Garmin Xero C1 Pro chronograph

[tucaz]

i new to chrono's and my first was a magnetospeed v3. had some shots that wouldnt clock but normally pretty good.

picked up a xero c1 last week and noticed it clocked faster on 2 of my 308 loads by 100 fps and 75fps BUT it was spot on with the 223 ammo tested.

i figure it was the magnetospeed being off because sometimes it would come loose and not read. glad to have the xero since the v3 seemed hard to get tight to the barrel and it works with everything. i have some rifles with rails out to the end of the barrel and am not interested in setting up an old school chrono.

 

[BugIn762]

Yes, you can pull session files directly off the Garmin and dump into a computer directory.
The problem is that they are not .CSV files. They are some weird Autocad raster file that is unreadable. They get converted to .CSV files when the unit auto dumps from your phone as an email.

Right now if your session doesn't autodump into Shotview you can still see the data on the Xeros.
I have hope that may change because the Garmin guy did say "currently".

Still better than anything else by a long shot.

BugIn

 

[HPIguy]

Just got in from vacation. Haven't had time to get to the range with it, but had to play with it. It clocked the salt from a freaking bug assault. It's a wild time to be alive.

 

[johnnyvw]

Wow....

Just got back from my first trip to the range with my Xero. This is my first chrono so nothing to compare it to. So simple and easy to use, and that says a lot coming from me LOL. Did 5 round samples of the 10 different 223/556 cartridges I have. Still have to sit down and sort through, but found some interesting observations as I was shooting.

edit: just downloaded a session from my phone via email, downloaded it and pulled it up in excel. Can't get much easier than what I experienced.

 

[carbonbased]

Just got in from vacation. Haven't had time to get to the range with it, but had to play with it. It clocked the salt from a freaking bug assault. It's a wild time to be alive.

But do you reload? Serious bug smashers reload and do ladder tests and use tuners and whatnot.

 

[Longshot231]

Just got in from vacation. Haven't had time to get to the range with it, but had to play with it. It clocked the salt from a freaking bug assault. It's a wild time to be alive.

But do you reload? Serious bug smashers reload and do ladder tests and use tuners and whatnot.

Iodized or non-iodized salt?

 

[TheOE800]

Iodized or non-iodized salt?

The real question is Himalayan pink or not?

 

[4O6shootist]

The real question is Himalayan pink or not?

Celtic, only way to go........

 

[HPIguy]

Iodized or non-iodized salt?

The real question is Himalayan pink or not?

Kosher, slightly bigger and heavier.

 

[mark5pt56]

Did that 50 million year old salt have an expiration date on it?

 

[Longshot231]

Kosher, slightly bigger and heavier.

Oh I get it. Sort of like 000 buck versus 00 buck. Ingenious! Bravo sir!

 

[HPIguy]

Oh I get it. Sort of like 000 buck versus 00 buck. Ingenious! Bravo sir!

Yep, pretty much. I've heard cornmeal works great too. Gonna try that next.

 

[vh20]

Will these things take out a hovering carpenter (bumble) bee?

 

[tanders11]

Is anyone moving one of these around different setups? It seems like the laser would be off if they didn’t share the same height over bore. Is my understanding correct?

 

[Rocketvapor]

Is anyone moving one of these around different setups? It seems like the laser would be off if they didn’t share the same height over bore. Is my understanding correct?

Laser, Garmin 24GHZ Zero C1?

 

[NiteQwill]

Is anyone moving one of these around different setups? It seems like the laser would be off if they didn’t share the same height over bore. Is my understanding correct?

It doesn't use a laser. It's a Doppler chronograph.

Are you asking if you can move it around between different guns? Yes, you can.

 

[tanders11]

Laser, Garmin 24GHZ Zero C1?

Oops, meant to post this in the Impact 4000 thread. Not sure how I ended up here

 

[Rocketvapor]

Oops, meant to post this in the Impact 4000 thread. Not sure how I ended up here

Ha, now stand by while you get a page or two of info about Doppler Radar .

 

[FieldGaugeFailure]

Does anyone know where to find the full update changelog for the Xero? I'm not a fan of updating for the sake of updating, and it would be nice to read patch notes for each version.

 

[NiteQwill]

Does anyone know where to find the full update changelog for the Xero? I'm not a fan of updating for the sake of updating, and it would be nice to read patch notes for each version.

@Garmin ?

 

[B y r o n]

Garmin it appears would rather not publicly document errors/enhancements or mistakes thus no change log of changes to the software.

