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View thread Contact supportI feel like pva are the same pretty picky. Cutting edge seems the bestI've tried a number of times to get them to shoot in a couple different rigs and just struggled. They might just be the pickiest bullets out there or I could totally be an outlier.
It's been like 2 years waiting on that barrel lol if those 241s work they would be a game changer212 Seneca has worked very well for me in a couple different barrels. I'm still waiting on new barrel to give the 241 Seneca a proper load-up effort.
.035 jumpI tried some .338 ICBM-2 ; 265 grain
Length - 1.957
Twist 9.0
BC G1 - 0.910
tried them in my TRG with 1x10 twist. I believe the twist was too slow, bullets probably want 1.9 or faster
I couldn't get them too shoot, probably pushing them too hard 3000+ (too fast, hit overpressure). I figure Berger could get their 250 grains @3k and shot great; I was hoping for about the same on the 265s
I was using 015 jump, probably needed a bit less, MORE barrel, MORE twist...
I still have them, I'll try them out again when I get a 33XC
steel head told me (back in the day) that
"015 is well within reasonable range of jump but I had better luck closer." He was using 1x8 twist
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I think your the first guy I've seen say the a-tips were best for matches. I hear bullet separation and there not consistent. My dad shoots the 230 a-tip not in matches just local stuff they seem to do fine for himJust shoot the A-Tips and win matches. Trust me
SBD2 still has a great bc too. What powder you using in 33xc and speed?I know I mentioned this another thread…I think I prefer the SBD2 at distance over the ICBM2. The added silver flash I see in the scope on impact is priceless.
Well I've been 1st, 2nd, and 1st so far this year in ELR matches using them in my 375.I think your the first guy I've seen say the a-tips were best for matches. I hear bullet separation and there not consistent. My dad shoots the 230 a-tip not in matches just local stuff they seem to do fine for him
But I know most don't think to high on them
That is very impressive. Do you shoot at Raton? I didn't mean to imply you were wrong or anything like that.Well I've been 1st, 2nd, and 1st so far this year in ELR matches using them in my 375.
I haven't made it to Randy's match's yet only shot Ko2M there. Typically shoot SpearPoint Ranch and the other was Conquer the Castle.That is very impressive. Do you shoot at Raton? I didn't mean to imply you were wrong or anything like that.
If you have the right twist and understand what is needed to obtain accuracy With their bullets, it's not a problem, but currently the icbm2 bullets are not easy to make accurate that will change soon .It’s crazy how many barrels wont shoot the BL. Maybe I got lucky w my current 1-7.5 barrel. I think the largest group I shot was .5 inch during load development.
do tell...?If you have the right twist and understand what is needed to obtain accuracy With their bullets, it's not a problem, but currently the icbm2 bullets are not easy to make accurate that will change soon .
Full ladder test .5 grain Increments. Starting at .035 off lands may require as much as .075 off landsdo tell...?
I shot mine from a 1:9 which is what was recommended for the bullets I had. Buddies also shot them from a 1:7 with similar/ same results. Like I said we didn't try much to make them shoot, literally a couple loads and they were just so big of groups it didn't even seem possible to get them to a reasonable level.
There is always a compromise between stability and BC. Going for BC at all costs and twisting them faster may work in some situations. Any shots that are into the subsonic range makes that a suspicious strategy. Lazers transition to subsonic and maintain stability at reasonable twist rates. A-Tips probably do as well but I don't think I've seen a 2 mile hit with an A-Tip yet. They are a much less common choice in Heavy gun though so this is likely a lack of data issue. NightStash can likely comment on how well they transition.Badlands also like ratchet style rifling as well and to be run a higher twist then what is minimum as per there web sight the heavier the bullet per caliber are harder to make accurate due to pushing the boundaries of bc.
Pretty sure Jacklyn hit well past 2 miles with atipsThere is always a compromise between stability and BC. Going for BC at all costs and twisting them faster may work in some situations. Any shots that are into the subsonic range makes that a suspicious strategy. Lazers transition to subsonic and maintain stability at reasonable twist rates. A-Tips probably do as well but I don't think I've seen a 2 mile hit with an A-Tip yet. They are a much less common choice in Heavy gun though so this is likely a lack of data issue. NightStash can likely comment on how well they transition.
-Alex
I have multiple hits on the clock with them at two miles or further including a fist and second round hit.Pretty sure Jacklyn hit well past 2 miles with atips
My library of stats isn't especially searchable so unless I have literally seen it, I have mixed knowledge. easier to differ to people with personal knowledge if they are around.I knew you’ve hit as well. Figured Alex deferring to you insinuated that.
Yes there are completely predictable.Seems like the a-tips are doing better than what I usually hear about them. Do they transition good into transonic ect.?
That is good to hear might revisit the 250 a-tip for my norma improvedYes there are completely predictable.
Seems like the a-tips are doing better than what I usually hear about them. Do they transition good into transonic ect.?
I shoot the 250’s from a 30 Sherman Mag and they go through trans just great. Totally predictable.That is good to hear might revisit the 250 a-tip for my norma improved
Just make sure you follow what the recommend for twist rate. With the speed of that caliber it won't be forgiving unfortunately.That is good to hear might revisit the 250 a-tip for my norma improved
1-8 twist. I shot them a little before in 30 nosler but never the norma improvedJust make sure you follow what the recommend for twist rate. With the speed of that caliber it won't be forgiving unfortunately.
Wrong jason was not the owner of badlands. he was a employee. George was 100% the owner . He was a co designerNo one is going to mention the co-founder and designer of badlands bullets being indicted and convicted on child p**n charges?
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They won't see a dime from me.
No you are wrong. And defending a convicted peice of shit.Wrong jason was not the owner of badlands. he was a employee. George was 100% the owner . He was a co designer
I am not defending jason I am how ever defending the truth. George and Shirley is 100% the owner jason never had any financial investment on the company. The purchase of the building the equipment , copper business license , ffl, all in george and Shirley name . Jason was a employee collected a paycheck. His comment on that post was un true. George and jason worked togather on designs. That's way Jason's name was on patent. . I have personaly seen all the paperwork. License and ffl. Jason's was not a vested owner or partner. Like all innocent till proven guilty. Once convicted he becomes scum. . But he was a employee it was no reflection on the owners George and Shirley who are wonderfully Christian people.No you are wrong. And defending a convicted peice of shit.
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I am not wanting to attack or defame the other owner in the company,I am not defending jason I am how ever defending the truth. George and Shirley is 100% the owner jason never had any financial investment on the company. The purchase of the building the equipment , copper business license , ffl, all in george and Shirley name . Jason was a employee collected a paycheck. His comment on that post was un true. George and jason worked togather on designs. That's way Jason's name was on patent. . I have personaly seen all the paperwork. License and ffl. Jason's was not a vested owner or partner. Like all innocent till proven guilty. Once convicted he becomes scum. . But he was a employee it was no reflection on the owners George and Shirley who are wonderfully Christian people.