I am in the market for a generator. What size of generator will I need to power multiple house hold appliances (Fridge, oven, stove, lights etc.) What brand is reputable.
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How big of a fuel tank for that bad boy?Go big or go home… pouring the foundation for this genset on Monday. Full size CAT turbo diesel with 240v single phase wiring.
It will power the Schloss and all the workshops with no issues!!!
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I looked into the Kohler and similar and those are ok for single home use. But to do an entire farm, machine shop, outbuildings… when I already have diesel stores on site…. No brainer.
Also it predates computers. Is all analog. Going with manual transfer switch. It’s going to work when I want it to.
Propane and automation are fine. Until some diode on a chip goes tits-up. And then The generator is a lawn ornament. I don’t trust computerized generators any more than I trust my computerized car to be reliable.
Sirhr
PS. Foundation ready to pour. My rebar and mesh work may be third world… but it will be a brick s&@thhouse when it sets up!!! Still no bow kills or current bench press numbers, though.
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How big of a fuel tank for that bad boy?
How much did it cost?Go big or go home… pouring the foundation for this genset on Monday. Full size CAT turbo diesel with 240v single phase wiring.
It will power the Schloss and all the workshops with no issues!!!
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I looked into the Kohler and similar and those are ok for single home use. But to do an entire farm, machine shop, outbuildings… when I already have diesel stores on site…. No brainer.
Also it predates computers. Is all analog. Going with manual transfer switch. It’s going to work when I want it to.
Propane and automation are fine. Until some diode on a chip goes tits-up. And then The generator is a lawn ornament. I don’t trust computerized generators any more than I trust my computerized car to be reliable.
Sirhr
PS. Foundation ready to pour. My rebar and mesh work may be third world… but it will be a brick s&@thhouse when it sets up!!! Still no bow kills or current bench press numbers, though.
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Why are you using house wrap for the 'crete ?Go big or go home… pouring the foundation for this genset on Monday. Full size CAT turbo diesel with 240v single phase wiring.
It will power the Schloss and all the workshops with no issues!!!
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I looked into the Kohler and similar and those are ok for single home use. But to do an entire farm, machine shop, outbuildings… when I already have diesel stores on site…. No brainer.
Also it predates computers. Is all analog. Going with manual transfer switch. It’s going to work when I want it to.
Propane and automation are fine. Until some diode on a chip goes tits-up. And then The generator is a lawn ornament. I don’t trust computerized generators any more than I trust my computerized car to be reliable.
Sirhr
PS. Foundation ready to pour. My rebar and mesh work may be third world… but it will be a brick s&@thhouse when it sets up!!! Still no bow kills or current bench press numbers, though.
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Tell us more about these "vibrating redheads"...Why are you using house wrap for the 'crete ?
You know that will cause the 'crete to hold in moisture and you'll have mold/mildew issues, right ?
I'd suggest 2-3 inches of either gravel or sand under the 'crete and nothing else sceptin the fore mentioned rebar/mesh.
You'll probably want it thicker then the 3 inches max it looks like you're formed up for, I would go minimum 4 inches and pref 5-6 if you're going to have a genset mounted with redheads vibrating for however many years.
Make sure to have some heavy ass duty rubber or urethane pads under the genset, they make em just for that.
How much did it cost?
Why are you using house wrap for the 'crete ?
You know that will cause the 'crete to hold in moisture and you'll have mold/mildew issues, right ?
I'd suggest 2-3 inches of either gravel or sand under the 'crete and nothing else sceptin the fore mentioned rebar/mesh.
You'll probably want it thicker then the 3 inches max it looks like you're formed up for, I would go minimum 4 inches and pref 5-6 if you're going to have a genset mounted with redheads vibrating for however many years.
Make sure to have some heavy ass duty rubber or urethane pads under the genset, they make em just for that.
Yamaha ef6300ise here with a 30amp plug wired to the panel. If I load share with the breakers, it will run everything in the house but hvac. Very quite and great on fuel.
If I were going whole house, it would be a diesel.
Drop a shed over it with some ducting and it’ll be protected from varmits, sun, weather and be quiet too.I got a steal on it… $5k but took a risk on how much to recommission. And proved easy.
Also has only 4K hours. So is basically new.
Sirhr
Drop a shed over it with some ducting and it’ll be protected from varmits, sun, weather and be quiet too.
Bio Kleen Diesel Fuel Biocide Treatment
This dual-phased biocide kills microbes in fuel, including bacteria and fungus. Use this to rid your diesel fuel system of microbial contamination.powerservice.com
Had a truck get an algae bloom in the tank. Tried about 25 gallons of that to no avail. Hand cleaning with gasoline, along with the lines and getting injectors cleaned was the only thing that finally stopped it.
All the additives were a temp fix for a week or two. Hundreds of $ in plugged filters.
I swear the only guys that love diesels are those that don't own one or don't pay to fix them.
Yes, this is true. My tractor had that black slime in the tank and it would clog the pick-up screen in the tank. Even when used as a "shock treatment" it will not remove existing deposits. Had to manually clean out the tank/lines and THEN started using the bioclean. It will PREVENT the problem. It only takes a very small amount. Around here, this stuff is between 30 and 40 bucks for a 16 oz bottle. I'm figuring you used another one of their products if you went through 25 gallons.Had a truck get an algae bloom in the tank. Tried about 25 gallons of that to no avail. Hand cleaning with gasoline, along with the lines and getting injectors cleaned was the only thing that finally stopped it.
