Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!

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A good interview... surprising as it's on MSM. Sent to me by a good dude.



Sirhr

she's not a good interview at all and has trouble addressing the question. She's really not hammering the SS but dancing around it

the building is 150yds away, it's a major fk up it was not covered and secured much the less calling in approval
 
Louisville fox affiliate WDRB website says a local cop encountered the shooter moments before the shooting. Said he retreated from the roof when shooter pointed the rifle at him.
It's been said by others too. Obviously it was an absolute shit show. Would anyone be surprised if this is true?
 
Yeah , we all know that's true without any other info. That's why they freaking denied me and made me go through a ton of crap to get a UPIN finally for absolutely zero reason after I've already been approved for 7 cans prior to. Freaking commie women. I am still waiting on 2 cans as a result and one of them it's been well over a year from initial certification.
 
Disagree. The ground team seemed really on the ball.

The people who need to be looked at are the advance team… and whoever decided not to cover the industrial plant 100 percent.

That said, I am willing to accept that a Former POTUS detail is not the same resource-wise as the full detail. And also that complacency, human error or (yes) someone’s incompetence we’re present before going “conspiracy theory.”

At least at the exec protection level.

We are looking at tactical firing positions.

I want “in” on the mind of the shooter. Who is he. Who was he known to. Background? Who/what radicalized him? Affiliations. Training. Where did he get his gun, etc. Until that is forthcoming. We are staring at pictures of buildings and lawns and second guessing a USSS team that by my accounting did pretty damn good when SHTF.

I want to know where the shit came from? And how did it get to the fan?

I'm amazed at some of the comments here. Zero analytical skills.

Hit by glass from a teleprompter:
The teleprompters are located in front of the podium to the left and right sides. Trump is behind the podium and turned to his right. The shooter is located to his right. How in the ever loving fuck could glass from either of them hit his right ear? Another JFK magical bullet? There's also plenty of video showing them intact after the shooting.

The secret service was slow to get him off the stage:
Their job is to protect and they physically covered him until they were notified that the threat was taken care of. I will guarantee you that Trump was groped from head to toe for other injuries while they had him on the ground. That's why he was telling them to get his shoes. There's a protocol to follow and rushing him off the stage to another open area is beyond stupid. Agents were moving the transport vehicle into position and until that's ready the safest place is on the ground covered by agents with vests.

Why didn't they see the shooter before the shots were fired:
He was on the down slope on the far side of the roof. Very little exposure/skylining by the shooter. Also as mentioned by @sirhrmechanic , they were assisted by the local law enforcement. The local cops may or may not have been assigned to cover that area. Secret Service putting a bullet through a local leo would not be good. Even though dude in the visor is pointing out the shooter secret service has to verify if he's friendly. The civilian has no idea who he's pointing out.

Caliber:
300 black, 22mag, 5.56, 220 swift or anything in-between. When we see the actual rifle we'll know. Until then it's all conjecture.

Shooter missed:
Twenty year old about to live out his fantasy. Twenty year old putting the cross hair or bead on a human for the first time with bad intentions. Breathing and heart rate are wildly out of control and the target is moving unpredictably. His brain says... There's the shot and then the finger pulls the trigger somewhere in a breathing cycle and rapid heartbeat while laying on his chest and stomach with God knows what kind of rifle support.

Questions to ask:
How did he get on the roof?
Did he bring a ladder, did he just find one laying around, did he stage it prior, why wasn't it noticed? I didn't notice any roof hatches to access the roof. I also didn't notice any rooftop equipment that would require regular maintenance that would necessitate a hatch.
Sorry but waiting for a call to get off the X is complete BS.
Just like are rules of engagement in the battlefield.
They have no clue if the area was secure and boots on the ground gave them plenty of opportunity to finish the job.
I give them credit for standing in front of harms way.
But to just sit there and not cover him 100% is pure BS.
Let’s hope this incident get the protocol changed and implement a secure bulletproof shelter in place right at the podium.
It’s such a easy thing to implement and very surprised it is not in place.
Hopefully this will change things for the better for all involved.
 
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Sorry but waiting for a call to get off the X is complete BS.
Just like are rules of engagement in the battlefield.
They have no clue if the area was secure and boots on the ground gave them plenty of opportunity to finish the job.
I give them credit for standing in front of harms way.
But to just sit there and not cover him 100% is pure BS.
Let’s hope this incident get the protocol changed and implement a secure bulletproof shelter in place right at the podium.
It’s such a easy thing to implement and very surprised it is not in place.
Hopefully this will change things for the better for all involved.

What do you think the optics are for a candidate who has to be in a plastic bubble?

Doubt a guy like Trump would go for it at all...

At a certain point, a politician has to be a man of the people. And to get elected cannot be a 'man in the bubble protected from the people.' Whatever the risks.

This will be hot washed for ages.... studied for years. Some folks are probably going to lose jobs. Some probably get promoted. A few maybe even medals. Deserved or not. What 'we' will find out about the tactical respons... is probably precious little. It is the 'Secret' Service. They actually take that kind of seriously!

It's not like they're Seals... ;-)

Sirhr
 
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Teddy Roosevelt Assassination Attempt October 14, 1912

For the win: Roosevelt, as an experienced hunter and anatomist, correctly concluded that since he was not coughing blood, the bullet had not reached his lung, and he declined suggestions to go to the hospital immediately. Instead, he delivered his scheduled speech with blood seeping into his shirt.
 
she's not a good interview at all and has trouble addressing the question. She's really not hammering the SS but dancing around it

the building is 150yds away, it's a major fk up it was not covered and secured much the less calling in approval
She can’t even get the facts right on what he said “Let me get my shoes” not “where are my shoes?”

