TRG appreciation thread - Part III

DKN83 · Mar 3, 2024

Did not hear anything about the classic models being taken out of production. At least they seem to be not as dumb as AI concerning this part.

The old models are up to anything you might want to throw at them. I have been favouring the AI for a long time and am now even considering selling them due to the performance and comfort i get out of my TRGs.

The TRG is the perfect hybrid of weight, accuracy and ruggedness for me these days.

If they ever discontinue them i immediately get another TRG 22 just in case.

FUNCTIONAL · Mar 3, 2024

CerebralDistortion said:
Congrats!

Buying all available spare parts seems a bit excessive. The A1 models are the same old action in a chassis, so parts should be available for a long time.

I haven't heard of many firing pins breaking, but do as you wish. Buy a "bolt stop kit", an "extractor spring kit" and you're set.

Why the bolt stop kit? Only thing I could think of breaking is the retaining pin?

CerebralDistortion · Mar 4, 2024

FUNCTIONAL said:
Why the bolt stop kit? Only thing I could think of breaking is the retaining pin?

'Cause the pin is not sold separately... which is kind of good since the bolt stop is not hardened and if the pin brakes and you continue using the rifle (and continue to run the bolt too hard) the hole in the bolt stop gets elongated.

DKN83 · Mar 4, 2024

How many rounds do you think a TRG can take until it falls apart? There are AWs with 20 barrels on. Just curious on how long such a rifle will last. Personally i think they are more or less indestructible apart from the barrel and maybe the bolt?

PotatoeTactical · Mar 4, 2024

Bit of a foolish question but I’m looking at Sako’s oem 3 ring (34mm Low) mount
Specifically looking at S151F972.

Will I need any other mounting hardware other than this mount and the factory pic rail off? Seen several sites/forums say its pic rail, others say special mounting. Thank you
Pt

Statie07 · Mar 4, 2024

PotatoeTactical said:
Bit of a foolish question but I’m looking at Sako’s oem 3 ring (34mm Low) mount
Specifically looking at S151F972.

Will I need any other mounting hardware other than this mount and the factory pic rail off? Seen several sites/forums say its pic rail, others say special mounting. Thank you
Pt

If you mean this mount, it will attach directly to the action rail. I would go with a Spuhr or something similar over the Sako mount. It’s steel and each ring is attached to the base with a screw/bolt.

PotatoeTactical · Mar 4, 2024

Statie07 said:
If you mean this mount, it will attach directly to the action rail. I would go with a Spuhr or something similar over the Sako mount. It’s steel and each ring is attached to the base with a screw/bolt.

Just ordered the last ST-4808, its a bit tall but only option I could find left out of my trusted spots. Should be about the same or slightly lower than what I have had set up initially with the low pro rail and 1.5” mount. If not, I have a printer and extra carbon fiber filament at work to make a few spacers.

if those 3 rings come down in price to 350-400 Id cope one just for aesthetics. As they just look right.

stefan73 · Mar 11, 2024

Beretta USA has definitely not been helpful with parts from SAKO.

CerebralDistortion · May 10, 2024

This one:

TRG Rifles picture thread.....??

Dont remember seeing one.... Trg22 20" Folder,factory brake,sako bipods,Tab sling,SB 5.5-25x56,Badger m40a3 rings,Warne 20 moa base.

www.snipershide.com

I had forgotten...

DKN83 · Jun 8, 2024

Sako TRG 62 A1 - Extreme Long Range Accuracy and Precision

www.sako.global

Oh guys, massive financial desaster incoming

carbonbased · Jun 8, 2024

DKN83 said:
Sako TRG 62 A1 - Extreme Long Range Accuracy and Precision

Sako TRG 62 A1 - Extreme Long Range Accuracy and Precision

www.sako.global

Oh guys, massive financial desaster incoming

It’s times like these in which I am thankful I’m Mr. Small Caliber lol

That thing is gonna be a fortune in the States.

Edit: maybe not…I was thinking of the M10 interchangeable barrel system, which is $11k+ here.

DKN83 · Jun 8, 2024

Prefer 308 aswell since i am prone to flinching with bigger cartridges after a while, takes some practice to master my 300 winmag and 338 lapua.

