Ok- so hear me out, I've got a theory about music appreciation.

LuckyDuck · Oct 26, 2024

Throughout grade school age, we learn about our parent's appreciation of their music. Getting towards High School, we start to rebel and pick our own music (likely different from that we grew up with up to that point). After graduation from High School though- there's a very limited window, I'd estimate 5-10 years max, to appreciate new music. After that- it's all crap.

Doesn't matter what 'generation' you fall into, you at least understand your parents music -> that fed into your choices in high school, and after graduation you had to work with at best 5-10 years of music appreciation on your own before the majority of us stopped understanding "pop culture".

Good lord- I should likely be high as a kite for saying that but I wouldn't even know where to begin to get whatever mind altering substances that are available even today.

But that's my theory and I'm sticking with it for now.

-LD

XikoPlavi · Oct 26, 2024

LuckyDuck said:
Throughout grade school age, we learn about our parent's appreciation of their music. Getting towards High School, we start to rebel and pick our own music (likely different from that we grew up with up to that point). After graduation from High School though- there's a very limited window, I'd estimate 5-10 years max, to appreciate new music. After that- it's all crap.

Doesn't matter what 'generation' you fall into, you at least understand your parents music -> that fed into your choices in high school, and after graduation you had to work with at best 5-10 years of music appreciation on your own before the majority of us stopped understanding "pop culture".

Good lord- I should likely be high as a kite for saying that but I wouldn't even know where to begin to get whatever mind altering substances that are available even today.

But that's my theory and I'm sticking with it for now.

-LD

Sort of, but I dont know if I agree in the long run. I am 54 and still continue to explore and be open to music I never paid attention to. Yes, I am talking about old music not new anymore BUT I still am into music.

Here’s one for you: has to be played on a good system but it’s perfect for halloween

time.

chevy_man · Oct 26, 2024

Best explanation I've ever heard: your appreciation for music is directly linked to when you started getting laid....

OkieMike · Oct 26, 2024

LuckyDuck said:
Throughout grade school age, we learn about our parent's appreciation of their music. Getting towards High School, we start to rebel and pick our own music (likely different from that we grew up with up to that point). After graduation from High School though- there's a very limited window, I'd estimate 5-10 years max, to appreciate new music. After that- it's all crap.

Doesn't matter what 'generation' you fall into, you at least understand your parents music -> that fed into your choices in high school, and after graduation you had to work with at best 5-10 years of music appreciation on your own before the majority of us stopped understanding "pop culture".

Good lord- I should likely be high as a kite for saying that but I wouldn't even know where to begin to get whatever mind altering substances that are available even today.

But that's my theory and I'm sticking with it for now.

-LD

That's a pretty fair summation. My dad listened to a decent "array" of "classic" rock... Which I mostly embraced... Then in high school I moved to punk/metal.

But roughly 10 years out of high school I quit listening to "new" stuff that came on the radio. And I reverted back to my punk/metal... And lately a lot more of the classic rock Dad listened to... If my German Shepherd could talk I would probably be embarrassed to hear him tell how many miles/hours I've spent in the truck with him... His head hanging out the window while I'm jamming the Doobie Brothers "Listen to the Music" on the stereo.

Every once in a while some new artist will release something that's pretty good. But most of it just doesn't work for me.

Mike

Govt Mule · Oct 27, 2024

I don't share the same experience as the OP. My parents listened to old school country (born in 1925 and 1930). The first music that really moved me was blues with Muddy Waters , Light'n Hopkins and similar in the early 60's. Than found similar British musicians like Peter Green, Jeff Beck and John Mayall playing a white mans version of more bluesy rock. Skynyrd, Allman Bros and ZZ top (first 3 albums) put an American twist on what I liked.
That is still the staple for me, but I enjoy some bands like Widespread Panic (new album coming out soon) and All Them Witches.
Despise: disco, rap, hair bands, punk, metal....

Cheers

papershredder · Oct 27, 2024

Studies have been done that found that most people only listen to simple catchy tunes or music that they're familiar with, and are generally not open to something different. What's new music? New bands, recently released material, or just anything you have never listened to before? I'm in my latter 40's and still seek out new (and old/new to me) music. Radio sucks unless you like listening to the same commercials and playlists over, and over, and over, again, and again, and again. Satellite radio is marginally better just because of more variety but still plagued by playlists and commercials. Aside from actually going to concerts and music fests; Youtube, Bandcamp and other streaming services are the best bet at finding new music.

