Quite a lot of that stuff in F1 today surprisingly.
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After getting a $446m deal wouldn’t everyone slack off a bit, especially after the achievements in his career?
He had a chance today but gave about 99% wile the ones in front gave clearly over 100%, it isn’t always the car. He doesn’t really take the risk anymore it seems….. of course it could be an age thing too, or a combination of all?
Watching the mex all weekend considering his newly 2y contract was very disappointing. Wondering what RedBull is thinking signing him up again.
Overall for me it was the best race this season, I was hoping Lando gets the win. He did really well, just got unlucky with the safety car decision in for him a bad moment.
They have so many stoppages in f1 for track conditions now ..they only race in mist lol.
Not saying they should race in unsafe conditions at that speed but the day of racing in downpours are gone forever I think
They race in the rain unless there’s an incident that blocks the track…then a safety car, or in rare cases , a red flag.
I thought today’s race was pretty good, and entertaining to boot!
I’ve seen a bunch the stopped for “rivers” on the track.
If it’s draining they keep going but on older tracks or poorly graded the standing water is the shut down button. Understandable but annoying
Yeah, there is that..thought about it after typing my initial reply. I remember one race a few years ago where it was just cancelled before the end of the race, and they gave out 1/2 points.
“Modern” F1 car design, with the emphasis on aerodynamics lends itself to flat bottom tubs, set very low to the ground. I guess when there’s any standing water more than ~ an inch (whatever the current ride height minimum is), those fancy cras that can literally drive upside down if they could figure out the oiling and fueling issues, due to the aero enhancements, just turn into high-speed barges! LoL
Good race. The start was probably the most exciting part of the race. I think Lando's mistake was trying to push Max and opened it up for Russell.
No safety cars. Ham finally gets a podium.
No safety cars. Ham finally gets a podium.
Russell got the short end today. Between that slow pit stop and going to hards for the last stint it cost him a podium.
I’m still trying to understand why Checo got that new contract. He’s been mid-pack in a top tier car essentially the whole season so far.
I’m still trying to understand why Checo got that new contract. He’s been mid-pack in a top tier car essentially the whole season so far.
The Checo re-signing has been pretty confusing to me as well
Wonder how that incident will impact Lando’s and Max’ off track friendship…
Played out well for George though.
Regardless, the McClaren cars are looking very racy, and Merc seems to be getting better every race … finally.
Played out well for George though.
Regardless, the McClaren cars are looking very racy, and Merc seems to be getting better every race … finally.
Best race of the year thus far. Lots of passing. Verstappen almost pulled it off. Ham finally gets a win. Russell gives back his luck from last week.
Just like I predicted, Mercedes is going to get it figured out just in time for LH to leave. Hilarious.
The race was good, British media is as insufferable as ever.
The race was good, British media is as insufferable as ever.
McLaren’s are looking very racy … and a bit of excitement at the end with Max and Lewis
Looking at that pic, I’m surprised Max finished the race.
Looking at that pic, I’m surprised Max finished the race.
Agree 100%.McLaren’s are looking very racy … and a bit of excitement at the end with Max and Lewis
Looking at that pic, I’m surprised Max finished the race.
Why did McLaren force Lando to give the lead to Piastri? I missed the "why" during the race.
I thought Max would get a flat from that for sure, he didn’t but he was never able to catch up to Leclerc either so maybe other damage? I’m happy for Mclaren getting their shit together, Mercedes too; but what’s up with the pole swap at the end, I didn’t think Lando undercut Oscar, and if he did it was at the teams direction. Lando should have got the win
Edit: shit, Max did get around Leclerc, the racing with Hamilton last 5 laps was exciting…..I’m an idiot and don’t even remember yesterday’s race haha
Edit: shit, Max did get around Leclerc, the racing with Hamilton last 5 laps was exciting…..I’m an idiot and don’t even remember yesterday’s race haha
McLaren absolutely undercut Oscar with Lando, TWICE; the whole "we're covering off Hamilton" at the end of the race was a solution looking for a problem.
Oscar did himself no favors with an off before Lando pitted costing him 2.5-3 seconds of lead and another dropping his left wheels into gravel after he pitted that put him an extra 1.5-2 seconds back of lando, but McLaren strategy was set to fuck Oscar yet again this year in Lando's favor.
I like both drivers, and Lando did absolutely nothing wrong...but he also was only upfront due to his teammate getting screwed by pit wall. McLaren created that entire drama unnecessarily.
