AI? Fucking hillbilly whose only ref. being masters in distilling corn to alcohol being high on meth would put his finger on that roof top. And no one single donut destroyer was placed there? yeah right…
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Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!
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Not really, one less commie either way.
So if you can find the video a couple pages back of the woman screaming at the shooter closer to his position you hear three shots from his rifle, 5 quick shots from a different rifle, one suppressed shot then a second suppressed insurance shot that the crowd gasps at which was probably the head shot.
No thats him. He's been confirmed several times.
Edit to add: there was another guy that was first put out on social media as the shooter who was not the guy. However, it appears ( not confirmed ) that this first guy posted something like "justice is coming" and is very affiliated with antifa as well, and as such may have had advanced knowledge of what crooks was up to. None of that has been flushed out yet that I've seem though.
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This is the guy that took out the shooter. Look at the video early in this thread, the building is the same.
It is not the SS that did it, looks like local LE.
SS guys on the roof video is strange very strange… Where is recoil for the tripod guy, lifting head off the scope dragging rifle off balance and the kneeling guy hitting the deck? I cannot discern moment those two fired also why would you lift your head off scope if impact as you should keep track of target to double check impact was good wierd shit. Imagine if hit was good how these questions we now have would be conspiracy theory and far right nut not accepting lone psycho did it. As a non religious guy i for sure am baffled really either this is some real strange simulation by someone with weird sense of humor or we just witnessed “an intervention”.
^ Those guys both in black are SS counter snipers.
There was just an ex USSS advance team guy on NewsMax who said there was one CS team that travelled with Trump's 'package.' That more could be requested but noone knows if one was requested and if it was denied.
So may not have been as much coverage as some are thinking.
Again, I don't know. Have not seen anything 'official.' Haven't seen any 'crowd' video showing other teams, though.
That said, if the roof team was oriented off-axis (or did they move when the 'hubbub' commenced and the screaming and pointing).... there should have been a team covering the crowd... from roughly the position where the roof team was. Or at least I'd think so! Again, not privy to their planning or SOP. So all guesses.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Saw that one too, and the second 5 shots definitely do sound different in that clip. Metal buildings do funny things to gunshots, and like the rest of the universe, everything is relevant to the observer. He could have changed position in relation to the mic that captured it (or a ground team guy could have sent those up at him). Someone smarter than me will have to sync the clips. I don’t think he stood or knelt, looks like he went to sleep in the prone position he started in, but in the aerial footage (with the ladder) you can see the rifle a few ft from the blur, and a black pack closer to the ladder.
The left, Cenk of the TYT, here admits defeat: that this is an act of submission, unilateral surrender, a result of when your ideas are too weak on its own but it has to resort to end you physically, and that he often called Trump a coward but here he was a brave hero and can't deny these two facts.
I keep reading the shooter was “outside the rally venue.”
On a roof 135 yards from the stage.
Who set the perimeter?
Simple question.
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On a roof 135 yards from the stage.
Who set the perimeter?
Simple question.
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OK so who here thinks the first three shots are different from the next three, the latter almost like a short burst? It was apparently the second shot that hit Trump though.
Listen to the video again.
It wasn't suppressed, that is CLEAR. From 135yds away, a 223 would have sounded like thunder.
22LR only thing I heard in the video.
Look at the shooter.
If im wrong ill eat my crow like a good boy.
When my boys and I met the President, they had 2 agents with him, and just one more offset. That was it. 3 total. It was a small event, maybe 6,000 people. But still. We weren't questioned, or checked at all. The SS agent came up to me, wrapped his arm around my shoulder and said "Just call him by his first name, he likes that more". and off we went.
speculation or real? i guess we might find out later.
So just for the sake of discussion... let's go back to ingress?
Where did the ladder come from?
When was it put up?
Was that how the shooter got on roof?
When did he get on roof.
Did he drive himself? So is his car in the parking lot? If not, conspiracy?
Did he bring/put up the ladder himself?
Was it 'just left there' by the company (seems like a safety risk to me... not something a company would do.)
Did he get in the night/morning before and hunker down all day?
Did he walk through the crowd (who seemed to know him) with a rifle, scale the building in sight of crowd?
Did he walk through crowd knowing his rifle was on the roof because he had placed it there?
How long did he have to plan it?
What really prompted him? Mental illness? Someone on a chat board? Anger?
Why is he being called a Registered Republican when his video says "I hate Republicans."
At this point who was shooting what from where is just academic picking at zits...
The questions folks need to be asking are the ones (and many more) that we need to be asking.
I know, this is snipers hide. We are all tactics and gear. But the psychology is where this is at.
Sirhr
Where did the ladder come from?
When was it put up?
Was that how the shooter got on roof?
When did he get on roof.
Did he drive himself? So is his car in the parking lot? If not, conspiracy?
Did he bring/put up the ladder himself?
Was it 'just left there' by the company (seems like a safety risk to me... not something a company would do.)
Did he get in the night/morning before and hunker down all day?
Did he walk through the crowd (who seemed to know him) with a rifle, scale the building in sight of crowd?
Did he walk through crowd knowing his rifle was on the roof because he had placed it there?
How long did he have to plan it?
What really prompted him? Mental illness? Someone on a chat board? Anger?
Why is he being called a Registered Republican when his video says "I hate Republicans."
At this point who was shooting what from where is just academic picking at zits...
The questions folks need to be asking are the ones (and many more) that we need to be asking.
I know, this is snipers hide. We are all tactics and gear. But the psychology is where this is at.
Sirhr
Or was there someone in SS snipers ear saying "Hold Fire"?
Suppressed shots from a distance. All you're hearing is the supersonic Crack of the bullets going by the microphone.
So Trump got $400 Million incoming after his convictions how much do you think this is going to net the campaign? Just saw Vivek saying corporate CEOs started calling him right after it happened to let him know they were in to help Trump.
Yesterday afternoon we came within .1mil from the start of a hot civil war.....
Remember the start of WWI?
Remember the start of WWI?
In person yes, an audio recording no. What does it sound like being downrange and perpendicular? Does it sound like thunder in all the YouTube videos you watch?
The only shame is IT can only be killed once.
Rot in hell motherfucker.
it looks like they see something, get behind their rifles, and wait (for 42 seconds)...until several shots are taken.
Sounds like all the many audio recordings I've heard, of unsupressed 22lr high vel.
Seeing a ton of people fired up online. This likely brought us 30 min closer to midnight.
Those reports are now being written so the “facts” reported later will be backwards compatible. There are also several careers on the line here also, which will undoubtedly impact the “facts”.
But if you don’t know you have a target… you don’t snap shot.
For all they knew initially it was some kid who didn’t get a ticket climbing up to see a better view of the spectacle. Like that never happens?
You don’t shoot anything that moves, contrary to what some here will say.
If we get radio logs/ recordings we will know more. Request for fire? Narrative on “I do t see a weapon” or “I see a weapon.”
You know how many “potentials” a team has to deal with in the course of an event? They don’t shoot at all of them.
When the first shot rang out, they had reason to shoot. But until then, we don’t know what they saw or what info they were trying to process.
Sirhr
Perhaps it was a .22lr “AR style”? Sadly we may never know. It bet it gets spun as an “assault rifle”. The only evidence I’ve seen pointing the contrary is the civilian responder to the person that died, and his description of the wound. One of the rounds also severed a hydraulic line on a forklift holding up speakers about another 50-60yd beyond the stage.
I don’t think you are wrong.
The. Again, the Interwebs have some good sleuths… what’s the dead shooter drive? Is the car in a video from the plant lot? That says something.
Sirhr
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