I checked in ShotView and the session was imported/updated. I shot 5 more rounds then ended the session…but the Garmin remains at 55 rounds. I’ve unpaired, repaired, synced, and reset the Garmin (20 seconds PWR button) yet this string won’t update.
 
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TheOE800 said:
I’m having an odd issue and looking for some insight from the hive mind. I’ve been pausing and resuming a session for about a week; at 55 rounds I checked in ShotView and the session was imported/updated. I shot 5 more rounds then ended the session…but the Garmin remains at 55 rounds. I’ve unpaired, repaired, synced, and reset the Garmin (20 seconds PWR button) yet this string won’t update.
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So, it exports on Pause as well and not just on End Session?
 
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TheOE800 said:
Even if it transferred only on end…string is 60 on the unit but 55 in the app.
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Maybe I'm not understanding....you transferred the session originally with 55 shots in the string. As far as I know, the only way to transfer the session from the device to the app is by ending the session. Then, you aren't supposed to be able to add any more shots to that session.

But...I must be missing something in this as you did have 60 shots on the device so.....either it was a 60 shot session and only transferred 55 of them or it was 55 shots, ended and transferred, and somehow got the device to add another 5 shots to the session.

I'm sure I'm confused about some part of this...exactly how did you get 55 on the app and 60 on the device?
 
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Baron23 said:
I'm sure I'm confused about some part of this...exactly how did you get 55 on the app and 60 on the device?
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That’s what I’m trying to get answered.

I don’t “transfer” any sessions to the Garmin. Whatever procedure it does upon syncing between device and phone app is automated or doesn’t require my intervention
 
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TheOE800 said:
That’s what I’m trying to get answered.
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Yes, but what was the exact process you used? Did you end the session? If so, at that time how many shots were on the device vs in the app? Did you then shoot another 5 shots and if so, how did you get them into the closed session on the device?

I get it that you may not remember all of this in detail as its just a routine process and not all that noteworthy at the time. But, do you know?
 
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Baron23 said:
Yes, but what was the exact process you used? Did you end the session? If so, at that time how many shots were on the device vs in the app? Did you then shoot another 5 shots and if so, how did you get them into the closed session on the device?

I get it that you may not remember all of this in detail as its just a routine process and not all that noteworthy at the time. But, do you know?
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Shoot. Pause. Sync. This got me a session with 22 shots from last week. From there the phone wasn’t synced to the Garmin until I had 55 shots in that session, yesterday afternoon. I continued to shoot the same session to 60 rounds. I ended the session on the Garmin, but session on the app hasn’t updated since. There is no way to “reactivate” an ended session so I didn’t end the session and shoot 5 more, of that I am very confident.
 
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TheOE800 said:
Shoot. Pause. Sync.
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Ok, that answers my question....you can sync the app and devise (basically send the session data) if the session was paused on the device. Only having used mine 3 times (I think) I have always just ended a session and I have never paused one so I didn't see any sort of sync option/function.

Yep...I have no idea how the heck you managed that. If you figure it out, let us know.

Cheers
 
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lash said:
I finally dusted off my wallet and picked one up, because it was under $500 to my door. Just came in last night but I haven’t had a chance to look at it yet.

I’ll probably read through this thread for tips and tricks.
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If you don't mind me asking where did you find it for that price?
Thanks
 
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