Yes, we definitely need more laws.
Because we have already proven how effective laws are at preventing people who shouldn't from possessing things like firearms, explosives, drugs ...
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Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!
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Yes, we definitely need more laws.
Because we have already proven how effective laws are at preventing people who shouldn't from possessing things like firearms, explosives, drugs ...
Why are they blurring out so much of the roof area?
He's so far away from the ridge which has a hump, did he even get a shot off? Maybe all shots came from the window? If a cop popped up to investigate was unexpected, they had to rush things or they wouldn't be able to hide the winder shooter.
good post! On this forum ask where would any of us take up as the 2nd shooter?
The first time I saw this: why is the gun so far from the body??
Im telling you if we focus we can figure this out? Dont think that the FBI or HLS will be truthful in any way. Trump has along way to go. Its obvious that there are elements in our goverment that dont want him back in the White House. Nato must not let Trump back in?
The steam account was renamed and posts were faked.
As to 4chan the "tripcode" he used was cracked as it was only two digits. Anything posted with it after 7/11/2024 is faked/shitposting.
Found the answer on the golf range finder.
The pole is 7.5 Feet, the flag is 13-3/4”, and the hole is notionally 4-1/4” deep
7.5x12” = 90”
90 - (13.75 + 4.25) = 72” or 6 feet.
DJT is 6’3”
So the golf rangefinder would have been valid on a man sized target at the podium.
Useful expedient in an urban environment.
The pole is 7.5 Feet, the flag is 13-3/4”, and the hole is notionally 4-1/4” deep
7.5x12” = 90”
90 - (13.75 + 4.25) = 72” or 6 feet.
DJT is 6’3”
So the golf rangefinder would have been valid on a man sized target at the podium.
Useful expedient in an urban environment.
He fired three deliberate shots... the last in this sequence was rushed. Trump realized he was hit by the second shot, hit the ground as the third shot flew past. The body detail swarmed and covered him as the shooter got off another 5 rapid shots, some of which struck the people in the bleacher between the shooter and Trump likely because the shooter aimed at where Trump had dropped and the people in those bleachers were in the line of sight. He was just spraying and praying at that point. Some 8 to 10 seconds after the last of the shooter's flurry of shots, one shot is heard... that was the SS sniper engaging the shooter.Sure, you got it all figured out. Do explain this to me. One guy dead with a head shot, another hit by two shots, a third with a grave hit, and a wild shot at the end that hit a hydraulic hose on the forklift holding a speaker. That’s at least five shots.
But maybe he used his Bowie knife to split a couple of the shots like in Hollywood movies.
Assuming one shooter.
Occam’s razor would suggest that when the complexity of explaining all those shots from one shooter is examined, the simplest explanation is multiple shooters.
Don’t over complicate the obvious.
Ditto conspiracy vs a long list of “coincidences.”
Occam’s razor would suggest that when the complexity of explaining all those shots from one shooter is examined, the simplest explanation is multiple shooters.
Don’t over complicate the obvious.
Ditto conspiracy vs a long list of “coincidences.”
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How bout the all what looks now to be foreknowledge collectively??
Victoria Nuland commenting about a "unpleasant surprise" that Trump won't be president hours before the rally? FBI Assistant Director in the second row smiling when the shots ring out as she starts filming? George Bush lead short sale of Trump stock? The lack of actual SS agents onTrumps SS? No canines, no drones (except now the shooter's)? How about this is the only, ONLY time CNN has ever live-aired a Trump rally (do we remember them showing up for the pre-dawn raid of Roger Stone?). Conflicting stories from local police versus Secret Service/DHS on responsibilities leaving large areas uncovered.
We can ignore 10 witnesses that saw someone on the water tower, whatever they were doing there, as normal(the water tower which is now closed off by police)? Even though there's film to back it up? We have unexplained shots on audio and an FBI that refuses to even state the number of rounds and calibers of rounds, or produce any casings? How did the body moves from the shooting position to the's deceased position on the roof?
Of course all congressional hearings will be limited by the "It's an active investigation and and we're not gonna answer anything" in perpetuity line?
I guess there's a handful of feds on here and have to toe the line, but the rest of you, really? Do you really trust the DS, after everything you know??
Victoria Nuland commenting about a "unpleasant surprise" that Trump won't be president hours before the rally? FBI Assistant Director in the second row smiling when the shots ring out as she starts filming? George Bush lead short sale of Trump stock? The lack of actual SS agents onTrumps SS? No canines, no drones (except now the shooter's)? How about this is the only, ONLY time CNN has ever live-aired a Trump rally (do we remember them showing up for the pre-dawn raid of Roger Stone?). Conflicting stories from local police versus Secret Service/DHS on responsibilities leaving large areas uncovered.
We can ignore 10 witnesses that saw someone on the water tower, whatever they were doing there, as normal(the water tower which is now closed off by police)? Even though there's film to back it up? We have unexplained shots on audio and an FBI that refuses to even state the number of rounds and calibers of rounds, or produce any casings? How did the body moves from the shooting position to the's deceased position on the roof?
