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lets see your foundation stock
- Thread starter Btmann45
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Probably because MDT's has a mag latch that is adjustable for height. Helps fine tune AW magazine feeding.
aah so running aw in a 2 lug, gotcha. I saved money and got a cdg to run with aw mags.
I got the Hawkins (AW latch) with my Centurion for a LP Fuzion barreled action I have on order. If there are feeding difficulties when it finally arrives, I'll be switching to the MDT bottom metal. It's nice to know there's a fix, even if I wish I had known about it before I got the Hawkins.
did you want the ability to run both? my understanding that when I ordered my Samson it would come with the appropriate latch to work with only AIAW mags unless I change it. but I definitely might not understand the situation fully.
I have no desire to run aics on a cdg personally.
Did you order the Samson with a Hawkins bottom metal they are providing you?
If so, it will come setup to run AICS mags.
The advantage of the MDT bottom metal is you can adjust magazine height. Whether this is using the variety of AICS mags, AW mags, or Rimx/Vudoo mags... The height adjustability does t exist on other bottom metals without more effort.
I ordered mine cut for Hawkins M5, but didn’t purchase Hawkins M5 DBM with it. If that purchase price includes DBM I’d dance on the roof.
As @NiteQwill stated, by default it comes set to run with AICS and you need to purchase the short latch if it’s ever in stock. I sourced one years ago and it was a pain. I’ve never been able to find the Hawkins in stock configured with AW latch. The mag latch is one of my favorite features of the ACC Elite so I’ll buy MDT’s overpriced DBM to get it.
no that was with brass and dark distressed.
eta I just checked everything, they were fairly clear I need to purchase the bottom metal separate. thanks for the heads up!
well this sucks but I really appreciate you informing me and everyone else.
tbh I'm now looking at the exact same product you just mentioned lol. shit we may have practically identical guns in the end lol.
Well, I pulled this one out of the safe and dusted it off in preparation of its soon to be here CRB 1/9 twist barrel chambered in 308.... thought I would test out some new 177 SMKs while I wait for the new barrel. Guess this old barrel likes them... used the junction of lines at the top of the red circle as an aiming point... this one might get some more use down the road.
My first Foundation. Wasn't sure about the Centurion grip at first (felt too close to the trigger), but it has grown on me! Getting a Samson w/ Genesis 2 grip tomorrow as well!
LOP should be the same (unless you ask Foundation to go shorter).
The grip angle is significantly different since it's vertical vs angled.
I would defer to @Sheldon N as I know he has both.
Samson Centurion in Black... I'm in love! Its an Impact inlet, but works fine with my Zeus, just had to slightly open up the front corners of the recoil lug pocket.
My new CRB 308 barrel is done... and set in my Black MG2. Feels identical to my 25x47L except the scope, same reticle though. One is a TT this one is a PMII
It is a F3R mount.. I am giving it a try, and it is a awful nice mount.
The current “family.” L-R: Samson/Centurion black, Samson/Genesis 2 dark distressed, Centurion dark.
Main match rifle is the left, with 223 trainer on the right. Center is the current project and is about to become a 25x47.
I’d also like to say the MDT Precision Bottom Metal is awesome. It’s not the prettiest, but it dropped right in and the adjustable mag latch was essential in fine tuning the 223 mags.
Main match rifle is the left, with 223 trainer on the right. Center is the current project and is about to become a 25x47.
I’d also like to say the MDT Precision Bottom Metal is awesome. It’s not the prettiest, but it dropped right in and the adjustable mag latch was essential in fine tuning the 223 mags.
Can the cheekrest of the Samson/Centurion move laterally? As in, right/left if one is on the gun?
About a half inch total travel (all the way from one side to the other) in the two slots which are individually adjusted so you can cant the cheek rest axial to the bore line.Oooh ooooh!
Approx how much distance off center?
Axially as in like this?
So, just so I understand, if the cheek rest is centered up from the factory, one could move it about 1/4” right?
Just like the pictured cheek rest. That’s my napkin math.
Thx bud!
Although I’m almost sorry to have read about the cheek rest’s lateral ability…lol
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