The Fix from Q

Seems its also not compulsary to have a little decorum either.

I've had no problems from mine since I received my preorder Fix in Feb 2018.
You should buy a lottery ticket. You've got the best luck ever.
Just reading the entire thread, it a fair assessment.
People have had a lot of trouble with them & I venture over every now & again to see how things are travelling.
 
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You should buy a lottery ticket. You've got the best luck ever.
Just reading the entire thread, it a fair assessment.
People have had a lot of trouble with them & I venture over every now & again to see how things are travelling.
I know, I'm just messing with you a little. 100+ pages and there seem to be a few issues. I can say all the parts from Q are good on mine, I had a 6CM made by Tooley and it doesn't like 105 or bigger unless it's polymer tipped. It seems to be the angle of entry with a short case and long bullet. Probably needs a specific barrel extension made.
 
I know, I'm just messing with you a little. 100+ pages and there seem to be a few issues. I can say all the parts from Q are good on mine, I had a 6CM made by Tooley and it doesn't like 105 or bigger unless it's polymer tipped. It seems to be the angle of entry with a short case and long bullet. Probably needs a specific barrel extension made.
I thought Q said they were working on an extension with different geometry for 6.5 at least
 
I know, I'm just messing with you a little. 100+ pages and there seem to be a few issues. I can say all the parts from Q are good on mine, I had a 6CM made by Tooley and it doesn't like 105 or bigger unless it's polymer tipped. It seems to be the angle of entry with a short case and long bullet. Probably needs a specific barrel extension made.
Way back at the start of this thread, there are a lot of guys complaining about what looks to be design issues. I have to be clear that many other companies have released their product onto the market with obvious problems so this is not specific to "Q". This is what perplexes me.
I don't understand why a company would release products prior to eliminating the initial bugs which, are inherent in every new product, damaging their reputation, in some cases irreparably. In my mind, this shows are lack of regard for their customers.
I know there are those who's experiences were good but, upon reading the particular issues many guys had would not instil in me a lot trust, regardless of my personal experience.
A lot of the issues mentioned are of the type that leave no doubt in my mind that the issues were previously known & yet, the product was launched onto the market. In many cases, early adopters have never been compensated or had the issue rectified.
I realise everyone thinks differently & to many who own these rifles with no issues, the conduct of Q doesn't really matter.
I can't fathom why some even show righteous enthusiasm for the rifles which, are in every measure, a solution to a non existent problem.
Anyhow, each to their own & for those who consider The Fix a worthy addition to their collection, all power to you.
I'm a Baser R8 man now & what a marvelous example of design & engineering they are. Blaser could have called the R8; "Not the Fix"
Hmmm, Blaser not the fix. I like the sound of that.
 
Way back at the start of this thread, there are a lot of guys complaining about what looks to be design issues. I have to be clear that many other companies have released their product onto the market with obvious problems so this is not specific to "Q". This is what perplexes me.
I don't understand why a company would release products prior to eliminating the initial bugs which, are inherent in every new product, damaging their reputation, in some cases irreparably. In my mind, this shows are lack of regard for their customers.
I know there are those who's experiences were good but, upon reading the particular issues many guys had would not instil in me a lot trust, regardless of my personal experience.
A lot of the issues mentioned are of the type that leave no doubt in my mind that the issues were previously known & yet, the product was launched onto the market. In many cases, early adopters have never been compensated or had the issue rectified.
I realise everyone thinks differently & to many who own these rifles with no issues, the conduct of Q doesn't really matter.
I can't fathom why some even show righteous enthusiasm for the rifles which, are in every measure, a solution to a non existent problem.
Anyhow, each to their own & for those who consider The Fix a worthy addition to their collection, all power to you.
I'm a Baser R8 man now & what a marvelous example of design & engineering they are. Blaser could have called the R8; "Not the Fix"
Hmmm, Blaser not the fix. I like the sound of that.
I was an early adopter. I have number 59. I shoot .308 and 6.5 creedmoor original barrels and have had a replacement bolt from Q. My rifle has been accurate out of the box and I’m confident it will fire when I pull the trigger.

As for Blaser, I had the predecessor to the R8 the R93 I was heavily invested in that rifle which actually became 2 rifles. However after numerous fails to fire I lost faith in that rifle and the company. It is known as the Blaser Click. There are all sorts of reasons why it happens, notwithstanding it does.

