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View thread Contact supportI’ve specifically been tracking the ongoings in Eastern Europe and Ukraine with ground truth since the 2000s as a template for what might potentially happen to Finland. Putin’s internal policy that he communicated to his older Soviet-era Foreign Ministry picks from the trusted intelligentsia was that Russia was going to expand again into the Eastern European and former Soviet states, that were also Tsarist States in centuries-past. This is all well before 2008 even. I initially considered the possibility that the Foreign Ministry source was just an old Soviet blow-hard (also true), but took him more seriously after the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008.I want whatever you have been smoking, seems like you are on an intergalactic journey in your head.
This is one of those utterly false statements that keeps getting repeated and should cease really. It shows a fundamental lack of basic knowledge of the history of the last 30 years. Why do you keep posting it?why would putin plan this 14 years before the cia engineered the overthrow of the russian friendly government?
make it make sense please.
yeah, and 81 million americans voted for xiden the pedo. nope.This is one of those utterly false statements that keeps getting repeated and should cease really. It shows a fundamental lack of basic knowledge of the history of the last 30 years. Why do you keep posting it?
Short story, Ukrainians voted with an overwhelming 79% majority to trade with the EU in 2013, Putin’s puppet in Kiev did the opposite and signed onto the Russia-Eurasia Economic Pact, which kicked-ff Euromaiden protests for 4 months until Yanukovych fled. Obama’s CIA was working to help Putin here, not against him.
Longer story:
Ukraine and Moscow have been at a tug-o-war for centuries, and this really reignited once Putin got into office. There has been a constant struggle between the majority Ukrainian population and Moscow for control over Kiev that is organic to the region, not some scheme from the Russian puppets and moles within the CIA. Russians seeded the CIA before it existed with tons of doubles already in the OSS, many who claimed to come from Belorussia (White Russia), and many who were Nazis that fake-defected.
Putin sees himself as more of a Tsar, who under the Russian history and tradition must smash someone to remain powerful. This is how Putin rose to the top from the 3 Deputy Prime Ministers under Yeltsin with his scorched earth on Grozny and Chechnya. That’s why Yeltsin literally handed the throne over to him and announced it on Dec 31, 1999 on Russian state TV.
Since Russia was in such a poor state economically and in near free-fall in the 1990s, Putin had to first work on building the economy somehow. He removed the senior former KGB-gone-oligarchs who put him in power, and replaced them with 100% loyal new oligarchs who owe everything to him. They would focus on gaining more revenue though oil/NG sales and other raw materials, since Russia is not a value-added economy, in order to build up the military again.
That’s where the Ratnik modernization program came from, Sukhoi Flanker modernization, PAK-FA/Su-57, Uranium One nuke deal with Obama/Biden/Hillary, and allowing foreign oil/NG explorers to come in and help Russia get its permafrost drilling rigs set up (Russian petroleum engineers are not able to do it, only US and Canada have the tech and know-how).
When making deals with the West to bring in people who have the capabilities that Russia does not, Putin could not advertise his true intentions, and was playing Mr. nice guy, even asking about Russia joining NATO.
But control of Ukraine was imperative, using a puppet presidency in Kiev. He failed at first with Yanukovych in 2004, which triggered the Orange Revolution and election of Viktor Yuschenko instead.
In 2009, Yanukovych ran for the Presidency again and had his followers fill in Kiev’s Independence Square to intimidate anyone challenging the election results. He was doing Putin’s bidding the whole time, as he was for the pro-Russian Party of Regions, not the majority of Ukrainians.
When Yanukovych signed onto Putin’s Russia-Eurasia pact in late 2013, that triggered Euromaiden.
i doubt anyone here is "pro putin", but i suppose it is possible.For the low-information types who rely on Twitter for your information...
If you’re pro-Putin, then you love Obama, Biden, Hillary, and John Kerry, who all were/are on Putin’s payroll for decades.
The money trails are all there in the open to see, while whistle-blowers were punished, threatened, and sidelined.
Putin does seem to actually support Russia more than Biden or Trudeau support their own countries.i doubt anyone here is "pro putin", but i suppose it is possible.
we just know that every cent used to pay for this proxy annihilation of white christians in ukraine is more debt for americans.
Not many people want to get McCained.We should get this back on-topic though.
It would be interesting to chase down the Lot numbers of ammunition found among Russian snipers who have been KIA’d, then trace it back to the contracts in the US where they originated. Then you could work the paper-trail forward from there, and identify more traitors.
Looks staged but this and their war crime videos is not where they should be.
Well, it's not totally true. Ukraine had been armed and trained by NATO for around 10years now. They have NATO advisers and satellites working for them and the most complex US and French systems given to them are probably operated by some NATO guys too. We can't relabel everything for them to understand and train them on those systems fast enough. Without NATO's involvment Ukraine would have been gone 2 years ago.45-90, I don't know jack shit about any of this shit. I hear you spewing all this crap about how Russia is the greatest military in the world with all their fancy hypersonic missiles, blah, blah, blah. But here is what I do know, they can't take over Ukraine and have been bogged down in war with a third world country for 3 years and made only marginal progress. If their weapons are so great and their hypersonic missiles can't be shot down then how is this possible???
Sounds to me like you should move to Russia and lick Putins boots since you're so in love with him and Russian technology! For Godsake man renounce your American citizenship and move to Russia and jack off to Russian hypersonic missile porn!