Its almost like Zak they've hired Ferrari strategists, maybe one of his two dozen Indycar drivers would make better calls.
Oscar did himself no favors with an off before Lando pitted costing him 2.5-3 seconds of lead and another dropping his left wheels into gravel after he pitted that put him an extra 1.5-2 seconds back of lando, but McLaren strategy was set to fuck Oscar yet again this year in Lando's favor.
I like both drivers, and Lando did absolutely nothing wrong...but he also was only upfront due to his teammate getting screwed by pit wall. McLaren created that entire drama unnecessarily.
Its almost like Zak they've hired Ferrari strategists, maybe one of his two dozen Indycar drivers would make better calls.
McLaren may have had this swap planned from the beginning (if Lando/Oscar were 1/2), given the #1 hat they had ready for Oscar during post race interviews.....They alluded to it during the Sky Sports commentary and team radio chatter, something about "........Lando, remember this mornings meeting, the team is bigger than any one driver..."
Russell was DQ'd for an underweight car.
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Not 100% sure, but apparently he ran too long on his tires and took too much rubber off resulting in his car becoming underweight.
Which is a shame, he was essentially penalized for the strategy that won him the race.
Such a bummer for George.
1.5 kilos under weight. If that was their strategy they should have been prepared. It's not an unknown thing and they know that the car is going to be weighed. There's some crazy rules about the car being weighed with an empty fuel cell but they know the rules
1.5kg is two liters of fuel...after Mercedes underfueled Russell during Hungary qualifing gotta wonder WTF is going on over there.
Kinda crazy to think marbles from an in lap can add 3.3lb to a car's weight...
Kinda crazy to think marbles from an in lap can add 3.3lb to a car's weight...
Cars have to make weight with empty fuel tanks, so whatever is left in the tank doesn’t matter.
Still not a valid excuse for a F1 team, everyone has the same circumstances in spa. And the teams know this off course from years of experience. They screwed up, that’s all there’s to it.
Ric had to go, the sun was setting on him. He just doesn't have it anymore.
But that was a pretty shitty way to send him off.
One of the nicest guys in F1. I'll miss his personality. Never embroiled in any controversy.
He's a great face for F1.
I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a role within the Redbull org that doesn't involve driving an F1 car.
Daniel Ricciardo's departure from F1 marks the end of an era defined not only by his electrifying racecraft and relentless optimism but also by his impact both on and off the track. Known for his infectious smile and charm, Ricciardo has left an indelible legacy in Formula 1 that extends beyond the sport itself.
As Ricciardo steps away from F1, he leaves behind an irreplaceable void—one filled with memories of a driver who made F1 not just faster, but also brighter.
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- Seven Grand Prix Wins: Ricciardo's ability to maximize performance in challenging circumstances is evident through his seven Grand Prix victories. His first F1 win at the 2014 Canadian GP showcased his overtaking prowess, where he surged past both Mercedes cars to claim an unlikely victory. His mastery of the art of late braking was particularly evident at the 2018 Monaco Grand Prix, where he dominated the entire weekend despite significant engine issues during the race.
- Master of the Overtake: Often called the "honey badger" for his relentless driving style, Ricciardo became synonymous with brave overtakes. He was never shy about seizing opportunities, often diving from unexpected angles to pull off audacious passes, leaving fans in awe.
- McLaren’s First Win in Nine Years: Ricciardo brought McLaren its first race victory since 2012 with his triumph at the 2021 Italian Grand Prix in Monza. It was a pivotal moment for the team and a reminder of Ricciardo’s enduring quality to deliver under pressure.
Sportsmanship and Charisma
- Positive Energy: Ricciardo’s infectious enthusiasm brought a refreshing spirit to F1. He was beloved by fans and respected by rivals not only for his speed but also for his jovial nature and respect for the sport's integrity. Rarely involved in on-track controversies, Ricciardo managed to maintain his reputation as a gentleman racer who could balance fierce competitiveness with warmth and camaraderie. His ability to laugh off difficult weekends while still maintaining his fighting spirit made him stand out in the often pressurized F1 paddock.
- Mentorship: As an elder statesman later in his career, Ricciardo became a mentor to younger drivers. Notably, during his time at Red Bull and McLaren, his guidance and openness helped teammates like Lando Norris and Max Verstappen, the latter of whom would go on to dominate the sport. His mentorship style was always friendly but competitive, creating an atmosphere of mutual respect.
