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PV can keep them at that price!
Demand was too high last time and they sold too fast, better bump that price up! You guys shouldn't have let the cat out of the bag!
Powder Valley was feeling bold when they priced those.
Ya sign me up for hornady 2nds priced 20% higher than Berger’s
They crazy. Likely will sell very few here at this price. Which is what the greedy fucks deserve.
I see they have shown back up at powder valley. They sure aren’t priced like seconds though. Might as well just call them a-tips and publish specs at this price.
Factory Seconds Bullets 0.243 (243 Caliber, 6mm) 106 Grain Metal Tipped Box of 100
Product image is a generic representation of a similar bulletwww.powdervalley.com
No idea.Did anyone get them at that price, or was that change after they were all sold out?
Real question, because I saw a private seller listing offering 110s or 106s seconds (I forget which) at like 46 cents per, at which point I probably wouldn't pay that to shoot seconds. I find it interesting to watch where the market price will stabilize on these, and if they will ever be released as an actual (non-second) SKU.
Same here.No idea.
I saw the high price, and then I saw them sold out with a marked down super low price.
Did you ever load any of that 2500 yet?I'm in for 2500.
I hope they're the ones I think they are (same as the ones from PV)... or else I just bought my break-in bullets for my next ~12 6mm barrels!
Not answering for CK1.0, but I’ve been shooting them in my latest Dasher barrel. Running them at just about 2900 under 31.5gr of N140. They shoot pretty good. I’m happy I grabbed a bunch.Did you ever load any of that 2500 yet?
Did you ever load any of that 2500 yet?
I've shot 800 of them at his point and I still can not figure out why they're called "seconds" or how they are any different from any other A-Tips I've shot (besides them coming in a boring brown box).
So far they've been very consistent and impressive at the speeds I've tried them (~2800-2900fps).
I know some units shoot the mk262 77gr smk and others that shoot a 70gr tsx and a 62gr all copper frange for CQB work.expanding bullets, a no-no according to the Hague convention.
It depends.I know some units shoot the mk262 77gr smk and others that shoot a 70gr tsx and a 62gr all copper frange for CQB work.
Evidently, these bullets are not considered to be "easily expandable" as the Hague reads.
If you continue reading, the US decided it was OK if there was a clear military necessity.It depends.
The Hague convention covers warfare with recognized nation states.
Terrorists are not protected under Hague.
do these still exist anywhere? the 106 TAP projectiles absolutely hammer in my 6arc i would like to try some of these as well.
You can't pull the BC out because it's not using a BC, it's a full drag curve.I tried to get the G7 BC for these so I can plug them into my kestrel because the 106 TAP BC is not the same. Anybody have the BC? for some reason I cannot pull the 106 DOD 6mm bullet data out of the hornady 4DOF app to see what the actual BC is.
That makes sense. My phone never works anywhere it does not have service so the apps just dont work and I'd rather use my kestrel so I would like to just get the G7 BC.You can't pull the BC out because it's not using a BC, it's a full drag curve.
others may not have this experience but I have updated the app and redownloaded it and it will not load the bullet profiles. The applied ballistics app does the same thing, luckily kestrels do not which is why I always bring it with me. Most places I shoot at are in the middle of nowhere far outside a populated area and sometimes google fi does not work well with certain company cell towers.I never considered that the 4DOF app would not work without cell service.
Turn airplane mode on and it works fine.I never considered that the 4DOF app would not work without cell service.
Try 285g7, it'll get you on plate with a good zero and decent es. Then tweak it at distance.I tried to get the G7 BC for these so I can plug them into my kestrel because the 106 TAP BC is not the same. Anybody have the BC? for some reason I cannot pull the 106 DOD 6mm bullet data out of the hornady 4DOF app to see what the actual BC is.
I never considered that the 4DOF app would not work without cell service.
Turn airplane mode on and it works fine.
Yeah somewhere in the ballpark of .290.
It works fine without cell service. For some reason, however, if you have weak service it loads slowly. Trying to connect to sync the app with updates likely. However, if you throw it into airplane mode it will start up immediately. A connection is not required for it to work.
Zero’d my rifle with 20 rounds and got velocity, plugged it into my kestrel and went straight to the 1000 yard line and got a first round impact On a 2/3 IPSC. Outstanding!Yeah somewhere in the ballpark of .290.
It works fine without cell service. For some reason, however, if you have weak service it loads slowly. Trying to connect to sync the app with updates likely. However, if you throw it into airplane mode it will start up immediately. A connection is not required for it to work.
Yea I wish I would have bought more my 6ARC gas gun loves them. I’d like to try them in a 6 creed or a 6 dasherFWIW/BOLO, I've now shot 1000 of the factory second 106gn .243 A-Tips with awesome results and with no signs of why they're "seconds", until today when I was loading 300 more (rounds 1001-1300), when I found one (1) with a f'ed up nose/tip in the first 100ct box, and then two (2) 135gn .264 bullets in the other boxes (1 in each 100ct box).
Not a big deal, but maybe it is something to be on the lookout for. Both 135gn .264 ones wouldn't make it into my seating die, so they were easy to discover, and I found the 1 with the messed up nose/tip when just looking over the whole batch and case gauging a few here and there as a final quality control step I do where I look for anything wonky (and admire my work lol) when I'm done with a batch.
I wonder how the one with the messed up nose would have shot.FWIW/BOLO, I've now shot 1000 of the factory second 106gn .243 A-Tips with awesome results and with no signs of why they're "seconds", until today when I was loading 300 more (rounds 1001-1300), when I found one (1) with a f'ed up nose/tip in the first 100ct box, and then two (2) 135gn .264 bullets in the other boxes (1 in each 100ct box).
Not a big deal, but maybe it is something to be on the lookout for. Both 135gn .264 ones wouldn't make it into my seating die, so they were easy to discover, and I found the 1 with the messed up nose/tip when just looking over the whole batch and case gauging a few here and there as a final quality control step I do where I look for anything wonky (and admire my work lol) when I'm done with a batch.
I wonder how the one with the messed up nose would have shot.
I wonder how the one with the messed up nose would have shot.
I had 2 123 gr eld-ms break tips while loading into the chamber of my 6.5 Grendel during a match. On the clock, if it fits it ships. Both hit a 2 moa plate from a solid prop at 4-500 yards. Not a real feat of accuracy, but good enough in the moment.I wonder how the one with the messed up nose would have shot.