Of course all congressional hearings will be limited by the "It's an active investigation and and we're not gonna answer anything" in perpetuity line?
I guess there's a handful of feds on here and have to toe the line, but the rest of you, really? Do you really trust the DS, after everything you know??
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Wait let me get my sunglasses...Ok, now what were you saying?
“I, David Walter, swear to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…”
I’ve sworn it multiple times. Still stands.
I’ve sworn it multiple times. Still stands.
We wouldn't be a second shooter, we wouldn't be any shooter, we are non-violent unless we are shot at, and you're sounding like Fed now too.
Armed forces or not: every so-called American patriot needs to familiarize themselves with these words.
You must not have significant experience with shooters and shooting. Listen to the cadence. The first shot missed. Trump pauses, likely slightly stunned by the bullet's sonic boom near his ear. This is the bullet that was captured in the photo. The shooter took just over a second to reacquire and shot again, hitting Trump in the ear. Trump reacted, touching his ear, then looking at his hand and noticing blood (as he stated at the RNC convention), then ducking and hitting the griund as the third shot is fired hastily and misses. Very quickly afterwards a fussilade of shots occurs... this is when the people in the crowd are struck. The audio indicates a total of 8 shots fired within the first several seconds. (I've played it back and counted. The last 5 cover the 4 hits on three people plus the equipment hit.) There is one shot well after this initial series, I think it's the SS taking out the shooter.
I'm sure the shooter was surprised his first shot missed. He fired again, nearly missing... and then his opportunity was gone. My bet is that he had the rifle slightly canted to the left, was straighter but still canted for the second shot. That's what happens with an optic a couple of inches above the bore centerline when it's canted... the shot is off to the side of the cant.
Thank God the shooter was a newb.
Yep. I took the oath when I was 17. The officer who led us told us while the obeying lawful orders part ended when we left the service, the protect and defend part was a lifetime oath... so think carefully before taking it.
Might be less of an issue if some cabal had not worked so diligently to every child in America from being exposed to a similar pledge.
Inches eventually equal miles.
Yes, I have shooting experience, thank you very much. I also have ears that can also detect different audio signatures as well. Thankfully all the shooters missed Trump.
Your loyalty to the narrative speaks massively on your dedication to your higher power.
So my understanding is there's three "ladders" in the picture. The one that I actually used is that big ass ladder that he know where he could've hauled himself. The Home Depot purchase is a distraction if a purchase at all, and there is permanent duct work that could also facilitate access.
Thank god the FBI had a DEI sniper on the watertower that day. Perhaps we need more DEI hires on the FBI SRT.
AOC Livestreams Hour-Long Rant: Says Nobody will Support Kamala as Biden’s Replacement and Calls Trump a “Neo-Nazi” Just Days After He was Shot | The Gateway Pundit | by Julian Conradson
AOC took to an hour-long livestream session on Thursday night, to vent her concerns over the possibility of the Democrat Party replacing Biden as the presidential nominee, and, of course, take an unhinged The rant followed just hours after Trump’s RNC speech.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Shame so many people that join the armed services with good intentions and patriotism in their hearts get sucked in and brainwashed by FBI/CIA/NSA/DHS politics enter now calling individuals with the same principles "domestic terrorists".
ok, this is really what happened.
I'm trying to pull up another post but apparently the van is linked to a visit with an ex FBI mentor who set up Paddock:
"Who drove the van with Arizona license plates? Is it just a coincidence the
shooter took a quick turnaround trip to Arizona on the same date as the
retired FBI SA was there? The same retired FBI SA who met Las Vegas
shooter, Stephen Paddock in a Pakistan café just before the..."
That part about the patriots at NSA sounds like a big dose of Hopium.
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I’m noticing that on all the corporate presstitute media excrement spigots, they keep showing Crooks’ shooting position on the other side of the roof, nowhere near where we all saw it from the helicopter video/imagery. It’s just odd that they would purposely misrepresent his location. What’s the motive for showing it in the wrong spot?
Coincidentally, it aligns with a window in the 2-story bldg behind him, which has excellent Line of Sight to the podium. If you set up an urban hide with double loopholes in there, nobody would ever see you and the shot(s) would be muffled already.
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And I can confirm that shooting inside the structure does produce an echo, I was doing so and it made me deaf for over 30 hours.
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If you think of the practical matter of it, SS are the security detail for the President, VP, First Lady, and other VIPs who are used to certain things. Clinton was one of the most difficult to protect because of his addictions, and he even escaped his SS detail at night from the WH at least once to bang some female celebrity in a parking garage in DC. He hid under a blanket in a vehicle for that one.Let's take a trip down memory lane. Raise your hand if you remember the scandal with the SS involving some soiled doves.
The stories below are posted in chronological order.
US Secret Service Cartagena scandal 'involved 20 women'
A prostitution scandal involving US Secret Service agents in Cartagena, Colombia, involved as many as 20 women, US Senator Susan Collins says.www.bbc.com
This next story from 14 years ago makes me laugh cause it's a foreshadowing of the current DEI insanity.
