Any F1 racing fans?

[Jefe's Dope]

 

[91Eunozs]

Just watched the sprint race qualifying at COTA … Looks like it’s gonna be an interesting race weekend!

Freshly resurfaced track seems to be a challenge for the drivers, new kid Colapinto is really doing amazing things for Williams…hell, even the Haas cars are looking good!

I like their new livery too.

 

[91Eunozs]

Max walked away with the win, but what a great sprint race!

Well done Carlos! Nice way to show he’s still worthy of a seat in F1 next year… And nice work by Colapinto again today.

Best finish ever by Haas too…we’ll call that a ‘win’ for the home team.

 

[91Eunozs]

Too bad Liam’s penalty will obviate that stellar Q1 performance.

Between him and Colapinto, and a new lineup at Haas, next year could be very interesting.

 

[Dead Eye Dick]

Ferrari one - two. Last time was at the US Grand Prix in 2006 at Indianapolis. Brenda and I were there.

Stayed at a wonderful Bed and Breakfast north along the river. After the race and after we got some supper, I went for a walk on the grounds not long after dark. Never saw so many lightning bugs in my whole life. It was surreal.

Went on to visit the lake in northern Indiana where my father spent his summers growing up in the 1930’s. My grandparents lakeside cottage was still there. (Barely) We spent much time at the yacht club where our family was charter members. Folks were nice and a few even remembered our family. (Grandparents sold the cottage in 1966, two years after both their sons died at 40 and 41 years of age so that was a stretch of time.

Drove home through the mountains of Arkansas.

A race and a time to remember.

The podium (pictures reproduced from the printed pages of my 2006 journal)

 

[GlockandRoll]

i was there as wel!!

 

[91Eunozs]

Good race! No one was paying any attention to Charles until the very end of the race, after that magnificent move in the first turn, LoL… Great fight(s) for positions from second place, all the way down through the field.

And yeah, not a huge fan, but great to see a Ferrari 1-2 after such a long drought. Great to see both rookies in the points too.

Great race all around.

 

[BytorJr]

I was there in Austin, saw the controversy all with my own eyes. Lando has this habit of way overdriving his car trying to pass somebody that's got better racecraft. In Austin, he was hauling ass, had zero intention of making the turn (like he did in Austria). Max was literally maybe 4" out of bounds and lando was already 5-8 feet at the trackout point. Now the poor British press cannot get enough hate on Max. Lando has ZERO racecraft. In Austin, had he late apexed, he'd have had Max. Had he waited one more lap, he'd have had him...maybe even at turn 1.

Yesterday we saw that come to fruition. Another dive bomb by Lando into turn 4, 15KPH faster than even in his fastest lap, super late braking and no chance of staying on track. And again, Lando cannot figure out late apexing and setting up for the swap on the next corner. Yet Max gets a 10 second penalty. In Austin, CryBaby Sr's protege got 5 seconds as did that new master crybaby Lando (not to mention the total move under breaking at Turn 1 and his 4 off track excursions. Why? Because stewards are intimidated by the likes of Sky and the rest of the biased press. I'll grant you, Max royally messed up on turn 7; but I actualy think (and I see a few sites have picked up on this) he's playing chess...how can I minimize points damage.

I've said it once and I'll repeat...Drive-to-Survive RUINED Formula 1. What the heck would these whiners think about Senna vs Prost, Schumacher vs whoever was beside him or within 100 meters of him? Piquet? Mansell? And yes, for the record I was and remain a Prost fan even though I always felt Senna was the "bad guy;" but, the battles in that generation made this Lando idiot's whining look like....well...a crybaby that even puts Hamilton's crying to shame. BTW...good luck Ferrari with that...

Prediction - Max starts agression now on the outside, gets nose slightly in front at apex...totally converse to racing and most likely not possible with anthing other than a modern F-1 car.

 

[GlockandRoll]

I was there in Austin, saw the controversy all with my own eyes. Lando has this habit of way overdriving his car trying to pass somebody that's got better racecraft. In Austin, he was hauling ass, had zero intention of making the turn (like he did in Austria). Max was literally maybe 4" out of bounds and lando was already 5-8 feet at the trackout point. Now the poor British press cannot get enough hate on Max. Lando has ZERO racecraft. In Austin, had he late apexed, he'd have had Max. Had he waited one more lap, he'd have had him...maybe even at turn 1.

Yesterday we saw that come to fruition. Another dive bomb by Lando into turn 4, 15KPH faster than even in his fastest lap, super late braking and no chance of staying on track. And again, Lando cannot figure out late apexing and setting up for the swap on the next corner. Yet Max gets a 10 second penalty. In Austin, CryBaby Sr's protege got 5 seconds as did that new master crybaby Lando (not to mention the total move under breaking at Turn 1 and his 4 off track excursions. Why? Because stewards are intimidated by the likes of Sky and the rest of the biased press. I'll grant you, Max royally messed up on turn 7; but I actualy think (and I see a few sites have picked up on this) he's playing chess...how can I minimize points damage.

I've said it once and I'll repeat...Drive-to-Survive RUINED Formula 1. What the heck would these whiners think about Senna vs Prost, Schumacher vs whoever was beside him or within 100 meters of him? Piquet? Mansell? And yes, for the record I was and remain a Prost fan even though I always felt Senna was the "bad guy;" but, the battles in that generation made this Lando idiot's whining look like....well...a crybaby that even puts Hamilton's crying to shame. BTW...good luck Ferrari with that...

