I never spoke with anyone, just saw this and know/trust that John-Kyle & Co means it:
lets see your foundation stock
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I never spoke with anyone, just saw this and know/trust that John-Kyle & Co means it:
It’s funny you say that, I’d been on the hunt for a Centurion in the PX for a while, when I showed up for my to coat. I liked it, but was like… eeeeh yeah I don’t need to buy one of these. Maybe the Sampson is a different animal.
Either 11 and change or 12 and change. I forget which. Total now is about 23 and change. No may or bi pod.
"No may"..?
Dude in this vid says just shy of 27lbs with all the weights (1:30-ish):
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No mag.
Spell check.
Maybe his weights are heavier.))
That's a pretty big difference... 23 vs shy of 27, huh?
If you don't mind: what contour barrel/scope/mount are you running?
Comp contour, Kahles, MPA.
My 23 is like 23# 11oz. Which is heavier by 2#+ than my Centurian.
Hopefully this means mine is coming up soon. I ordered the brass and aluminum kit together.
Kinda hard to find that info, right? Doesn’t seem to be on most individual product pages. I found this:
Foundation Stocks ship standard with a 13.5” LOP on all models with the exception of the Revelation, which ships standard at 13”. They can be adjusted by the addition or subtraction of spacer from 13” LOP to 16.5” LOP. If long is necessary please give us a call.
Foundation Facts | Foundation Stocks
FActs Foundation Facts Sheet Questions? Contact Us Specifics Finishes We currently offer 4 finish options. Finishes from top to bottom are: Coyote, Dark Dis ...
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I hope the new Samson is included in that.
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Good question I was wondering the same thing I just emailed foundation to find out will report back unless someone wants to measure theirs.Kinda hard to find that info, right? Doesn’t seem to be on their individual product pages. I found this:
Foundation Stocks ship standard with a 13.5” LOP on all models with the exception of the Revelation, which ships standard at 13”. They can be adjusted by the addition or subtraction of spacer from 13” LOP to 16.5” LOP. If long is necessary please give us a call.Foundation Facts | Foundation Stocks
FActs Foundation Facts Sheet Questions? Contact Us Specifics Finishes We currently offer 4 finish options. Finishes from top to bottom are: Coyote, Dark Dis ...
I hope the new Samson is included in that.
I remember JK telling me in person back in January but now I can't remember. Hopefully someone finds out. Or someone can just call and ask.
Just for reference, I ordered mine right after returning home from Leupold Steel Classic. And was told mid-June. I'm sure options, color, etc may influence that.
I'm going to reach out and order mine with the minimum 13" LOP (13.5 with a spacer), and skip the ARP (I'll never adjust/use it and don't want/need the unnecessary complication). People who cant their buttpads are weirdos.
And, see about ordering the aluminum weight kit too like @NiteQwill (and ask if aluminum pieces might be available a la carte)?
And, see about ordering the aluminum weight kit too like @NiteQwill (and ask if aluminum pieces might be available a la carte)?
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It does sort of seem like an oversight for a PRS-specific stock with things trending towards being squared-up. I'm 6'2" and after running 13.5" for years, recently discovered 13" works better off the bag and for any type of modified-prone for me. If I was any smaller, 13" might be pushing it.
Maybe they'll come up with something after they get enough requests?
Im 5' 8" and I run my ACC Elite at 12", full collapsed. I really hope they do come up with something.
They can custom you a shorter LOP if you ask nicely
Only down to 13 on the Samson. Still too long.
Did you call and ask? I had them cut down both my centurions. I’m sitting right at 12 3/4” with 1/4” spacers.
See the picture of the email another member posted above. I need 12" to 12.5" ideally to be truly square behind the rifle.
I'll just stick with my ACC Elite. It is what it is.
Did you do the cross etching on the fore arm and grip area…or did Foundation?
Thanks
Foundation. That’s a feature unique to the Samson vs their other models.
FWIW, I heard back from John-Kyle, and with the Samson you can order a 13” minimum LOP and still have the adjustable recoil pad (this is what I went with, because while canted buttpads are for weirdos, I would like to be able to raise mine a bit like I’m used to with my TCS).
Sounds like they can go shorter on the LOP (not sure how much shorter exactly) if one can live with the standard/basic legacy recoil pad…
Sounds like they can go shorter on the LOP (not sure how much shorter exactly) if one can live with the standard/basic legacy recoil pad…
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I ordered my Centurion with adjustable buttpad this way. The adjustable buttpad adds 0.5" to the minimum LOP they can cut a stock to and that LOP is 12.5", so if you want an adjustable buttpad it's 13" minimum as far as I can tell. That's what I got for my Centurion and I imagine the Samson would be the same.
Samson on the way... Porn Blessed pictures will be up soon. 
I measure it around 1.7" from the forward face of the hand grip (vertical plane) to the inside curve of a TT Diamond pro curve trigger.
It's a very nice stock, and comes with all sorts of Blessings, unfortunately, none of that helped my game this past weekend at PIGG River.
Beautiful place, great people and venue.
Great (Challenging) COF, tiny targets, wind, short times (70 secs on one), lots of moving, single shot, multiple targets.
And an old body does not add up to low(er) scores.
Loved the stock though, might need me some more church----.
PS: The "Targets" you see are actually the signs with stage markings, the targets are to the left. 500-742 yards.
Beautiful place, great people and venue.
Great (Challenging) COF, tiny targets, wind, short times (70 secs on one), lots of moving, single shot, multiple targets.
And an old body does not add up to low(er) scores.
Loved the stock though, might need me some more church----.
PS: The "Targets" you see are actually the signs with stage markings, the targets are to the left. 500-742 yards.
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I'm not a huge fan of the blinged-out look either and am already planning on having most/all of the brass on mine cerakoted if I decide I can't stand it.
One of my pistols wears brass grips that were cerakoted, so I know it can be done:
Yes, you can. I've had past brass firearm pieces cerakoted. You can also blue them, as well.
Thanks guys I figured you could but wanted to ask first.
This, I did not know... thanks!
After a quick search, I'm intrigued by the look, blued brass looks killer... any downsides?
It wears just like any bluing so if you're into pristine aesthetics... May need to do it again
I with you it does look pretty good might try some weights I have for my centurion to practice on.