Secret Service Prostitution Scandal: One Year Later - Washingtonian
When Mark Sullivan retired in February as the 22nd director of the Secret Service, he surely wanted to be remembered for three decades of faithfully protecting Presidents, candidates for national office, and other high-ranking officials. But most Americans will remember...www.washingtonian.com
Five years after the revelation of bedroom fun with the "professional" women someone still remembers it.
Now let's not forget some other paradigms of virtue in government service.
Network of ‘sophisticated high-end brothels’ catered to politicians, military officials: feds
A network of “sophisticated high-end brothels” frequented by politicians, military officials and government contractors is being investigated by federal authorities, the Justice Department announce…nypost.com
I'm surprised that Garland's DOJ actually found time to go after someone else besides Trump!
...and someone in the FBI no less!
It's not necessarily a DEI problem. It's a moral problem and a lack of common sense.
One of the agents I knew who was on Cheney’s detail later told me Clinton and Greg Norman (famous pro golfer) were chasing tail at his beech resort home in Florida. The doctors said it was a really unusual tear they had not seen before. Word is he was strapped into one of those sex swings in the hucklebuck position getting wrecked by a female dominatrix, who cranked on the ratcheting strap too hard and snapped his tendon. Then they concocted this BS story about him walking along at night with Norm talking about world peace when he didn’t see a step and fell. Stories for peasants vs reality are polar opposites.
Clinton has surgery to repair tendon after fall
President Clinton underwent successful surgery this afternoon to reattach a tendon that tore from his right kneecap with a loud pop when he stumbled down shadowy steps outside the golfer Greg Norman's house in Florida early this morning.
Mr. Clinton received only an epidural anesthetic to numb his lower body during the surgery, which lasted 2 hours 4 minutes. He was never unconscious, his doctors said, and so power was never transferred to the Vice President as the 25th Amendment of the Constitution provides in cases where the President is incapacitated.
If you’re having liaisons with all this split tail, they have to be vetted through the SS, or you use the SS as a pimp service with the double benefit of more advanced databases to screen the whores. Remember when JFK was banging the East German honey pot and Hoover had the phone records between Kennedy and her? Hoover used that as his insurance policy when the Kennedy bros called him in to arrange for his retirement.
LBJ’s SS had to deal with all his tail-chasing as well.
If you think of the practical matter of it, SS are the security detail for the President, VP, First Lady, and other VIPs who are used to certain things. Clinton was one of the most difficult to protect because of his addictions, and he even escaped his SS detail at night from the WH at least once to bang some female celebrity in a parking garage in DC. He hid under a blanket in a vehicle for that one.
One of the agents I knew who was on Cheney’s detail later told me Clinton and Greg Norman (famous pro golfer) were chasing tail at his beech resort home in Florida. The doctors said it was a really unusual tear they had not seen before. Word is he was strapped into one of those sex swings in the hucklebuck position getting wrecked by a female dominatrix, who cranked on the ratcheting strap too hard and snapped his tendon. Then they concocted this BS story about him walking along at night with Norm talking about world peace when he didn’t see a step and fell. Stories for peasants vs reality are polar opposites.
Clinton has surgery to repair tendon after fall
If you’re having liaisons with all this split tail, they have to be vetted through the SS, or you use the SS as a pimp service with the double benefit of more advanced databases to screen the whores. Remember when JFK was banging the East German honey pot and Hoover had the phone records between Kennedy and her? Hoover used that as his insurance policy when the Kennedy bros called him in to arrange for his retirement.
LBJ’s SS had to deal with all his tail-chasing as well.
I recall reading accounts from an ex SS guy that talked about how the SS would screen whores for Bill on a daily basis at some back gate at the WH.
Lets get some conspiracy theories rolling, since 2020 , conspiracies turning out to be hard facts is only a matter of months 
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Bill and Hillary flew to Jackson Hole Wyoming on the 5th of july. Did they have to talk to Cheney in person about the assasination plan?
Newsman publicly apologized for running that garbage and admitted that they had "no evidence" to support the claim that this telephone call ever happened.
Five defamation lawsuits were filed relating to these baseless allegations. All of them are ongoing, having survived motions to dismiss and appeals by the defendants, or the defendants have paid settlements and agreed to apologize and admit that they had no evidence of the claims.
One of my favorite and most inaccurate theories for JFK and RFK were from my first wife. She had romantic notions.
The Kennedy bros had spent time with Marilyn Monroe, if you know what I mean and I think you do.
She was going to have a press conference and spill a large can of beans and is found dead of an overdose the day of her planned press conference.
What does that have to do with anything? So, the implication is that the Kennedy clan had her deleted.
But previously, she was married to Joe DiMaggio, a made man. You don't ever harm the wife or ex-wife of a mafioso. Ever.
Like I said, inaccurate but romantic and would have made a good movie.
Iffin’ I was in the gubment and wanted to slow down the multi shooter theories, I’d have someone out there saying “yes officer who’shisface returned fire from the ground with his service pistol/rifle” what have you, to explain away all the different gunfire sounds. Because as it sits, it sure don’t sound like walleye was the only one shooting.
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