Question about the KRG Bravo

9245 · Aug 22, 2024

I’m considering getting a KRG Bravo for a Howa 1500 barreled action, but have a question.

It looks like the Bravo is in two halves and that the trigger guard is connected to the front half and the action screw goes though that and the rear half is just held on by one screw, is that correct?

If so, could that be utilized as a removable butt stock in leu of a side folder? I’m thinking it could be stored detached and then simply screwed back on at the range with a pocket torque wrench. Am I off base?

How sturdy is it if it’s only held together with one screw?

Coejro · Aug 22, 2024

Can’t answer for the psuedo folder part, but it’s super sturdy. Zero flex.

Krazy_jim · Aug 23, 2024

Probably easier to separate the barreled action from the chassis, then removing the back half of the chassis

9245 · Aug 23, 2024

Krazy_jim said:
Probably easier to separate the barreled action from the chassis, then removing the back half of the chassis

3 screws vs 1 screw

Evintos · Aug 23, 2024

9245 said:
I’m considering getting a KRG Bravo for a Howa 1500 barreled action, but have a question.

It looks like the Bravo is in two halves and that the trigger guard is connected to the front half and the action screw goes though that and the rear half is just held on by one screw, is that correct?

If so, could that be utilized as a removable butt stock in leu of a side folder? I’m thinking it could be stored detached and then simply screwed back on at the range with a pocket torque wrench. Am I off base?

How sturdy is it if it’s only held together with one screw?

Incorrect. The stock is held in by two bolts. The rear action bolt (the one that goes through the trigger guard) also screws into the stock portion. When you're installing, the action (and thus trigger guard), should be bolted and torqued onto the backbone (65 in-lb) before the rear stock screw (seen from the top of the rifle, behind the bolt shroud) is torqued (45 in-lb)

What you want to accomplish can be done though, just retorque everything with a good torque wrench back to consistent and proper values.

9245 · Aug 23, 2024

Evintos said:
Incorrect. The stock is held in by two bolts. The rear action bolt (the one that goes through the trigger guard) also screws into the stock portion. When you're installing, the action (and thus trigger guard), should be bolted and torqued onto the backbone (65 in-lb) before the rear stock screw (seen from the top of the rifle, behind the bolt shroud) is torqued (45 in-lb)

What you want to accomplish can be done though, just retorque everything with a good torque wrench back to consistent and proper values.

Thanks, I wasn’t sure, the review I saw that mentioned it wasn’t exactly clear, it looked like the trigger guard screw just screwed directly into the backbone.

Any recommendations on a good pocket sized torque wrench (preferably electric) that doesn’t cost a fortune? (I.E. Stanley, the wrench alone costs damn near as much as the Bravo itself lol)

Evintos · Aug 23, 2024

Not digital but Fix it Sticks All-In-One kit is a nice compact kit that should have most of what you need for firearms (you may need to buy a couple of bits if the included ones aren't the right size for some of your firearms).

9245 · Aug 28, 2024

I just talked to KRG and they mentioned the possibility of losing zero every time the rear was removed and reattached, thoughts?

Would this have an effect on zero?

spife7980 · Aug 28, 2024

9245 said:
I just talked to KRG and they mentioned the possibility of losing zero every time the rear was removed and reattached, thoughts?

Would this have an effect on zero?

Yes. If you undo the action screws the action will not be held in the same place.

9245 · Aug 28, 2024

spife7980 said:
Yes. If you undo the action screws the action will not be held in the same place.

Well then that would kill this idea then if I would have to rezero every time I go to the range.

usafa77 · Aug 29, 2024

It’s going to be a small amount off. Wheeler FAT wrench for torque

Shifty6BR · Aug 30, 2024

I am missing why one would want to remove and then reinstall the rear assembly for transport....if you want a folder than get a folder...hence the term fixed.

9245 · Aug 30, 2024

Shifty6BR said:
I am missing why one would want to remove and then reinstall the rear assembly for transport....if you want a folder than get a folder...hence the term fixed.

Because the cheapest folding option that I could find was the MDT LSS, so $429 for the cheapest version, plus $20 or so for a grip, plus $170 for the folding mechanism, plus about $25 for a buffer tube and castle nut, plus another $150 or so for a stock, equals about $794, or $894 if you want the XL version of the LSS, vs. $400 for the KRG, that’s why not “just get a folder,” $594, more than twice the price, that’s why. If transport is the only goal and you aren’t concerned about having to put it back together, then folding has no advantage over detachable, unless the detachable throws off the zero, as is the case here.