However, would be great to shoot the king of 2 mile with that rifle. Apart from that it will be a big waste of money for me i guess

carbonbased · Jun 8, 2024

DKN83 said:
Prefer 308 aswell since i am prone to flinching with bigger cartridges after a while, takes some practice to master my 300 winmag and 338 lapua.

However, would be great to shoot the king of 2 mile with that rifle. Apart from that it will be a big waste of money for me i guess

Do you shoot that comp? Fly from Germany? Serious man!

As the 62 is not the M10 system maybe it’ll be just at AI levels of cash. I’ve been inured to that price, unfortunately!

DKN83 · Jun 8, 2024

carbonbased said:
Do you shoot that comp? Fly from Germany? Serious man!

As the 62 is not the M10 system maybe it’ll be just at AI levels of cash. I’ve been inured to that price, unfortunately!

We have comps like that in France aswell! A bit closer than the US fortunately. Would never spend that much money on a custom but that might do the trick. Depends on final pricing though. I am curious if they are going to offer factory ammo....

61A034 · Jun 9, 2024

I'll wait for the 50 caliber..

perttime · Jun 9, 2024

9.5 x 77, AKA .375 Cheytac

Conqueror · Jun 9, 2024

DKN83 said:
How many rounds do you think a TRG can take until it falls apart? There are AWs with 20 barrels on. Just curious on how long such a rifle will last. Personally i think they are more or less indestructible apart from the barrel and maybe the bolt?

The action? Probably almost infinite. It’s cold hammer forged and doesn’t see a lot of stress.

carbonbased said:
As the 62 is not the M10 system maybe it’ll be just at AI levels of cash. I’ve been inured to that price, unfortunately!

I think this gun will be 10k+ in the US. Sako/Beretta probably see people buying $13k AX ELRs and want a piece of that action.

jbell · Jun 9, 2024

DKN83 said:
How many rounds do you think a TRG can take until it falls apart? There are AWs with 20 barrels on. Just curious on how long such a rifle will last. Personally i think they are more or less indestructible apart from the barrel and maybe the bolt?

Are you asking about barrel life? Or the chassis, action, trigger? I shot out a factory 26” 308 TRG22 in less than 5000 rounds. All hand loads of 168-175 class bullets with moderate velocity loads (never any sign of pressure), slow ish shooting rate, cleaned often and properly. The rifle was 1/2 MOA or better for its life, never copper fouled, cleaned quickly, zero PIO shift cold bore, minimal cold clean bore, etc. then one day it opened up. I checked the load and all was good, until I measured throat erosion and compared it to the last time I had checked (with a 308 I check every 1K or so). It had jumped over 0.100”, velocities dropped off and accuracy fell off.

This was the only TRG factory barrel I took from new to dead, the rest of my TRGs either were sold or traded in good condition or had Bartlein barrels & 1 Rock Creek. It’s is just my sample of 1…

Conqueror · Jun 9, 2024

I think he was asking about the action/chassis lifespan, given the reference to AIs that are on their 20th barrel.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone wearing out any high-end rifle action.

stefan73 · Jun 17, 2024

DKN83 said:
We have comps like that in France aswell! A bit closer than the US fortunately. Would never spend that much money on a custom but that might do the trick. Depends on final pricing though. I am curious if they are going to offer factory ammo....

I have seen Stef Ber post pictures of King of the 2 Mile in France with Victrix rifles and some others. Did Poland hold a KO2M?

DKN83 · Jun 17, 2024

stefan73 said:
I have seen Stef Ber post pictures of King of the 2 Mile in France with Victrix rifles and some others. Did Poland hold a KO2M?

I think there is, currently not too informed since i wasnt really competing in this area due to the lack of a suited rifle.

I will when the TRG 62 is available though.

DKN83 · Jun 20, 2024

Nice! They seem to be producing ammunition aswell. Although i dont want to know the cost of these...

ma smith · Jun 20, 2024

Double-stack mags

DKN83 · Jul 3, 2024

Does anyone recognize the TRG bipod adapter in the video i postet above? Does not look like the one from finnaccuracy?

ma smith · Jul 3, 2024

Looks direct to MLOK ...