Srgt. Hulka · Oct 27, 2024

Govt Mule said:
I don't share the same experience as the OP. My parents listened to old school country (born in 1925 and 1930). The first music that really moved me was blues with Muddy Waters , Light'n Hopkins and similar in the early 60's. Than found similar British musicians like Peter Green, Jeff Beck and John Mayall playing a white mans version of more bluesy rock. Skynyrd, Allman Bros and ZZ top (first 3 albums) put an American twist on what I liked.
That is still the staple for me, but I enjoy some bands like Widespread Panic (new album coming out soon) and All Them Witches.
Despise: disco, rap, hair bands, punk, metal....
Cheers

My nephew is lead singer and bass player for All Them Witches.

Govt Mule · Oct 27, 2024

I'd be interested in learning where the name for the band came from. I saw a recent interview, your nephew is sporting a hog ring in his nose that made me laugh (not judging; to each their own).

earthtrekker1775 · Oct 27, 2024

Srgt. Hulka said:
My nephew is lead singer and bass player for All Them Witches.

Very talented, I have been enjoying their music for a while.

theLBC · Oct 27, 2024

i don't spend as much time listening to the "radio" or watching music videos as i did when i was younger...and this was the primary avenue of exposure to "new music".
it is funny that most of what i consider "newer" is still 20+ years old.
this is "newer" to me, and it is 13 years old.

Ronws · Oct 27, 2024

William Rose said it best. "With your bitch-slap rapping and your cocaine tongue you get nothing done..."

My father and my step-grandfather both loved classical music. In fact, before transferring to UCLA, my father was a music major at University of South Dakota. Then his parents were moving back to Tyler, Texas and he went to California. No doubt, with an aching in his heart (thanks, Robert Plant.)

But they knew the young people liked the new music. So, one time, my father, when he had visitation with us, changed the station and it was Deep Purple playing "Hush."

My step-grandfather, who hated country music since he had to hear it all the time he was in the Army, did like some modern groups. Specifically, he liked Pink Floyd. Much of that music shares a lot with classical.

My first musical memory was being on a couch watching my mother clean the living room and the radio was playing "Wichita Lineman" by Glen Campbell. I think it imprinted me. That style stuck in my head.

In October of 1974, I was 10 years old. My mother and our first step-father, the boiler tech on the USS Ogden, were getting a divorce. We were moving to Texas because my grandmother wanted to move back to here. In one of the closets, they had an old Silvertone guitar that used nylon strings. And it only had 3 strings on there. My step-grandfather bought it, hoping to learn flamenco guitar but he lacked the drive and the patience to get calluses on the finger tips. So, I was laying on my back in the living room, holding the guitar and just feeling the positions. I started picking out a melody from something that had been in my ear. Then I realized what I was doing. Picking part of the arpeggio to "Who'll Stop the Rain?" by Creedence Clearwater Revival.

A few weeks later, we moved to Texas. My mother gave me an old folk guitar that my father had given her. Likewise, she never took to it. All she could afford for me was a new set of strings and Mel Bay's Book of Chords. I am a leftie but this was for right-handed playing. Which did not bother me. Standard playing feels like a left-handed activity to me, anyway.

My step-grandfather knew how to read sheet music and taught me. He was a radio comm tech but he also sang in church choir. One church was doing "Fiddler on the Roof" and he was doing the basso-baritone part of "Sunrise, Sunset."

I was and still am a tenor. My voice never cracked. In fact, when I was 14, I answered the phone at home and the guy on the other end answered a question with "yes ma'am." We both had a laugh.

Over time, I would build skill and learn new songs. Along 1977 came "Dust in the Wind," by Kansas. Back then, we call Music by Kansas fusion, since it was a fusion of rock and classical and a smidgeon of jazz. In fact, founder Kerry Livgren spoke of being raised on classical music and then getting bit by the Beatles.

