Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!

22lr AR
Trust me.
After listening to the shots, I say CCI MiniMags(thats the joke part of my post)
It was a 22Lr

If it was suppressed, almost certainly not a .22.

If not suppressed... definitely a .22.

Be interesting when we find out what it really is!

Sirhr
 
That building could have been under the local authorities area of responsibility and not the SS. All it takes is one guy to not do his job.
Absolutely a security failure but a round of applause to the shot from the agent.
To locate and engage the shooter while putting a lethal shot down in just a few seconds.
 
Well, my day started at 4 am.... so I'm going to wake up tomorrow and find out what we're being told!

All this speculating has me plum tuckered out!

Imagine what a vegetable Biden must be!


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Sirhr
 
Man I just got on the plane and we were not even in the air and Marc text me, I wasn’t even connected to the internet yet and just listening to some music not online really

I’m fucking pissed, more so because of the state of affairs we live in, I can’t say what needs to be said, it’s too dangerous to even vent what should be obvious anger, that is what they took from us.

There needs to a political reckoning, the left has to go, the commies are inside the house and something must be done. The cheat was obvious and clear, the consequences are stacking up faster than an Alaskan wood cutter preparing for winter.

Just remember, be measured in your responses, I don’t want any subpoenas asking for information cause you said something that will get you in trouble. I have deleted about 10 1/2 finished posts in and around social media cuz you can’t trust the system.

Be in the office Monday and will address some emails and stuff, I had a flood of complaints in the last week, so give me a minute

Stay Frosty Out there Folk, it’s Climate Change on Steroids
 

Am I seeing this right? Both snipers are in-scope covering the shooter and don't take a shot > shooter begins firing and then both snipers come off their guns as if they're startled and instincts are to take cover. Presumably one of them eventually shoots the guy. Think they were not cleared to engage or wtf was going on that prevented them from taking a shot before the shooter opened fire?
 
Watched the video a couple times...

Trump turns to his right to address the crowd. Shots fired. He flinches a bit and feels his ear. SS pushes him down.

If you look at the wide shot you'll see flags on the left side of the stage (Trump's right).

Flags are basically pointing straight back to the back of the stage.

I'm no good at judging wind speed by looking at flags... But it sure looks like Trump's life was saved by a full value wind.

Mike
 
Am I seeing this right? Both snipers are in-scope covering the shooter and don't take a shot > shooter begins firing and then both snipers come off their guns as if they're startled and instincts are to take cover. Presumably one of them eventually shoots the guy. Think they were not cleared to engage or wtf was going on that prevented them from taking a shot before the shooter opened fire?
Was he even back on his scope when he fired?
 
That building could have been under the local authorities area of responsibility and not the SS. All it takes is one guy to not do his job.
Absolutely a security failure but a round of applause to the shot from the agent.
To locate and engage the shooter while putting a lethal shot down in just a few seconds.
Kind of like every PRS stage ever, except that is what he gets paid to do.
 
Am I seeing this right? Both snipers are in-scope covering the shooter and don't take a shot > shooter begins firing and then both snipers come off their guns as if they're startled and instincts are to take cover. Presumably one of them eventually shoots the guy. Think they were not cleared to engage or wtf was going on that prevented them from taking a shot before the shooter opened fire?

They may have seen 'a guy on a roof' being covered by local law enforcement or cooperating agencies. In such a case, they don't want a blue-on-blue by just shooting the guy. They might have been on radio.... trying to find out if a 'friendly' was on the roof before firing. If the guy started shooting... well that would have been a surprise, wouldn't it?

Sirhr
 
Am I seeing this right? Both snipers are in-scope covering the shooter and don't take a shot > shooter begins firing and then both snipers come off their guns as if they're startled and instincts are to take cover. Presumably one of them eventually shoots the guy. Think they were not cleared to engage or wtf was going on that prevented them from taking a shot before the shooter opened fire?
That's what people look like when they are being shot at...
 
They may have seen 'a guy on a roof' being covered by local law enforcement or cooperating agencies. In such a case, they don't want a blue-on-blue by just shooting the guy. They might have been on radio.... trying to find out if a 'friendly' was on the roof before firing. If the guy started shooting... well that would have been a surprise, wouldn't it?

Sirhr
I think this is spot on, flip for a moment to be in the CS team shoes, unidentified doesn’t mean it’s not cooperating agency, etc.
 
Once upon a time there was this thing called The Hearing Protection Act back in about 2018. It seems like just before it was going to move forward to a vote, some terrible tragedy in Nevada happened and then no pol would touch it with a 10 foot pole. Regardless of Trump's survival, the calls for "commonsense gun control" will fit nicely into this discussion and I'm guessing there may be a slowdown in the rapid processing of NFA items "for the sake of the children" or some such shit. Up Next: The Hidden Dangers of Hunting Rifles (and ballistic computers, precision ammunition, laser rangefinders, etc) in the Hands of Guerilla Snipers. You heard it here first. Ok maybe not first, but you get my point.
 
They may have seen 'a guy on a roof' being covered by local law enforcement or cooperating agencies. In such a case, they don't want a blue-on-blue by just shooting the guy. They might have been on radio.... trying to find out if a 'friendly' was on the roof before firing. If the guy started shooting... well that would have been a surprise, wouldn't it?

Sirhr

Plausible. But you'd think they would know the positions of friendly in this controlled of an environment, no?
 
Plausible. But you'd think they would know the positions of friendly in this controlled of an environment, no?
You'd think. BUT.... you want to fire a shot over a campaign rally and kill an officer who happens to be out of place because they didn't follow procedure?

Guy in tactical gear on roof looks like lots of tactical gear on a roof.

The failure here is not the sniper response, IMHO. But why the hell that building was not 100 percent secured. Maybe not by a USSS detail. But cooperating (aka local/state) agencies should have had it 100 percent secured.

Sirhr

Sunday AM edit. There is a post in the other thread showing a tree between USSS and shooter. Maybe part of the reason. Image added Sunday AM 08:35.

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Once upon a time there was this thing called The Hearing Protection Act back in about 2018. It seems like just before it was going to move forward to a vote, some terrible tragedy in Nevada happened and then no pol would touch it with a 10 foot pole. Regardless of Trump's survival, the calls for "commonsense gun control" will fit nicely into this discussion and I'm guessing there may be a slowdown in the rapid processing of NFA items "for the sake of the children" or some such shit. Up Next: The Hidden Dangers of Hunting Rifles (and ballistic computers, precision ammunition, laser rangefinders, etc) in the Hands of Guerilla Snipers. You heard it here first. Ok maybe not first, but you get my point.
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