DKN83 · Jul 3, 2024

ma smith said:
Looks direct to MLOK ...
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Exactly, maybe they offer it when the 62 is available. Would be great for the M10 aswell.

stefan73 · Jul 3, 2024

DKN83 said:
Exactly, maybe they offer it when the 62 is available. Would be great for the M10 aswell.

That would be awesome!

DKN83 · Jul 13, 2024

Did anyone notice improved accuracy when moving from the classic TRG models (not the A1) to a M10?

My old TRGs are 0,25-0,5 with factory Lapua ammo. Cant really see any possible improvement tbh. I ordered the M10 anyways to try out but will take 6-12 months to arrive.

Just curious....

The ergonomics when handling a M10 were great, just had to give it a go.

Silvan · Aug 9, 2024

Gents,
Maybe some has a drawing of the M10 barrel extension?

DKN83 · Aug 18, 2024

Since i am thinking about getting a folder for one of my classic TRG 42 i could need some help.

Is it possible to remove that leg/monopod or is it fixed in place?

Did anyone try to use a M10 cheek piece instead of the one of the classic folder? I like the ergonomics way more....

The krg is no option since its almost as expensive as the original folder in germany. Would lkke to stay with sako anyways.

i love the ergonomics of the classic stock but sometimes i miss an option to quickly adjust LOP etc.

Cheers

JEPN · Aug 18, 2024

DKN83 said:
Is it possible to remove that leg/monopod or is it fixed in place?

Yes, it's possible. Have to do some minor disassembly on the lover half of the folder but didn't need any special tools that I recall. Got rid of the monopod pretty quickly and haven't missed it.

ma smith · Aug 18, 2024

For guys who have shot the A1 how solid is the rear-end/bag rider vs the Gen2 folder?

DKN83 · Sep 1, 2024

Still running my trusted manfrotto with hog saddle. Dry fire practice today wird only the tab gear rear support to see how it works.

carbonbased · Sep 1, 2024

DKN83 said:
Still running my trusted manfrotto with hog saddle. Dry fire practice today wird only the tab gear rear support to see how it works.

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That center column is usually impossible to really lock down and is thus responsible for wobble (camera or rifle).

That’s why you see them only on consumer-grade tripods, when quick height adjustment is the absolute priority, or in specialist rigs in which there is no other way to get the (camera) shot (close-ups of bugs/flowers).

If I were you, look at RRS or similar tripods. They mostly don’t have center columns for a reason.

DKN83 · Sep 2, 2024

Hi,

Yeah i know, its what i got first and at the moment i am looking for RRS. Those rigs are about 2500-3000 Euro though in germany.

At the moment there is a discussion to ban semi-automatic rifles. Thats why i decided to put my money there first before its too late.

Getting some proper tripod next year.

I am not using the center column due to the instability you described anyways. That way i get very few wobble.

would like to get a gamechanger aswell. Think i prefer the hog saddle though. Just trying what everyone is talking about

carbonbased · Sep 2, 2024

DKN83 said:
Hi,

Yeah i know, its what i got first and at the moment i am looking for RRS. Those rigs are about 2500-3000 Euro though in germany.

At the moment there is a discussion to ban semi-automatic rifles. Thats why i decided to put my money there first before its too late.

Getting some proper tripod next year.

I am not using the center column due to the instability you described anyways. That way i get very few wobble.

would like to get a gamechanger aswell. Think i prefer the hog saddle though. Just trying what everyone is talking about

I get it. That’s what I would do too. I didn’t even know semis were legal in Germany.

I use a RRS Vyce with my rifles that I can’t feasibly (or bear to aesthetically) attach an Arca plate to. That Vyce thing is amazing…not quite as stable as direct Arca, but pretty close.

DKN83 · Sep 2, 2024

I narrowed it down to this one...delivery will take up to 7 months but oh well...dont think i could do much better with different stuff?

This feels like moving from a bicycle to a Lamborghini

I dont have arca rails on my rifles, will stay with the hog saddle or some kind of bag for now.

carbonbased · Sep 2, 2024

DKN83 said:
I narrowed it down to this one...delivery will take up to 7 months but oh well...dont think i could do much better with different stuff?

This feels like moving from a bicycle to a Lamborghini

I dont have arca rails on my rifles, will stay with the hog saddle or some kind of bag for now.

