Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!

Obviously the people in this thread want to discuss this subject in depth and at length.
Not speaking for anyone else here, but I personally don't know anyone in my day to day that I could discuss this with at this level. It's all deer in the headlights.
Sometimes it's just fun to work a puzzle, bs, and speculate.

The people in this thread that know me, heard me fine. Maybe I'm not talking to you.
It's already been mentioned but some didn't catch the subtleties.
This thread is FULL of soup and cereal.
And it's chumming the waters.
Not just here, but I thought folks here were smarter.
 
Sometimes it's just fun to work a puzzle, bs, and speculate.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


speculate​

verb

spec·u·late ˈspe-kyə-ˌlāt

speculated; speculating
Synonyms of speculate
intransitive verb
1
a
: to meditate on or ponder a subject : REFLECT
b
: to review something idly or casually and often inconclusively


This seems like the word you're looking for.

fantasize​

verb

fan·ta·size ˈfan-tə-ˌsīz

fantasized; fantasizing
Synonyms of fantasize
intransitive verb
: to indulge in reverie : to create or develop imaginative and often fantastic views or ideas
 
It's post like this that show how many of you don't know what you don't know. The fact he broke position at all is a failure of epic proportion... They each would have had a primary and secondary field of fire... You never come off your sector.... Why?

The fact he was scrambling at all... Clown shoe amateur hour

You completely missed the words “believe” and “guess”, in the post you quoted.
 
It's post like this that show how many of you don't know what you don't know. The fact he broke position at all is a failure of epic proportion... They each would have had a primary and secondary field of fire... You never come off your sector.... Why?

The fact he was scrambling at all... Clown shoe amateur hour

You completely missed the words “believe” and “guess”, in the post you quoted.

Also, I never said it was good or bad, just what I thought may have been the situation.


You gotta read all the words and not add any that weren’t there. Your post is a massive failure to effectively communicate. The substance has merit, regarding technical aspects of what we are discussing, but not in reply to my posts.
 
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


speculate​

verb

spec·u·late ˈspe-kyə-ˌlāt

speculated; speculating
Synonyms of speculate
intransitive verb
1
a
: to meditate on or ponder a subject : REFLECT
b
: to review something idly or casually and often inconclusively


This seems like the word you're looking for.

fantasize​

verb

fan·ta·size ˈfan-tə-ˌsīz

fantasized; fantasizing
Synonyms of fantasize
intransitive verb
: to indulge in reverie : to create or develop imaginative and often fantastic views or ideas
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The people in this thread that know me, heard me fine. Maybe I'm not talking to you.
It's already been mentioned but some didn't catch the subtleties.
This thread is FULL of soup and cereal.
And it's chumming the waters.
Not just here, but I thought folks here were smarter.
Your detective skills are lacking. As usual ignorance and arrogance go hand in hand.

I’d say stick to what your good at but the way you lie about that idk
 
If you believe Covid-19 was from a wet market in Wuhan, stick your head back in the hole.
If you believe the 2020 election wasn't compromised by the mail in ballot, stick your head back in the hole.
if you don't believe in the industial complexes, stick your head back in the hole.
This is not a war between democratrs and republicans?
This is a war between "the deep state" and it's citizens!!

If Trump was killed the replacments would have dropped back into line?
 
Your detective skills are lacking. As usual ignorance and arrogance go hand in hand.

I’d say stick to what your good at but the way you lie about that idk
Go fuck yourself.
You've always been a vapid cunt.
You've been waiting for an opening, haven't you.
Again fuck right off.
No one was talking to you, or about you.
How do you keep coming back. Have you got goat fucking pics of someone?
 
Go fuck yourself.
You've always been a vapid cunt.
You've been waiting for an opening, haven't you.
Again fuck right off.
No one was talking to you, or about you.
How do you keep coming back. Have you got goat fucking pics of someone?
You make accusations that aren’t true. I’ve seen it.

Calls into question any thing else you say.


Go back to (literally) stirring shit and then lying about the discharge levels

I improvise adapt and overcome



Weasel
 
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You make accusations that aren’t true. I’ve seen it.

Calls into question any thing else you say.


Go back to (literally) stirring shit and then lying about the discharge levels

I improvise adapt and overcome



Weasel

Careful you don't get your cape caught on anything.
 
I hope to god all my bank accounts are encrypted.

Typically any online account is behind https (encrypted) and all the data on the volumes is encrypted and the drives behind the volumes are encrypted. Passwords are encrypted.

Servers holding the data might be overseas depending on the bank.

Wise offers seemingly easy international banking options.


The encrypted banking isn't the issue, just a herring.

The real issue, if any, is how much money is in there and where did it come from?

Encryption is still legal (for now) and ubiquitous.
There's obviously quite a few email providers with high end encryption but if it is, in fact, crypto accounts they can trace anything on the blockchain back through every transaction if they want to. there's a reason the US sanctioned an app that mixes crypto and basically allows you to launder it. (its called tornado cash) read about it. A writer for Wired Magazine gave the details on the ability to trace crypto transactions and find the owners of wallets. Program was called "Reactor" I think. Podcast was Darknet Diaries ep. 131. If it was a crypto account and Iran money, they will find it. Crypto isn't as anonymous as people think.
 
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I'm really trying to keep up with details in this thread but "Facts" always seem to be split on which media story I read.
Now it's vehicles.
Fox News seems to think Crooks drove a van (videos on line) and found explosives in it.
Link for those lacking GoogleFu skills;
and
CNN seems to think "Crooks drove his Hyundai Sonata about an hour north, joining thousands of people from around the region who flocked to Trump’s rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. He parked the car outside the rally, with an improvised explosive device hidden in the trunk that was wired to a transmitter he carried, the official said"
and another link
Wired to a transmitter? That's not how this works.