Humanitarian Efforts and Philanthropy
Ricciardo’s contributions extended well beyond the F1 circuit. He is passionate about making a positive impact, whether through charitable donations, raising awareness, or being directly involved in initiatives:- Starlight Children’s Foundation: One of the most notable causes close to Ricciardo’s heart is his work with the Starlight Children’s Foundation, which aims to brighten the lives of seriously ill children. His visits to children’s hospitals, bringing them joy with his signature sense of humor, are testament to his off-track humanity.
- Saving the Children: In 2021, Ricciardo participated in an auction of race-worn items and memorabilia to raise funds for Save the Children, aiming to help children worldwide with education, health care, and emergency aid in times of crisis.
- Advocacy for Mental Health: Ricciardo has been vocal about the importance of mental health, particularly in the high-pressure environment of professional racing. He frequently talks about the need for drivers to address mental well-being, and has supported campaigns promoting mental health awareness in motorsport and beyond.
Lasting Legacy
Daniel Ricciardo’s F1 career will be remembered for more than just his talent behind the wheel. His charisma, integrity, and generosity made him a beloved figure both within the sport and in the broader global community. His fierce overtakes and race wins will be replayed for years, but his contributions to philanthropy and sportsmanship leave a lasting legacy that transcends racing. Ricciardo showed us that being a winner in life is not just about the podium finishes but about kindness, resilience, and giving back.As Ricciardo steps away from F1, he leaves behind an irreplaceable void—one filled with memories of a driver who made F1 not just faster, but also brighter.
'Cause he brings with him a shit-ton of sponsorship money.
Bingo! Carlos Slim cash, but that Constructors Title will also cost them millions, especially if Ferrari can finish in Second.
Adios to Danny Ric. I always felt he was an overated driver who was simply popular due to his personality and antics off track. I was surprised when a got a second crack at F1.
Checo cost RB the constructors championship. Hats off to McClaren, but if he had been stacking points on the board behind Max for the first half of the season RB would be in good position. There should have been a lot more 1-2 finishes for RB that first half of the season when their car was the most dominate on the field.
Checo cost RB the constructors championship. Hats off to McClaren, but if he had been stacking points on the board behind Max for the first half of the season RB would be in good position. There should have been a lot more 1-2 finishes for RB that first half of the season when their car was the most dominate on the field.
Checo brings in huge sponsorship from Latin America, especially through deals like Telmex and Claro, giving Red Bull access to key markets that consistently bring in revenue. His loyal fanbase also drives viewership and merchandise sales, which is something Red Bull can budget around more reliably than the unpredictability of the Constructors’ Championship. Even if locking in the title isn’t a sure thing, Checo’s presence guarantees financial stability through sponsorship and fan engagement, which is arguably just as valuable as titles.
I disagree. He was well above average while at RB before he left. He was smart to leave knowing that team was all about Max.
RB’s true problem is the car is designed to focus on Max’s particular driving style which limits car 2 no matter the driver. This is very similar to Schumacher back in the day, too an extent Alonso as well.
Some drivers can adopt and work around a car like a Senna, Mansell, Hamilton ,or Alonso. Others drivers are great when the planets align every so often like a Trulli, Barrichelo, Massa, Ricciardo, etc.
RB’s true problem is the car is designed to focus on Max’s particular driving style which limits car 2 no matter the driver. This is very similar to Schumacher back in the day, too an extent Alonso as well.
Some drivers can adopt and work around a car like a Senna, Mansell, Hamilton ,or Alonso. Others drivers are great when the planets align every so often like a Trulli, Barrichelo, Massa, Ricciardo, etc.
It’s crucial for teams to understand that communication between driver and engineers is essential in getting the car set up exactly the way a driver needs it, because no one else can feel what the driver feels on the track. Racing is as much about feeling and intuition as it is about speed and data.
This reminds me of the legendary Jim Clark, whose driving was so smooth and precise that his mechanics noticed parts on his car held up better compared to his teammates' cars. Clark had a unique ability to communicate what the car was doing and how it felt to him, allowing his engineers to fine-tune the setup perfectly. His feedback and feel for the car were so exceptional, they contributed to his long-lasting dominance and mechanical sympathy—rare traits in F1. He wasn’t just fast; he was in harmony with his car, and that’s part of what made him one of the greatest drivers who ever lived.
Modern drivers, like Clark, have to bridge that gap between data-driven engineering and the instinctive feel for how the car handles on a razor’s edge. Teams can analyze telemetry all day, but if they don’t listen to the driver's feedback, they’ll never get the setup just right.