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I have that exact setup, plus a TVC-33 mk2 with the rrs leveling head. Upon the 33 I attached a pan head (a FLM PR-15 from Germany) that has an integrated screw Arca clamp. Might be discontinued?

The 33 is also nice in that there is less stuff to unlock/lock, but it doesn’t pack as small as the 34.

I must admit, for the stuff I shoot (small varmints, pdogs & smaller ground squirrels), I greatly prefer the 33 with the pan head. I often don’t fully lock it off. It’s nice to have two independent controls for tilt and pan.

For me, the anvil is good for static stuff, but panning is not its strong suit. Others seem to make it work for what they do, not sure how.

DKN83 · Sep 2, 2024

Guys i might be able to snatch a MMRS rail for a TRG 42. I know those are almost impossible to buy these days, however i have a few concerns.

On pictures it seems like the backbone is way longer than usually. Resulting in the bipod staying in a position where i cant even reach it when prone?

I am also concerned about the balance of this system.

If anyone has first hand experience about the MMRS rails i would be glad if you could share them.

Tikkaguy · Sep 23, 2024

Tikkaguy · Sep 23, 2024

CerebralDistortion said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. You'll get nothing for nothing...

The KRG stocks are copies of the TRG with modifications. They build off of a main rail to which other component are bolted on to.

The KRG folder is excellent and folds to the left due to interference with the bolt handle.

Most KRG accessories will fit the TRG main rail with a bit of work. Not everyone will be able to modify or manufacture the parts to do this, so KRG reply with a "No" when asked.
(I've put a KRG enclosed forend for a Tikka (CTR version) on my 22. Pics in thread IIRC)

If you have a TRG, IMO there is no need to buy a complete KRG chassis. Just buy the folder and a forend. There will be some work to make the forend fit, but nothing that will deterr me (IMO).

@FUNCTIONAL
Was it the TRG that was missing the trigger guard? The KRG uses the TRG's.

I can’t seem to find those pics of the folder with the forend. Can you post in here if you still have those pics ?

carbonbased · Sep 23, 2024

Alpinebeard said:
Custom TRG in 6mm creedmoor… benchmark barrel, exhibition grade wood attached to chassis. Massive amount of work, but worth it in the end.

Just saw this puppy. Holy cow!

Tikkaguy · Sep 23, 2024

carbonbased said:
Just saw this puppy. Holy cow!

No need for viagra with that sexy sob lol

Tikkaguy · Sep 23, 2024

Also kinda wonder if the actions are the same, barrels swap bewteen the trg 22 and trg22a1. Do the the bolts/ bolt handles swap in the old revivers ? Don’t know how that would look with the new handles in the old rifles haha

FUNCTIONAL · Sep 23, 2024

Tikkaguy said:
Also kinda wonder if the actions are the same, barrels swap bewteen the trg 22 and trg22a1. Do the the bolts/ bolt handles swap in the old revivers ? Don’t know how that would look with the new handles in the old rifles haha

I think your only potential issue would be bolt handle clearance on the stock of a trg22 vs the a1. The a1 is a lot more flat against the stock vs sticking out with a older 22.

I think someone mentioned the part number for the actions is the same between 22 and 22a1.

Tikkaguy · Sep 23, 2024

FUNCTIONAL said:
I think your only potential issue would be bolt handle clearance on the stock of a trg22 vs the a1. The a1 is a lot more flat against the stock vs sticking out with a older 22.

I think someone mentioned the part number for the actions is the same between 22 and 22a1.

Yeah I would assume that you would have to cut a relief in the stock

DKN83 · Sep 23, 2024

Ordered the TRG folder for my TRG 22 and 42. Just for your information ladies and gentleman, they ask for 3700 Euro in germany. Payed that much back then for my whole TRG. Thats just insane.

Tikkaguy · Sep 23, 2024

DKN83 said:
Ordered the TRG folder for my TRG 22 and 42. Just for your information ladies and gentleman, they ask for 3700 Euro in germany. Payed that much back then for my whole TRG. Thats just insane.

That is criminal

CerebralDistortion · Sep 25, 2024

Tikkaguy said:
I can’t seem to find those pics of the folder with the forend. Can you post in here if you still have those pics ?

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