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In the old days, it was felt that the best way to clean out the built up carbon in a vehicles engine’s cylinders was to take it from to 90 as fast as it would go.So put your used ear plugs in your barrels bore and soak over night...with whatever you find around the house and /or garage marked as a solvent cleaner, or acid...maybe a mix of all that stuff...plug the bore with used ear plug and pour in your favorite chemicals...I heard, heavy concentrated acids may take a little less time...but that could just be a rumor.
So put your used ear plugs in your barrels bore and soak over night...with whatever you find around the house and /or garage marked as a solvent cleaner, or acid...maybe a mix of all that stuff...plug the bore with used ear plug and pour in your favorite chemicals...I heard, heavy concentrated acids may take a little less time...but that could just be a rumor.
Excellent post.
Anything different for a rimfire ? Some people are saying the lube/wax on 22lr match ammo is a protection from rust. Any truth? Many barrels only see BT carbon remover and sometimes no cleaning for a while and I'm wondering if a bit of oil down the bore is necessary for storage.
Hmmmm?@Frank Green
Would Lucasoil CLP be an effective replacement for Hoppes? Reason I ask is I have a .375 CT barrel that shoots really well when it’s really dirty. I started putting Hoppes in the barrel after each range session and patching it out prior to shooting. When I push the patches out I noticed a good amount of copper fouling being removed and when I shot the rifle my 6 fps ES went to the 20s and groups went from 1/2 MOA to barely 1 MOA. It would then take 20 or so rounds for me to get back in the 2888 velocity node the gun likes. So would the CLP (which shouldn’t remove copper) be able to protect the bore as well as the Hoppes?
On every gun except the .375 the Hoppes TTP works great BTW.
@Frank Green
Would Lucasoil CLP be an effective replacement for Hoppes? Reason I ask is I have a .375 CT barrel that shoots really well when it’s really dirty. I started putting Hoppes in the barrel after each range session and patching it out prior to shooting. When I push the patches out I noticed a good amount of copper fouling being removed and when I shot the rifle my 6 fps ES went to the 20s and groups went from 1/2 MOA to barely 1 MOA. It would then take 20 or so rounds for me to get back in the 2888 velocity node the gun likes. So would the CLP (which shouldn’t remove copper) be able to protect the bore as well as the Hoppes?
On every gun except the .375 the Hoppes TTP works great BTW.
Frank thank you and will do.Hmmmm?
I've used the Lucas as a preservative but not for a cleaner in any way. So I can't give you a definite answer one way or another.
I get what your saying that the barrel likes to be dirty for consistency and I'm following what your doing but I have to throw a but in here....
Depending on how much and or how fast the copper fouling builds up... after x amount of time if the copper fouling is heavy/keeps building up... I think at some point in time you will have accuracy issues that way also. Once you have that accuracy problem due to the copper and carbon build up... your really going to have to work at it to get the bore back to any consistency again. Just keep that in mind.
Pay attention to the gun... it'll tell you what it needs cleaning wise etc... you just have to learn how to read it. Sounds like your doing that at least to some extent already.
I’d say yes. Haven’t seen anything to say it wouldn’t work good.Frank thank you and will do.
Is the Lucas oil good as a preservative for the bore?
It is.I’ve wondered if “ letting the rifle tell you when to clean it “ and shooting a resulting however many rounds without cleaning is a prescription for the dreaded carbon ring and copper fouling to an extent that becomes a negative. Would it not be better to have a regular cleaning routine to preclude carbon and copper build up? It would seem to me that a fouling shot or two would be a small price to pay.
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Superior for rust prevention and does a little bit of cleaning/carbon remover.
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It is. Ask me how I know! I will also say that I’ve never gotten copper with Hoppes!I’ve wondered if “ letting the rifle tell you when to clean it “ and shooting a resulting however many rounds without cleaning is a prescription for the dreaded carbon ring and copper fouling to an extent that becomes a negative. Would it not be better to have a regular cleaning routine to preclude carbon and copper build up? It would seem to me that a fouling shot or two would be a small price to pay.
I don’t get two fouling shots, more like 20I’ve wondered if “ letting the rifle tell you when to clean it “ and shooting a resulting however many rounds without cleaning is a prescription for the dreaded carbon ring and copper fouling to an extent that becomes a negative. Would it not be better to have a regular cleaning routine to preclude carbon and copper build up? It would seem to me that a fouling shot or two would be a small price to pay.
I don’t get two fouling shots, more like 20
Interesting. I clean after each range session and the next session might require 2-4 shots to “settle in”. Of course, different barrels react differently.I don’t get two fouling shots, more like 20
...and you have a Bartlein barrel?I don’t get two fouling shots, more like 20
I've been using the Clenzoil after cleaning, like it! What I noticed especially with the V22 is that I don't see and CCB shift, velocity is even consistent with the rounds....and you have a Bartlein barrel?
I've got alot of rifles, and the only cleaning I really do is to use C4 carbon remover, then a few patches of boretech copper remover, and then I put Clenzoil down the bore and return the rifle to storage.
1-2 fouling shots, and away I go.
Never end us with a Bartlein or Proof BBL that gets overly crudded with copper, or starts losing accuracy. That said, more of the powders I'm using have anti-fouling additives...
So what is your connection to Dupont? My dad worked for them for 35 years.Interesting. I clean after each range session and the next session might require 2-4 shots to “settle in”. Of course, different barrels react differently.
I don’t care to use abrasives so I try to practice “better living through chemistry.”
Almost exactly my cleaning regimen. One thing I’ve noticed with C 4 is that at times it will come out of the barrel with a blue tinge. I’ve assumed that’s due to it picking up some copper. When that happens I usually run some KG 12 copper solvent , ending up with Clenzoil followed by a dry patch....and you have a Bartlein barrel?
I've got alot of rifles, and the only cleaning I really do is to use C4 carbon remover, then a few patches of boretech copper remover, and then I put Clenzoil down the bore and return the rifle to storage.
1-2 fouling shots, and away I go.
Never end us with a Bartlein or Proof BBL that gets overly crudded with copper, or starts losing accuracy. That said, more of the powders I'm using have anti-fouling additives...
LOL! None at all.So what is your connection to Dupont? My dad worked for them for 35 years.
This isn’t a Bartlein barrel....and you have a Bartlein barrel?
I've got alot of rifles, and the only cleaning I really do is to use C4 carbon remover, then a few patches of boretech copper remover, and then I put Clenzoil down the bore and return the rifle to storage.
1-2 fouling shots, and away I go.
Never end up with a Bartlein or Proof BBL that gets overly crudded with copper, or starts losing accuracy. That said, more of the powders I'm using have anti-fouling additives...
Yeah, it def picks up some copper. Both @GBMaryland and I use it to clean our suppressors and we pour it out into a small jar (in my case the always useful jelly jar! haha) to use again (yes, Dorothy...it will work a time or two) and it is def blue.Almost exactly my cleaning regimen. One thing I’ve noticed with C 4 is that at times it will come out of the barrel with a blue tinge. I’ve assumed that’s due to it picking up some copper. When that happens I usually run some KG 12 copper solvent , ending up with Clenzoil followed by a dry patch.