Prediction - Max starts agression now on the outside, gets nose slightly in front at apex...totally converse to racing and most likely not possible with anthing other than a modern F-1 car.

Pretty good summary of events, I cant say I disagree with any of this.

 

[Dead Eye Dick]

l...a crybaby that even puts Hamilton's crying to shame. BTW...good luck Ferrari with that...

If the humans running Ferrari’s racing program had a combined IQ higher than a profoundly retarded, NO, Brain Dead Rock, they would drop that contract with has been hamilton like a 100Megaton Hydrogen bomb that was set to go off Monday, October 28, 2024 at 1:45 PM Central daylight savings time. (That would be twenty minutes from the time I am writing this)

 

[BytorJr]

If the humans running Ferrari’s racing program had a combined IQ higher than a profoundly retarded, NO, Brain Dead Rock, they would drop that contract with has been hamilton like a 100Megaton Hydrogen bomb that was set to go off Monday, October 28, 2024 at 1:45 PM Central daylight savings time. (That would be twenty minutes from the time I am writing this)

100% agree on that!!!! I'd make a deal with Williams and put Colapinto in there. I think they should have kept Sainz or if releasing one, I'd likely have done away with LeClerc (tough call though, both have bouts of unpredictability).

The best I've read this weekend...Lawson giving the bird to Checo. Lawson should have been in the RB20 seat right after Spa. Though, I do think the RB20 is a piece of junk and that maybe that's why Newey left...he knew it and he was not getting his say in development as he used to so it was adios.

 

[pilotjoe]

100% agree on that!!!! I'd make a deal with Williams and put Colapinto in there. I think they should have kept Sainz or if releasing one, I'd likely have done away with LeClerc (tough call though, both have bouts of unpredictability).

I totally agree on this. I feel that, on balance, Sainz is the better driver than LeClerc. I think they made the wrong choice there. I also think the Hamilton is enough past his prime that he won't set the world on fire at Ferrari. This makes me smile!!

 

[kthomas]

I totally agree on this. I feel that, on balance, Sainz is the better driver than LeClerc. I think they made the wrong choice there. I also think the Hamilton is enough past his prime that he won't set the world on fire at Ferrari. This makes me smile!!

I think LeClerc is the naturally better/faster driver, but Sainz has amazing driving IQ.

I don't think swapping Sainz for Hamilton was a good trade at all.

I'm also a bit surprised that a team like Red Bull didn't pick up Sainz. That talent seems like it will be wasted on a Williams, but I guess that's F1.

 

[BytorJr]

I think LeClerc is the naturally better/faster driver, but Sainz has amazing driving IQ.

I don't think swapping Sainz for Hamilton was a good trade at all.

I'm also a bit surprised that a team like Red Bull didn't pick up Sainz. That talent seems like it will be wasted on a Williams, but I guess that's F1.

That's it 100%...driver IQ. LeClerc is naturally better and faster; but then again Senna was naturally faster than my hero Prost but his driver IQ probaby wasn't quite as high. Prost was also a LOT smoother if my memory isn't failing me and took into account wear & tear on car (going from 5th to 2nd directly to keep wear off the syncros and such...just nuts, but smart). The cars are different, and MUCH easier to drive nowdays me thinks, but the fundementals shouldn't be different.

Solution to the latest "controversy" is to bring back traps (the new fake gravel for instance which I suspect is lightweight and poses less chance of coming through a visor). I will say there are a lot of guys on the F1 grid who would be in the back of a Porsche Cup race!!!!! They may quali on pole; but during the race they'd get slaughtered because there is a LOT more car banging going on and raw agression. It was VERY entertaining. Though, at times a bit insane with how far off the road they'd go - even through the dirt!!

 

[Jefe's Dope]

17 to 1st. Amazing. And was so much faster than anyone else today. I also think he clinched the driver's championship. Maybe not quite yet.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

Probably the wildest race all year. And qualifying.

 

[BytorJr]

Lot’s of interesting things…
1) Lando saying it was all luck….then of course saying he’d have lapped us had he started closer to front.
2) Max destroyed British media…his dad took on by inference Damon Hill (always, even in 1994, thought he was a pompous ass), as well as Blow Hard Brundle and McLaren shill Johnny Herbert.
3) FIA tried f’ing Max over….the BS call almost immediately after Piastri let Lando pass in the sprint, claiming they were looking at Stroll’s telemetry during Quali (uhhh, bullshit). Max is racing maFIA, Snack Brown’s ties with Liberty Media, and at least 10 other drivers.
4) Max gave one of the best drives in F1 history today and hopefully shut the door on the whining P###Sy Lando Norris.
5) Ocon indeed is talented; lot’s have been written how good he was in karting & Gasly didn’t falter either. Glad Alpine had podiums!!! Truly rain is an equilizer…some idiots claiming the new engine did it for Max….nobody could use engines to full extent…so bullshit on that.
6) I remember back in either late 2016 or 2017 that I got on the Max wagon as I told my buddies…this kid is like a combination of Senna aggression and Prost smoothness - he’ll be one of the best ever in an F1 car.
7). So a breach of regulation got NO penalty points or time points for Lando….why? Had that been Max…10 seconds.

FIA/Liberty has acted disgustingly biased the last 4 months. They should embrace that Max is one of the best ever. My hero was Prost as a teen/early adult; but I have to say, Max is as good or better than he. Hard to say due to the difference in cars; but people should embrace greatness. That’s what we saw today…Greatness.