Unfortunately no matter how much testing any company does you can’t cover every eventuality. Blaser never acknowledged the click. Q acknowledgement certain issues and put them right. Others were put down to user error. I think by and large if you pick any Fix, be that Mini or regular, it will function out the box now days.

As for me, I much prefer the Fix over an R8. Much lighter and the folding stock makes transport a breeze. There are aftermarket stocks for the R8 and I much admit I was tempted to try one and the thought still crosses my mind but it would be £6000 all said and done and I wouldn’t be any happier. The folding stock in the same price as a Fix!!!
 
How well does the Q fix 6.5 creedmoor factory (from Q) barrel shoot ? Is the proof barrel that much more accurate? I am referring the 16 inch barrels?
Sounded like less feeding issues with the proof barrels in 6.5. Compared to Q

Presumably they had a slightly deeper chamfer around the chamber

But my samples were from almost two years ago at this point... so maybe Q started doing better... good luck
 
I am currently waiting on a fix in 8.6 but I would probably like a 6.5 barrel. I just am not sure if the proof is worth double the price of a factory fix barrel. I am curious of real life accuracy people were getting out of the factory 16 inch 6.5 barrels. I would be shooting the hornady q40 eldm out of it.
 
Get the proof.

I’ve just changed back to my .308 Bartlein barrel and the load I worked up previously no longer groups. No idea what’s going on. Hornady white tail 150gr is half inch so i know the rifles working.
 
The factory 6.5 barrel is light and will give you sub MOA 2 or 3 shot groups. In my experience anything over that and the groups open considerably. I've had a proof 6.5 for a couple of years now and it behaves like every other proof barrel I have. Consistently accurate, really likes the berger 135 classic hunter.
 
I am currently waiting on a fix in 8.6 but I would probably like a 6.5 barrel. I just am not sure if the proof is worth double the price of a factory fix barrel. I am curious of real life accuracy people were getting out of the factory 16 inch 6.5 barrels. I would be shooting the hornady q40 eldm out of it.
Here’s the reality, I personally have never seen a person regret their proof. I’ve seen a number of people have accuracy issues with their Q barrel. So it’s up to you to decide if you want to roll the dice or not.
 
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The factory 6.5 barrel is light and will give you sub MOA 2 or 3 shot groups. In my experience anything over that and the groups open considerably. I've had a proof 6.5 for a couple of years now and it behaves like every other proof barrel I have. Consistently accurate, really likes the berger 135 classic hunter.
So, the factory barrel can give sub moa 3 shot groups? It's very tempting to try a factory barrel for the price, but seems like the proof would be the way to go. Thank you for your input.
 
How well does the Q fix 6.5 creedmoor factory (from Q) barrel shoot ? Is the proof barrel that much more accurate? I am referring the 16 inch barrels?
This is purely anecdotal, but I had some issues with my 6.5CM 16". It truly is hit or miss with the factory barrels in my experience.

1st barrel was doing something like 2MOA with 140 ELDMs. Also had a shit ton of feeding problems. Sent it in, got it back in 4 weeks with a new barrel.
2nd barrel did the exact same thing but this time it was 2-4MOA groups. Sent it in again. Sat with them for something like 4 months and I just got it back again.
3rd barrel is doing a lot better. Tried it out with the 140's again and was able to get ~0.73" groups at best (with some other 1.2" groups that had flyers). Still get a ton of feeding problems even though the RMA tech said they couldn't replicate it. But at this point I'm just happy it shoots lol

I think I'm just gonna have to suck it up and buy a proof but I'm kinda bothered that I have to drop $1000 on this already expensive rifle to make it perform like my buddy's factory tikka.
 
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This is purely anecdotal, but I had some issues with my 6.5CM 16". It truly is hit or miss with the factory barrels in my experience.

1st barrel was doing something like 2MOA with 140 ELDMs. Also had a shit ton of feeding problems. Sent it in, got it back in 4 weeks with a new barrel.
2nd barrel did the exact same thing but this time it was 2-4MOA groups. Sent it in again. Sat with them for something like 4 months and I just got it back again.
3rd barrel is doing a lot better. Tried it out with the 140's again and was able to get ~0.73" groups at best (with some other 1.2" groups that had flyers). Still get a ton of feeding problems even though the RMA tech said they couldn't replicate it. But at this point I'm just happy it shoots lol

I think I'm just gonna have to suck it up and buy a proof but I'm kinda bothered that I have to drop $1000 on this already expensive rifle to make it perform like my buddy's factory tikka.
That really stinks ! I bought the rifle for a 8.6 so I am thinking about a 6.5 barrel because I like the weight of the rifle . I have other precision rifles (so i dont need the 6.5 barrel, but would be nice to have(. I figured 1 moa would be acceptable for this rifle. But it would be really unfortunate to spend 3200 just to have to spend another 1000 on a proof barrel to get it to shoot properly. I am still waiting on the rifle. I was just tempted cause I seen the q 6.5 16 inch barrels for under 400 (less then half the price of a proof).
 