I thought it was one player, so I learned to play that song on one guitar. Then I saw them at Reunion Arena (no longer there) in Dallas in 1982 and found it was a duet between Kerry Livgren and Rich Williams. This was not long after Steve Walsh left the band and was replaced by singer John Elefante to finish the album "Vinyl Confessions" and go on tour.

I listened to a lot of music and it was not so segregated. Certainly not like Sirius with specific channels for specific sub-genres.

I liked the early music like Tone Loc ("Wild Thing" and "Funky Cold Medina.") A lot of the rest of rap did not interest me. Never got into Limp Bizkit. Never really got into grunge. In fact, one time, I was listening to a grunge song and I surmised if you sharpened the guitar tone and convinced the singer to NOT sound like he was gargling with gravel, you would have a melodic song that might be done by Queensryche. So, it was all style, plaid, and Doc Martens.

I also felt that many is the band labeled as grunge when they were actually closer to 70s rock. Listen to "Loud Love" by Soundgarden and that is more like Led Zeppelin.

Led Zeppelin was my favorite band and Robert Plant my favorite singer. I had a song book (standard musical notation) of their first 5 albums I through V (Houses of the Holy.)

Yes, I learned "Stairway to Heaven." When I was a lad and played guitar, the one request from the lovely young ladies was that song. I learned the solo, note for note. Which might be needless exercise. Jimmy Page never plays that solo the same way twice. What you hear on the album is what he felt like playing that day.

To this day, I can still sing everything in the original key as recorded.

So, I guess you might say that I also progressed my music appreciation from what my parents liked.

I still like some pop music today.

Still not much into rap.

Still like some country.

So, what is a high pitched singer playing guitar doing in a sharpshooter forum?

I have a nasty habit of trying to learn a bunch of different stuff. And I do learn things here.

Atomic_Lobster · Oct 27, 2024

In 6 and 7th grade I had some penguins instill songs from Tina Turner, Carly Simone and CCR
Love me old time Rock and Roll
And some of the newer rock

Pharmseller · Oct 27, 2024

Rush, bitches.

Everything else is crap.

There, I said it.

P

Atomic_Lobster · Oct 27, 2024

DEVO
Uncontrollable urge

10ring'r · Oct 27, 2024

Back when I was a wee child, my parents listened to Buddy Holly, a little bit of Elvis, but mostly Hank Williams, Hee-Haw stuff. Of course, I followed suit. Early 60's (??), I watched the Ed Sullivan show, with my parents, when the Fabulous Four was on it. I got hooked on the type of music they sang/played. Fast forward to late 60's, dad still listened to country and I had no choice, didn't even have a transistor radio for myself, so I was stuck with whatever dad had on. Now the 70's came along, had my own radio/stereo and started to listen to CCR, Black Sabbath, Jefferson Airplane, and others. One day I was with a couple of my H.S. hotrodders/Heads, and one of them played an 8-Track tape of a guy named Ted Nugent. When I heard that guy rip "Cat Scratch Fever" and "Free For all", I was hooked on hard rock,
That dude can make an electric guitar wail. Now back to the original question. Music made sense back in the day, now, not so much.
Rhythm sucks, and vocals suck. I still enjoy country, but it's starting to sound like Rap.
There's not a concert that's out there that I would waste time and money to go see.
I still listen to country the majority of the time, but...
I guess I've just hit the pinnacle of life. It's been fun, but nothing makes me go...I've got to see him/her/them. Mac

Ronws · Oct 27, 2024

10ring'r said:
Back when I was wee child, my parents listened to Buddy Holly, a little bit of Elvis, but mostly Hank Williams, Hee-Haw stuff. Of course, I followed suit. Early 60's (??), I watched the Ed Sullivan show, with my parents, when the Fabulous Four was on it. I got hooked on the type of music they sang/played. Fast forward to late 60's, dad still listened to country and I had no choice, didn't even have a transistor radio for myself, so I was stuck with whatever dad had on. Now the 70's came along, had my own radio/stereo and started to listen to CCR, Black Sabbath, Jefferson Airplane, and others. One day I was with a couple of my H.S. hotrodders/Heads, and one of them played an 8-Track tape of a guy named Ted Nugent. When I heard that guy rip "Cat Scratch Fever" and "Free For all", I was hooked on hard rock,
That dude can make an electric guitar wail. Now back to the original question. Music made sense back in the day, now, not so much.
Rhythm sucks, and vocals suck. I still enjoy country, but it's starting to sound like Rap.
There's not a concert that's out there that I would waste time and money to go see.
I still listen to country the majority of the time, but...
I guess I've just hit the pinnacle of life. It's been fun, but nothing makes me go...I've got to see him/her/them. Mac

Ted Nugent is such a favorite of mine.