Like a lot of you, I like to know why something is being updated especially if it covers something I don't plan on using or needing as updates are opportunities for corruption if the update process fails. Recovery from a corruption would mean sending the unit back to the manufacturer to be fixed.

 

[FieldGaugeFailure]

Like a lot of you, I like to know why something is being updated especially if it covers something I don't plan on using or needing as updates are opportunities for corruption if the update process fails. Recovery from a corruption would mean sending the unit back to the manufacturer to be fixed.

This is my exact concern. If there is something legit, like a calculation edit or battery life enhancement, sure I'll update. If it's something generic that doesn't directly impact anything in field usage, hard pass.

 

[Ichi]

Garmin does list the firmware updates for the Xero C1 on their website. But the latest update 3.21 is missing.
https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?f...64&searchQuery=software&tab=topics&textPage=1

Using the iPhone Garmin ShotView app, you can review a new/pending software update before applying the update.

On the Xero, you do have the option to Cancel the software update once it has app has connected and the Software Update screen appears.

What is unknown is that if you cancel and do not apply an update, can you skip an update and only apply the future updates that you wish.

Here are some images from the ShotView app. To view the Device info, tap the Xero icon at the top right of the Home screen.

 

[jbuck88]

I wish I would have bought one of these sooner. I had just bought a labradar though. I need to finish trimming the foam and glue the layers together. But the pelican ruck40 isn't overly large and should protect it. I had the ruck 40 already but the smaller ruck20 might fit better.

As a data point I ran my hunting load which averaged 2720fps with my labradar averaged 2727fps with the garmin. Close enough for me.

 

[FieldGaugeFailure]

Garmin does list the firmware updates for the Xero C1 on their website. But the latest update 3.21 is missing.
https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?f...64&searchQuery=software&tab=topics&textPage=1

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Using the iPhone Garmin ShotView app, you can review a new/pending software update before applying the update.

On the Xero, you do have the option to Cancel the software update once it has app has connected and the Software Update screen appears.

What is unknown is that if you cancel and do not apply an update, can you skip an update and only apply the future updates that you wish.

Here are some images from the ShotView app. To view the Device info, tap the Xero icon at the top right of the Home screen.

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I'm still on 3.17 and haven't had any stability issues in 30-40+ hours of operation. I wonder what stability issues were fixed in 3.20, or if they were induced in 3.18/3.19.

 

[Benjo]

Update I had family on holiday in Australia late January,they fetched me one back from down under,early February.its now been released in the uk but there is little to no stock

 

[secondofangle2]

I used to treat my Labgaydar like it was Joe Biden's right hip, but isn't one of the advantages of the Garmin its compact size and durability? I have a $9 soft case from amazon and I think the Garmin will outlive me in it

 

[Benjo]

I used to treat my Labgaydar like it was Joe Biden's right hip, but isn't one of the advantages of the Garmin its compact size and durability? I have a $9 soft case from amazon and I think the Garmin will outlive me in it

Yup it will definitely be fine,I just like buy cool stuff

 

[TheOE800]

I’m having an odd issue and looking for some insight from the hive mind. I’ve been pausing and resuming a session for about a week; at 55 rounds I checked in ShotView and the session was imported/updated. I shot 5 more rounds then ended the session…but the Garmin remains at 55 rounds. I’ve unpaired, repaired, synced, and reset the Garmin (20 seconds PWR button) yet this string won’t update.

 

[Baron23]

I’m having an odd issue and looking for some insight from the hive mind. I’ve been pausing and resuming a session for about a week; at 55 rounds I checked in ShotView and the session was imported/updated. I shot 5 more rounds then ended the session…but the Garmin remains at 55 rounds. I’ve unpaired, repaired, synced, and reset the Garmin (20 seconds PWR button) yet this string won’t update.

So, it exports on Pause as well and not just on End Session?

 

[TheOE800]

So, it exports on Pause as well and not just on End Session?

Well I had the session transferred while active, paused it, started it again and then checked my phone afterwards. It was an active session when sent to the phone.

 

[Baron23]

Well I had the session transferred while active, paused it, started it again and then checked my phone afterwards. It was an active session when sent to the phone.

Ok. I guess I don’t know how to transfer a session from the device to the app without ending it. I’ll play with it a bit more.

 

[TheOE800]

Ok. I guess I don’t know how to transfer a session from the device to the app without ending it. I’ll play with it a bit more.

Even if it transferred only on end…string is 60 on the unit but 55 in the app.

 

[Baron23]

Even if it transferred only on end…string is 60 on the unit but 55 in the app.