That really stinks ! I bought the rifle for a 8.6 so I am thinking about a 6.5 barrel because I like the weight of the rifle . I have other precision rifles (so i dont need the 6.5 barrel, but would be nice to have(. I figured 1 moa would be acceptable for this rifle. But it would be really unfortunate to spend 3200 just to have to spend another 1000 on a proof barrel to get it to shoot properly. I am still waiting on the rifle. I was just tempted cause I seen the q 6.5 16 inch barrels for under 400 (less then half the price of a proof).
Maybe I just got a lemon but its weird that it took me 2 brand new barrel replacements to fix the problem. It doesn't really inspire confidence. I think the accuracy as it is now (slightly under 1moa) is perfectly acceptable. The problem is how wildly inconsistent these guns seem to be. I have a friend with a Fix that has a 22" 6.5 barrel and that thing shoots tighter than a frogs asshole. Same with my old 300blk mini-fix that I sold.

Not sure how accurate this is, but I heard the problems started when Q went away from the Bartlien barrels. I haven't heard much about issues with the earlier ones from 2017/2018.

If I were you, I'd just get one of the 20" or 22" barrels. I'm considering doing that just to make the rifle heavier so it doesn't jump so much when I shoot. I wanted this gun to be a hybrid hunting/precision rifle, but it's realistically only good for hunting for that reason. Maybe the platform just isn't for me, but I really want to like it because I'm a fan of the design/ergos
 
Maybe I just got a lemon but its weird that it took me 2 brand new barrel replacements to fix the problem. It doesn't really inspire confidence. I think the accuracy as it is now (slightly under 1moa) is perfectly acceptable. The problem is how wildly inconsistent these guns seem to be. I have a friend with a Fix that has a 22" 6.5 barrel and that thing shoots tighter than a frogs asshole. Same with my old 300blk mini-fix that I sold.

Not sure how accurate this is, but I heard the problems started when Q went away from the Bartlien barrels. I haven't heard much about issues with the earlier ones from 2017/2018.

If I were you, I'd just get one of the 20" or 22" barrels. I'm considering doing that just to make the rifle heavier so it doesn't jump so much when I shoot. I wanted this gun to be a hybrid hunting/precision rifle, but it's realistically only good for hunting for that reason. Maybe the platform just isn't for me, but I really want to like it because I'm a fan of the design/ergos
Do you shoot with a suppressor on? I wanted a 16 inch for it to be short with the suppressor. I love the way it feels with the 12 inch 8.6 barrel on (haven't received it yet or shot it yet).

I watched the kit bager review and his groups seemed to be around 1.5-2 inch groups. Is that what you were getting? It makes me reconsider getting a 6.5 creedmoor barrel for it. The proof sounds like it's the way to go but pretty expensive.
 
Get the proof.

I’ve just changed back to my .308 Bartlein barrel and the load I worked up previously no longer groups. No idea what’s going on. Hornady white tail 150gr is half inch so i know the rifles working.
I have the original Bartlein 308 and it would only shoot 175 FGMM(2400 fps) for the longest time. I switched to a Bartlein 6CM and that's awesome, up to a certain bullet length. Installed the 308 for hunting season and now it likes the Norma 150gr soft points and Hornady 150gr SST all of a sudden. Both of these rounds shoot within an inch of each other at 100yds with about 0.5 mil drop at 200yds. Still does not Hornady 178 ELD-X though.

I don't torque the barrel to spec, doesn't seem to make a difference, but I torque everything else to 40 in/lbs. Shot a 0.5" ish group sighting it in at 100yds with Norma 150's and maybe 0.75" with the SST. Mine seems to like slower 308 rounds like the FGMM and the Norma.

I'm going to test some 168 Hornady BTHP and lighter than 150gr and see what happens.
 
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What's the current word on recent production Q Fix ?
Against my best judgement, I'm thinking about selling my Bartlein 300BLK anTI / Porksword and considering a 16in 6.5 creedmoor/12in 8.6 blackout but seems like they are not "shooters"