SOooo, which is it??
Did both vehicles have explosives?
I fully expect to see a rented U-Haul pop up next.
 
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Shot 6 (in his video @ ~20 minutes) is likely the local LE sniper who is now reported to also have taken a shot but missed. Explains why the sound came from the left of the stage and slightly further away. If they fired more than one shot, they haven't changed the story to reflect that yet.

i thought (in the screenshot i did of the audio in audacity pages ago) shots 7 & 8 were from ss or leo as they didnt have the supersonic crack, and shot 9 (10 secs later) was the same, no supersonic crack after shot. but what sounds like tumbles (question marks i put right after shots 7 & 8, couldnt think what they would resemble. the sound and amplitude of shots 7 & 8 are lower but the same, and also sound like a larger caliber.
 
I'll look into tornado cash thanks for that.
Don't bother, the U.S. sanctioned it. No exchange will touch crypto originating from it now. The way the creators set it up, the website ran autonomously and they didn't even have access. It all stemmed from North Korea hacking some crypto exchange for like $600M in bitcoin. NK tried cleaning the money on that site. The U.S. still sanctioned the site and put them in prison even though they had nothing to do with NK stealing the money. It's the whole "blame the gun maker for the crimes of the user" scenario.
 
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I'm really trying to keep up with details in this thread but "Facts" always seem to be split on which media story I read.
Now it's vehicles.
Fox News seems to think Crooks drove a van (videos on line) and found explosives in it.
Link for those lacking GoogleFu skills;
and
CNN seems to think "Crooks drove his Hyundai Sonata about an hour north, joining thousands of people from around the region who flocked to Trump’s rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. He parked the car outside the rally, with an improvised explosive device hidden in the trunk that was wired to a transmitter he carried, the official said"
and another link
Wired to a transmitter? That's not how this works.

SOooo, which is it??
Did both vehicles have explosives?
I fully expect to see a rented U-Haul pop up next.
Wait, so the two shooters didn’t ride together? As we know the media has turned into the misinformation arm of the deep state!
 
I hope to god all my bank accounts are encrypted.

Typically any online account is behind https (encrypted) and all the data on the volumes is encrypted and the drives behind the volumes are encrypted. Passwords are encrypted.

Servers holding the data might be overseas depending on the bank.

Wise offers seemingly easy international banking options.


The encrypted banking isn't the issue, just a herring.

The real issue, if any, is how much money is in there and where did it come from?

Encryption is still legal (for now) and ubiquitous.
Passwords are hashed, not encrypted.
 
Passwords are hashed, not encrypted.

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Si, most but not all. it's a good practice but not a law.

I think what you mean is passwords *should* be hashed. Even though hashing is effectively just one-way encryption.

Either way, to the average bear, hash vs encryption is a distinction without a difference because their eyes will glaze over when you try to explain it.

You forgot to include your Clavin so I FIFY
 
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Si, most but not all. it's a good practice but not a law.

I think what you mean is passwords *should* be hashed. Even though hashing is effectively just one-way encryption.

Either way, to the average bear, hash vs encryption is a distinction without a difference because their eyes will glaze over when you try to explain it.

You forgot to include your Clavin so I FIFY
It's fine to admit you either made a mistake, or just don't know what you're talking about. I'm sure there is something else you're an expert on.

Like trolling the Bear Pit, for instance.

Oh and hashing is not "one way encryption" it is a one-way (mathematical) function.
 
i find it funny how these (vids), i think, came out after i thought about running audio through audacity (pages back) ;)
HealthRanger did the click thump analysis from video and audio from the concert area. There were two different guns based on the time lag. One was calculated at 450 yards, which would have been Mandalay Bay. Other was about 250 yards. In a 250 yard radius, there were two choice locations. A building belonging to the Catholic Church and a pile of dirt at a construction site. My pick is the latter.

In addition, there were shooter reports at several hotels.

And when Jason Aldean was on stage, it is my opinion that it was a Ma Deuce but someone else pointed it was an M240, which sounds more accurate. But they did not find an M2 or M240 on his room.
 
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I'm not picking on you @theLBC, but what's with this video being shit out over the last two pages of this thread saying there's three shooters and insinuating Lee Harvey Oswald's protege was not alone. I only watched about two-thirds of that vid because that's all I could take of his assumptions and intentional narrative steering. I thought we already established three different guns being fired on like page two or three of this thread? First volley and start of the second from the reincarnation of John Wilkes Booth and then the rest from CS squads. How is that video telling us anything new? Audacity can also be used to modify audio files, so keep that in mind when these videos pop up on X-twitter and youtube. I didn't need the audacity breakdown to tell there were three different guns involved. That last round at the 16 second mark was obviously the assurance/insurance shot from one of the CS squads. It's between shot's six and eight is where the audacity phd guy gets confused. Apparently the phd dude didn't realize that during the 2nd string was when the kill shot on the LH Oswald wannabe happened evidenced by the fact that Lee Harvey Jr. suddenly stopped shooting in the middle of that volley. Instead he's using that as the proof he needs for his conspiracy video to get likes and views. I think if a second shooter involved the fed's would be dragging his ass out and feed him to the media for the world to see to show they are doing their jobs and distance themselves from these security lapses as far as possible. The conspiracy is the intentional understaffing of Trump's security by the Biden administration to allow something like this to happen.

- Oh' for FUKS SAKE. Just as I get done typing and about to hit reply, another multiple shooter video pop's up^^^^^^ Damnit, I'm going to take a break from the internet now!