AI? Fucking hillbilly whose only ref. being masters in distilling corn to alcohol being high on meth would put his finger on that roof top. And no one single donut destroyer was placed there? yeah right…
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View thread Contact supportI think that last "shot" was the sound of the bullet impact.If you pay attention there is one suppressed(?) shot that comes way late.
Not really, one less commie either way.wrong guy?
If you listen to the cadence of the shots, it sounds like there were 3 quick shots likely by the shooter and then 4 subsequent shots (all in about 1 sec) from a different gun/caliber ... Likely not from bolt actions.
I thought the same thing until I saw this clip with the clearest audio of all the footage I’ve seen so far. In this clip, you hear 3 shots, then 5 rapid shots, all from the same rifle. A few seconds later comes the suppressed dome shot from the SS.
No thats him. He's been confirmed several times.wrong guy?
This is the guy that took out the shooter. Look at the video early in this thread, the building is the same.
There was just an ex USSS advance team guy on NewsMax who said there was one CS team that travelled with Trump's 'package.' That more could be requested but noone knows if one was requested and if it was denied.One article said 4 teams and a drone. I’m still amazed that nobody was on that building.
Saw that one too, and the second 5 shots definitely do sound different in that clip. Metal buildings do funny things to gunshots, and like the rest of the universe, everything is relevant to the observer. He could have changed position in relation to the mic that captured it (or a ground team guy could have sent those up at him). Someone smarter than me will have to sync the clips. I don’t think he stood or knelt, looks like he went to sleep in the prone position he started in, but in the aerial footage (with the ladder) you can see the rifle a few ft from the blur, and a black pack closer to the ladder.So if you can find the video a couple pages back of the woman screaming at the shooter closer to his position you hear three shots from his rifle, 5 quick shots from a different rifle, one suppressed shot then a second suppressed insurance shot that the crowd gasps at which was probably the head shot.
gotcha...thanksNo thats him. He's been confirmed several times.
Edit to add: there was another guy that was first put out on social media as the shooter who was not the guy. However, it appears ( not confirmed ) that this first guy posted something like "justice is coming" and is very affiliated with antifa as well, and as such may have had advanced knowledge of what crooks was up to. None of that has been flushed out yet that I've seem though.
wrong guy?
Caliber:
300 black, 22mag, 5.56, 220 swift or anything in-between. When we see the actual rifle we'll know. Until then it's all conjecture.
When my boys and I met the President, they had 2 agents with him, and just one more offset. That was it. 3 total. It was a small event, maybe 6,000 people. But still. We weren't questioned, or checked at all. The SS agent came up to me, wrapped his arm around my shoulder and said "Just call him by his first name, he likes that more". and off we went.Without disclosing sensitive info, would the SS be responsible for actively monitoring the area of the shooter? I spoke with a VP at a university that has had multiple interactions with SS (presidents, former presidents, front runners etc. at school functions) and the number of SS agents that come in was smaller than I expected.
Clearly they leverage local pd quite a bit, and the town of Butler has 13k people so I would imagine (a) not many local officers to leverage, (b) the ones who are there aren’t really required to be cream of the crop, and (c) doubt many have experience with active shooter situations.
It does seem like the shooting point should have been one of the first places secured prior to the event, but even when T came to Waterloo, IA (67k population) the security on site was meaningful but not necessarily plentiful.
Most interesting thing in all of this is the denied request for more SS in recent months
Or was there someone in SS snipers ear saying "Hold Fire"?I agree totally with those who view this failure of the SS to have been with those who let a fucking elevated firing position within about 165 yards be unsecured. Well, that and the approach to this building.
Kudos to whoever took the shot to take this asshole out (and I hope it fucking hurt before he expired), but the failure was with those who fucked up the security plan. On purpose...incompetence...dunno. But that's where the fuck up was.
Suppressed shots from a distance. All you're hearing is the supersonic Crack of the bullets going by the microphone.Listen to the video again.
It wasn't suppressed, that is CLEAR. From 135yds away, a 223 would have sounded like thunder.
22LR only thing I heard in the video.
Look at the shooter.
If im wrong ill eat my crow like a good boy.
......Did he accidently stumble upon a tactically sound firing position?
again, speculation or truth?
In person yes, an audio recording no. What does it sound like being downrange and perpendicular? Does it sound like thunder in all the YouTube videos you watch?Listen to the video again.
It wasn't suppressed, that is CLEAR. From 135yds away, a 223 would have sounded like thunder.
22LR only thing I heard in the video.
Look at the shooter.
If im wrong ill eat my crow like a good boy.
speculation or real? i guess we might find out later.
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The only shame is IT can only be killed once.
it looks like they see something, get behind their rifles, and wait (for 42 seconds)...until several shots are taken.That video tells nothing...
Cuts off before anything really happens.
Sirhr
In person yes, an audio recording no. What does it sound like being downrange and perpendicular? Does it sound like thunder in all the YouTube videos you watch?
Seeing a ton of people fired up online. This likely brought us 30 min closer to midnight.Yesterday afternoon we came within .1mil from the start of a hot civil war.....
Remember the start of WWI?
Those reports are now being written so the “facts” reported later will be backwards compatible. There are also several careers on the line here also, which will undoubtedly impact the “facts”.So just for the sake of discussion... let's go back to ingress?
Where did the ladder come from?
When was it put up?
Was that how the shooter got on roof?
When did he get on roof.
Did he drive himself? So is his car in the parking lot? If not, conspiracy?
Did he bring/put up the ladder himself?
Was it 'just left there' by the company (seems like a safety risk to me... not something a company would do.)
Did he get in the night/morning before and hunker down all day?
Did he walk through the crowd (who seemed to know him) with a rifle, scale the building in sight of crowd?
Did he walk through crowd knowing his rifle was on the roof because he had placed it there?
How long did he have to plan it?
What really prompted him? Mental illness? Someone on a chat board? Anger?
Why is he being called a Registered Republican when his video says "I hate Republicans."
At this point who was shooting what from where is just academic picking at zits...
The questions folks need to be asking are the ones (and many more) that we need to be asking.
I know, this is snipers hide. We are all tactics and gear. But the psychology is where this is at.
Sirhr
His name was Seth Rich, not Richards. Survived the shooting, taken out in the ICU according to an insider who worked at the hospital, though unverified.Or Seth Richards (in hospital finish after he was stable).
Someone that doesn't understand ballistics.I keep reading the shooter was “outside the rally venue.”
On a roof 135 yards from the stage.
Who set the perimeter?
Simple question.
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it looks like they see something, get behind their rifles, and wait (for 42 seconds)...until several shots are taken.
Perhaps it was a .22lr “AR style”? Sadly we may never know. It bet it gets spun as an “assault rifle”. The only evidence I’ve seen pointing the contrary is the civilian responder to the person that died, and his description of the wound. One of the rounds also severed a hydraulic line on a forklift holding up speakers about another 50-60yd beyond the stage.Sounds like all the many audio recordings I've heard, of unsupressed 22lr high vel.
Those reports are now being written so the “facts” reported later will be backwards compatible. There are also several careers on the line here also, which will undoubtedly impact the “facts”.