Maybe I'm not understanding....you transferred the session originally with 55 shots in the string. As far as I know, the only way to transfer the session from the device to the app is by ending the session. Then, you aren't supposed to be able to add any more shots to that session.

But...I must be missing something in this as you did have 60 shots on the device so.....either it was a 60 shot session and only transferred 55 of them or it was 55 shots, ended and transferred, and somehow got the device to add another 5 shots to the session.

I'm sure I'm confused about some part of this...exactly how did you get 55 on the app and 60 on the device?

 

[TheOE800]

I'm sure I'm confused about some part of this...exactly how did you get 55 on the app and 60 on the device?

That’s what I’m trying to get answered.

I don’t “transfer” any sessions to the Garmin. Whatever procedure it does upon syncing between device and phone app is automated or doesn’t require my intervention

 

[Baron23]

That’s what I’m trying to get answered.

Yes, but what was the exact process you used? Did you end the session? If so, at that time how many shots were on the device vs in the app? Did you then shoot another 5 shots and if so, how did you get them into the closed session on the device?

I get it that you may not remember all of this in detail as its just a routine process and not all that noteworthy at the time. But, do you know?

 

[TheOE800]

Yes, but what was the exact process you used? Did you end the session? If so, at that time how many shots were on the device vs in the app? Did you then shoot another 5 shots and if so, how did you get them into the closed session on the device?

I get it that you may not remember all of this in detail as its just a routine process and not all that noteworthy at the time. But, do you know?

Shoot. Pause. Sync. This got me a session with 22 shots from last week. From there the phone wasn’t synced to the Garmin until I had 55 shots in that session, yesterday afternoon. I continued to shoot the same session to 60 rounds. I ended the session on the Garmin, but session on the app hasn’t updated since. There is no way to “reactivate” an ended session so I didn’t end the session and shoot 5 more, of that I am very confident.

 

[Baron23]

Shoot. Pause. Sync.

Ok, that answers my question....you can sync the app and devise (basically send the session data) if the session was paused on the device. Only having used mine 3 times (I think) I have always just ended a session and I have never paused one so I didn't see any sort of sync option/function.

Yep...I have no idea how the heck you managed that. If you figure it out, let us know.

Cheers

 

[lash]

I finally dusted off my wallet and picked one up, because it was under $500 to my door. Just came in last night but I haven’t had a chance to look at it yet.

I’ll probably read through this thread for tips and tricks.

 

[Glowie]

I finally dusted off my wallet and picked one up, because it was under $500 to my door. Just came in last night but I haven’t had a chance to look at it yet.

I’ll probably read through this thread for tips and tricks.

If you don't mind me asking where did you find it for that price?
Thanks

 

[lash]

If you don't mind me asking where did you find it for that price?
Thanks

Uhm, it went up since I bought mine. Still under $500 before taxes and shipping. Sorry.

https://notjustguns.com/product-search-results?search_text=Garmin&from_form=true

ETA: link doesn’t go directly to the Xero. Just type Garmin in their search bar.

 

[Schütze]

Uhm, it went up since I bought mine. Still under $500 before taxes and shipping. Sorry.

https://notjustguns.com/product-search-results?search_text=Garmin&from_form=true

ETA: link doesn’t go directly to the Xero. Just type Garmin in their search bar.

I’d say $510 shipped is still a good deal.

 

[lash]

I’d say $510 shipped is still a good deal.

I concur and think that most would agree.

 

[Holliday]

Crappy picture but I made a screen protector out of some 3M clear-bra, that I keep around.

Then because the buttons are so counter intuitive, I broke down and made a label and covered that with clear-bra too.

 

[Schütze]

Crappy picture but I made a screen protector out of some 3M clear-bra, that I keep around.

Then because the buttons are so counter intuitive, I broke down and made a label and covered that with clear-bra too.


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The label is a great idea!

 

[Billywhizzzzz]

Anyone got any clue how to change it to ft lbs instead of joules ?

Thanks in advance .

 

[AllenOne1]

Anyone got any clue how to change it to ft lbs instead of joules ?

Thanks in advance .

Select>Settings>Units Select a unit of measure and press ok
I haven't tried this, it just what the manual says to do.

 

[lash]

Select>Settings>Units Select a unit of measure and press ok
I haven't tried this, it just what the manual says to do.

I’ve been in settings and don’t even see an option for energy, only speed.

 

[021411]

The only way I see is in the phone app setting. In ShotView’s setting page you can select Statute or Metric. Joules pops up for me when I select metric and FT-LB on statute.

 

[solidwater]

Love the Garmin Xero C1 Pro. Got rid of my Labradar after getting the Garmin.