All the additives were a temp fix for a week or two. Hundreds of $ in plugged filters.
I swear the only guys that love diesels are those that don't own one or don't pay to fix them.
TREATMENT RATIOS (IN OUNCES) | ||||
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BIO KLEEN BIOCIDE DOSE | SHOCK TREATMENT | PPM IN FUEL (APPROX) | MAINTENANCE TREATMENT | PPM IN FUEL (APPROX) |
1 Ounce | 20 Gallons | 390 | 55 Gallons | 142 |
16 Ounces | 320 Gallons | 390 | 880 Gallons | 142 |
128 Ounces (1 Gallon) | 2,500 Gallons | 400 | 7,000 Gallons | 142 |
The trick is to use additives AND to cycle the diesel through the tanks. Not just leave it set. So my farm tanks feed my tractor, Hmmwv and other diesel stuff.… and get emptied and filled about every 30 months…. Typically I wait until diesel takes a price dip, then top up tanks…
Generator will be no exception. It will get run regularly but the big tank will have a transfer pump and hose and keep getting used And refilled.
And it SHTF somehow, it will also keep
My truck running as I won’t care about red dye in a road vehicle… in an emergency.
But agree… diesel doesn’t sit like propane!
Sirhr
Yes, this is true. My tractor had that black slime in the tank and it would clog the pick-up screen in the tank. Even when used as a "shock treatment" it will not remove existing deposits. Had to manually clean out the tank/lines and THEN started using the bioclean. It will PREVENT the problem. It only takes a very small amount. Around here, this stuff is between 30 and 40 bucks for a 16 oz bottle. I'm figuring you used another one of their products if you went through 25 gallons.
Info from their website:
FOR USE IN HYDROCARBON PRESERVATIONTo control the growth of problem microorganisms associated with the fuel.
In General Use: Add Bio Kleen to storage tanks or fuel tanks for control of microbial growth in diesel oil, fuel oil, gasoline or kerosene. Treatment may be performed by slug dosage or by intermittent metering to maintain a concentration of 135-1,000 ppm of Bio Kleen.
I’ve been around small and large diesels for years, never had an algae issue. All my tanks are treated with grey bottle power services and rotated.Until you get algae in the diesel tank...
The bigger units I've worked on had fuel contracts to refresh the diesel every 6-12 months and have fuel on standby.
Propane is great, because the fuel never goes bad. Diesel is more BTUs per gallon, but it needs a strict schedule of being refreshed.
I have diesel and gas that I can run on my own house. The diesel is a pain in the ass.
How much diesel does it burn per hour?75 gallons built in and I’ll have an aux 300 gallons inside the shed.
Sirhr
I’ve been around small and large diesels for years, never had an algae issue. All my tanks are treated with grey bottle power services and rotated.
How much diesel does it burn per hour?
What are your plans for the cooling intake and exhaust air?The install continues… Home Depot idiots screwed up the shed kit so bad I just banged out my own stick-built framing on Saturday and erected the walls Sunday morning. %*€¥ Home Depot.
I’ll do roof trusses and get them up this weekend maybe even roof and some wall sheathing.
Trying to get it all connected before winter! If not… in the spring!
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PS. Other than help carrying the walls from my garage to the slab… this was working alone… and started wtlh trip to lumber yard at 0700 Saturday. After telling Home Depot cancel my order and refund my (damaged) shed kit Friday at 4. Old guys get stuff done!!!
What kind of batteries are you talking? Inverters?Generators are inefficient with fuel unless your loads constantly consume all the energy from the fuel being burned.
Better to have 48V battery storage to capture all the energy from the fuel being burned by a generator. Then inverters to convert that DC power back into AC that your house can use on demand. There are some losses converting DC to AC, AC to DC, then back from DC to AC again. But nothing near what is wasted keeping a generator running 24/7.
For 1-3 days running a generator is workable. But for extended outages you might get tired of filling the tank (if you even can) to then have a large portion of that energy potential be wasted.
No doors? Windows? Ventilation?The install continues… Home Depot idiots screwed up the shed kit so bad I just banged out my own stick-built framing on Saturday and erected the walls Sunday morning. %*€¥ Home Depot.
I’ll do roof trusses and get them up this weekend maybe even roof and some wall sheathing.
Trying to get it all connected before winter! If not… in the spring!
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PS. Other than help carrying the walls from my garage to the slab… this was working alone… and started wtlh trip to lumber yard at 0700 Saturday. After telling Home Depot cancel my order and refund my (damaged) shed kit Friday at 4. Old guys get stuff done!!!
This is the way I am rigged up using 100% solar power.Generators are inefficient with fuel unless your loads constantly consume all the energy from the fuel being burned.
Better to have 48V battery storage to capture all the energy from the fuel being burned by a generator. Then inverters to convert that DC power back into AC that your house can use on demand. There are some losses converting DC to AC, AC to DC, then back from DC to AC again. But nothing near what is wasted keeping a generator running 24/7.
For 1-3 days running a generator is workable. But for extended outages you might get tired of filling the tank (if you even can) to then have a large portion of that energy potential be wasted.