 
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Teddy Roosevelt Assassination Attempt October 14, 1912

For the win: Roosevelt, as an experienced hunter and anatomist, correctly concluded that since he was not coughing blood, the bullet had not reached his lung, and he declined suggestions to go to the hospital immediately. Instead, he delivered his scheduled speech with blood seeping into his shirt.
he and Reagan are my favorites
 
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I can only add one thing to this discussion. Typical New Radical Liberal. They will fuck up a fuck up.

130 yards what a damn shit.

But, you have to know that President Trump’s life had to be and continues to be in peril. They haven’t been able to get shed of him any other way.

And prayers to the President Trump, the two who were injured and a special prayer to the family of the man who was killed.

Liberals. Not Can But Will fuck up a fuck up.

Thank GOD, it was an idiot behind the trigger.
 
trump was grandstanding with the fist thing. shows that he has big balls and is seriously in the game. the one good thing to take away is,to me,that this is not a deep state hit. i've made that opinion before. just a whacko who jumped the gun on attempts the cia/fbi had planned and prob still do.
he was in no way in the loop. msm,biden and the dem left in general are responsible because their propaganda groomed him for such. they publically called for his murder. he is not alone in that. beating a dead horse but if joe rogan,tucker or et al had called for biden's assassination they would already be dead. this FU by a nut job who had no high level tac skill put the deep state planned hit out of schedule.
i do see it odd that after the shots the crowd was all standing tall trying to get a look at things. not hitting dirt or dropping down on the bleachers. not getting your wife/kids down seems kinda retarded to me. interested to see how much forensic detail the deep state lets out.
 
Wonder why they haven’t been to Alabama. I know the answer!
They came to Cherokee Co. some years back. Getting off the busses from Atlanta the looks on their faces told the whole story. Their perception & intimidation would meet reality, here. They did not what to stay much longer, for some reason.
 
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So, according to reports.

The shooter had no criminal history. Appeared to be intelligent - won a math award? Was a registered republican. Wore an pro American tshirt in a grade school pic. Wore a demo ranch tshirt during the shooting. But donated to a far left cause in 2020?

🤯

Yea, that all "adds up".
Lots of dems registered republican to screw up the primaries.
Also don't forget he was in comercials for Blackrock.
 
Seems to me there’s a dead 20 yr old with bigger balls to take action over some keyboard pussies complaining about pussy in the USSS.

1) The shooter took all the chips to the table, went all in, he got the shot off.
2) BTW HE FUCKING HIT TARGET. No….it wasn’t a kill shot. HE GOT A HIT.
3) Hey like it or not the shooter wanted in the game. He played, he lost. End of Game. You can bet whatever element has a piece of brass in their pocket will have a story to tell the grandkids.
4) We can all Monday Morning QB the whole fucking thing top to bottom. Were you on the playing field that day???
5) Should of, would of, could of…..YOU didn’t do shit. You were on the sidelines. End of story. God knows the range Fudds are going to waste time on this shit for months to come.


Stop the games. Sit back for just ONE or ten seconds (however long it takes you). Think of the other path we ARE NOT on. For whatever reason a turn of the human head for 1 second in time saved DJT….the OTHER path …...sure looks deep, and dark as fuck to me from where we are now. Pray to whatever deity you desire.
 
trump was grandstanding with the fist thing. shows that he has big balls and is seriously in the game. the one good thing to take away is,to me,that this is not a deep state hit. i've made that opinion before. just a whacko who jumped the gun on attempts the cia/fbi had planned and prob still do.
he was in no way in the loop. msm,biden and the dem left in general are responsible because their propaganda groomed him for such. they publically called for his murder. he is not alone in that. beating a dead horse but if joe rogan,tucker or et al had called for biden's assassination they would already be dead. this FU by a nut job who had no high level tac skill put the deep state planned hit out of schedule.
i do see it odd that after the shots the crowd was all standing tall trying to get a look at things. not hitting dirt or dropping down on the bleachers. not getting your wife/kids down seems kinda retarded to me. interested to see how much forensic detail the deep state lets out.
I don't agree or disagree with that, but no high level tac skill? How did the shooter know the spot he chose would be free of law enforcement? Good guess? How did he pick that spot on a guess that it would block him from view of the CS teams? I don't think this is that random.
 
FBI/DOJ/DHS ... DNC ... Ukraine ... Trump ... Black Rock ... Shooter

State of the Union for Dummies... Just connect the dots version.
This has FBI written all over it, especially since they have been called in to investigate/cover up the truth, Las Vegas style.

The CIA and deep state hires professionals, then rigs the court system, or just disappears them and gives them a new identity elsewhere. Whereas the FBI hires kids jacked up on ssri's that can't grasp the realities of death. (Think they are a martyr)

Here's my gut sense.

This attempt was ordered by biden.
The FBI hired the guy and coordinated with corrupt SS personnel to ensure the rooftop was open, etc.
And the whole thing was funded by the deep state.(Black Rock)
Follow the money. FBi will get large funding package to 'investigate'. Certain SS members will get promotions/bonuses/book deals. The shooters family will get a large insurance payout/lawsuit winnings/Powerball winnings, etc.

Prove me wrong.