"Woulda been a bad job to take though..." In real time.Or was there someone in SS snipers ear saying "Hold Fire"?
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View thread Contact support"Woulda been a bad job to take though..." In real time.Or was there someone in SS snipers ear saying "Hold Fire"?
Nope. If they think someone is alive, the gun used by the perp is secured. This rooftop looks unsecured as lack of any personnel on the roof and presence of a gun.you don't suppose the first leo, there might have moved it in case he was still alive?
yea boot licker bull shit
That one team never had the shot…Stolen from the giant thread on arf:
I don't think so either. IMO it explains why the one was prairie dogging, likely why the other was in the modified prone position, trying to see through branches.That one team never had the shot…
yea boot licker bull shit
They were clearly tracking something on the roof but just couldn’t seeI don't think so either. IMO it explains why the one was prairie dogging, likely why the other was in the modified prone position, trying to see through branches.
Stolen from the giant thread on arf:
you really think this is getting investigated? the SS just tried to let the president get killed...maybe. should be thoroughly investigated. have all the rounds fired by the perp been found and studied?
Shadow. Look at it closely. It's in the folds. Someone pointed it out a few pages ago.Drop of blood.
This is an interesting read
She will likely get a promotion.wow, had not seen that one
unreal and she should be doing security at Walmart tomorrow
unbelievable!!!!
Yeah so much doesn’t make sense.You want to take a shot then find out the guy was holding a telescope?” the source suggested. “The Secret Service is by nature reactive…and you better be right when you do react or you’re f-----d.”
Uhh. I really hope their actual protocol is different that what is described in that piece. Pretty fucking easy to tell the difference between a telescope and an AR at 150 yards or whatever while watching through your scope. More than likely there will be an investigation that yields nothing.
You ever see an animal with thier spinal cord broken. Flop around like a chicken with no neckWeird how far away the rifle is from the body. If dude was prone when he had his melon punched, you would think the rifle would be right next to the body.
you sound mad that the 80 year old man could smoke your ass at a round of golf.Cheated an assassin's bullet yesterday, cheating at golf today.
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That's a fucking wrinkle in the clothing of the agent holding their arm around him. 2 different shades of blue there. No way in hell the shooter got 2 good shots off with the others being so wildly off target.Second bullet??
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FIFYyou sound mad that the 80 year old man could smoke your ass at a round of golf the day after they shot a hole in his ear.
Totally agree, but T has been doing a ton of events which would require more SS than he has.All areas within 1000 yards of the podium should've been scouted out in pre-event assessment and covered..
Thanks for the in depth response, hate to say the weak link was local PD, but sounds like that and at least one mistake (intentional or not) by SS lead to thisBeing in DC, we had way more resources for a sitting President than a former POTUS would, to include multiple agencies and active military units to task with all the layers. I literally had access to the podium that Clinton spoke from mere hours later, along with the whole field of the inner perimeter, so I was looking outwards at all the vantage points that surrounded the field. I had been around various dignitaries and Clinton before.
I also met George W. Bush many years later just as someone waiting with my wife to get signatures of his book, and I noticed all the security he had. For an event away from DC, SS begins planning for that well in-advance by coordinating with the local LEOs, sending plainclothes agents to conduct area surveys and risk assessments using a Red Cell approach, and all State and local LEOs are sworn to secrecy.
State Troopers, regional Federal Agents, military, and local LEOs are used to augment the security posture of the venue. All routes, vantage points, escape routes, Medevac routes, air threats, and contingencies are planned for with layers using a PACE plan.
Those buildings that have vantage points or Final Firing Positions would have been identified way before the stage was even built, and plans put in place to secure them. Since the SS has been short-staffed for Trump’s detail, that would incline me to believe that this area was covered by local PD and/or State Troopers.
* The eye witnesses outside the perimeter who saw the shooter moving into position should not have been the first ones to see him. That is the part that people will find very troublesome to digest, though it could just be a symptom of reduced SS PPD, CAT, and PC SS agents having to rely more on locals.
I was able to pick out several of the SS PC agents at the Bush event, for example, which was nowhere near the attendance size of a Trump event, but the physical area was similar in size.
Short story is SS does not just show up the day prior and start setting up. Senior agents for the ADVON party arrive weeks or even months in-advance to conduct the site survey and make coordinations with the local security apparatus. This is pretty basic stuff for SS. They have to arrange for the vehicles to be flown-in, make airport coordinations for traffic restrictions and control, conduct a full Red Cell assessment of the motorcade route to and from the venue, primary and alternate routes to walk the principle from the Limo to the holding area out of view, how the overwatch personnel will communicate "all clear" to walk to the podium, comms scheme and procedures with the local LEOs that include all the Radio freqs and callsigns between SS, State, Local, and military pax, etc. It is not an easy job at all. SS has very high stress levels, low quality of life, no family life for the PPD and VIP details.
I scrolled through the thread but didn’t go back enough pages to see the previous commentShadow. Look at it closely. It's in the folds. Someone pointed it out a few pages ago.
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Oh god. It was an AI rifle. Thats why it took so long to dome the perpetrator.
Oh god. It was an AI rifle. Thats why it took so long to dome the perpetrator.
Ah yes, both of them have ears, good catch. It's confirmed.
Look like Rem 700 - 300WM to me.Oh god. It was an AI rifle. Thats why it took so long to dome the perpetrator.
That’s two different ears. On the left is the R ear and on the right is the L ear. Considering homey was shot in the head I wouldn’t be surprised at all if his facial features were fucked up by that wound cavity created as the round passed through his head. He could’ve also had some kind of deformity or something going on with his R ear. Which might explain some of the bullying. /shrug