Im2bent · Aug 30, 2024

Why does it need to be smaller for transport?

9245 · Aug 30, 2024

Im2bent said:
Why does it need to be smaller for transport?

Big case vs small case, cheap case vs expensive case mostly. Also when I travel I prefer discrete cases, less chance for things getting “lost” in baggage or walking away from my car if I have to make a stop somewhere, rifle cases are very obviously rifle cases. Ditto for antigun Karens or Homey D. Clown who might observe me loading up/unloading from a range trip and either try to start shit or know which house to break in to. For context I live in an area that seems to be about half and half of each, pearl clutchers on one side and wannabe thugs on the other. Sometimes discretion is the best policy to avoid potential issues.

308pirate · Aug 30, 2024

9245 said:
Big case vs small case, cheap case vs expensive case mostly. Also when I travel I prefer discrete cases, less chance for things getting “lost” in baggage or walking away from my car if I have to make a stop somewhere, rifle cases are very obviously rifle cases. Ditto for antigun Karens or Homey D. Clown who might observe me loading up/unloading from a range trip and either try to start shit or know which house to break in to. For context I live in an area that seems to be about half and half of each, pearl clutchers on one side and wannabe thugs on the other. Sometimes discretion is the best policy to avoid potential issues.

You're a retard

9245 · Aug 31, 2024

308pirate said:
You're a retard

Care to elaborate on that intelligent and well thought out response of yours? What exactly do you find “retarded” about that response that you quoted?

308pirate · Aug 31, 2024

9245 said:
What exactly do you find “retarded” about that response that you quoted?

Everything.

You live in a fantasy

stanley_white · Aug 31, 2024

308pirate said:
Everything.

You live in a fantasy

-Stan

308pirate · Aug 31, 2024

stanley_white said:
-Stan

Saw that one a few days ago. You nailed it.

Grey man aka ccw man. Lol

9245 · Sep 1, 2024

308pirate said:
Everything.

You live in a fantasy

It’s a fantasy that antigun Karens like to start shit and stir up trouble? It’s a fantasy that ghetto goblin thugs like to steal shit and guns are prime targets for theft? Because I live near both. I would love nothing more than to live in a rural area or have an attached garage but I do not. I live in a dense area with street parking, a moderately high crime rate, and neighbors just feet away. Heck, when I moved in here one of the first things I noticed was that the front door frame was previously cracked and repaired after being kicked open at some point in the past. When I step outside at night I am greeted by an extremely pungent odor that tells me that either there is an unseen angry skunk in the immediate area or my next door neighbors are getting roasted… again.

MDof2 · Sep 1, 2024

9245 said:
It’s a fantasy that antigun Karens like to start shit and stir up trouble? It’s a fantasy that ghetto goblin thugs like to steal shit and guns are prime targets for theft? Because I live near both. I would love nothing more than to live in a rural area or have an attached garage but I do not. I live in a dense area with street parking, a moderately high crime rate, and neighbors just feet away. Heck, when I moved in here one of the first things I noticed was that the front door frame was previously cracked and repaired after being kicked open at some point in the past. When I step outside at night I am greeted by an extremely pungent odor that tells me that either there is an unseen angry skunk in the immediate area or my next door neighbors are getting roasted… again.

no more a fantasy than you being able to shut the fuck up long enough to read, digest and understand what everyone is telling you in the last 3 or 4 threads you've started. Maybe consider being part of the learning curve. As hard as it is to imagine, your argumentative arrogance is only preceded by your ignorance.

9245 · Sep 1, 2024

MDof2 said:
no more a fantasy than you being able to shut the fuck up long enough to read, digest and understand what everyone is telling you in the last 3 or 4 threads you've started. Maybe consider being part of the learning curve. As hard as it is to imagine, your argumentative arrogance is only preceded by your ignorance.

In what way have I been argumentative or arrogant? Please, give a specific example. The only disagreement I have had is with the snarky responses and the people insisting that I have to buy expensive match grade stuff and that nothing else will do vs. actually listening and understanding that I am on a budget and trying to work within that budget. There have been a few posts that were actually constructive, and a couple that even provided me links to sale items that would work for me. Those were appreciated and pointed out. In fact, one of them (indirectly) created a sale, and only indirectly because minutes before buying I checked gun broker for the same item used and got lucky, got it for $60 cheaper.

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