Whenever I would get a new guitar amp or even an effects processor, the first thing I would is try to emulate the sound of his Gibson ES-335 Birdland and launch into some "Cat Scratch Fever."

And happily, he and I agree politically but primarily, I liked the music first.

I read his book, "God, Guns, and Rock and Roll." It is autographed. I got to meet him at a book signing and he signed my copy of that book and the cookbook he made with his wife, "Kill it and Grill it!"

DocRDS · Oct 27, 2024

You like what you like. Kinda like my scotch story: I asked some master how people taste all these flavors and appreciate all these expensive scotches. He said "You like what you like, you taste what you taste" I spent a long time in Music (through college as a break from math) and gained a lot of appreciation for different artists.

I love my metal music
I love classic rock
I love country music
I love movie soundtracks (Williams, Poldouris, Morricone)
I love Beethoven, Bach, Mozart
I love Wagner
I love Sousa marches
I can't stand Opera (ironic because I love Wagner who wrote operas)
I like musicals even though I can't stand opera.
Ballet is total shit
I can't even look at a modern art gallery, it makes no sense. But at least music I can say "That's cool"

Is it weird? Yup, who gives a shit...it makes me happy.

My 5k running tracklist was a WTF mix:
Def Lepard, Rolling Stones, Who, Fleetwood Mac (who I hate), Conan the Barbarian, Rocky Soundtrack, Van Halen, ACDC, Gregorian Chant. I remember in high school I wasn't cool cause I didn't like the Cure, or Depeche Mode or whatever the flavor of the day was. Who gives a shit. Put on Van Halen or Pink Floyd and Crank it to 11. Halloween? Crank that Organ Fugue by Bach up. Just play it LOUD!

(Unless its movement 2 of New World, then play it so slow it makes you want to die: LARGO MEANS SLOW BITCHES!)

You like what you like and all others can sod off.

OkieMike · Oct 27, 2024

Pharmseller said:
Rush, bitches.

Everything else is crap.

There, I said it.

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P

Working Man is one of the most badass songs ever.

Mike

Ric O'shay · Oct 27, 2024

I never stoped evolving with music....just need to keep an open mind and look past the mainstream. Same as it ever was.

DocRDS · Oct 27, 2024

My wife loves rush and I've never "Got it" Its Art. It speaks to different people differently.

I'll keep digging: I prefer Van "Hagar" over Van Halen. You don't?

GreenGO Juan · Oct 27, 2024

I find as I get older I like more and more different types of music, was close minded when young.

I don't put a year or genera restriction on it. You know what ever is jamming, and always try to feel what the artist was getting into at the time.

Been loving some King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard... They fucking jam.

10ring'r · Oct 27, 2024

Ronws said:
Ted Nugent is such a favorite of mine.

Whenever I would get a new guitar amp or even an effects processor, the first thing I would is try to emulate the sound of his Gibson ES-335 Birdland and launch into some "Cat Scratch Fever."

And happily, he and I agree politically but primarily, I liked the music first.

I read his book, "God, Guns, and Rock and Roll." It is autographed. I got to meet him at a book signing and he signed my copy of that book and the cookbook he made with his wife, "Kill it and Grill it!"

I always wanted to play guitar when I was a very young man, but I guess I got into motorcycle racing/dirt biking and it took over my life at that point in my life. Then went off to serve my country and that went on the shelf for a couple of years.
I'm jealous of your opportunity that you had of meeting Uncle Ted. He's only a couple of years older than me, and like you, we share the same political views, killin-it, and grillin-it mantra. I think him and I could have had a great chat.
Stick with that guitar. Very few people have the ability to write music, read it, manipulate the hands on frets, to make sounds that are pleasant to the ears.

Mac

Pharmseller · Oct 27, 2024

OkieMike said:
Working Man is one of the most badass songs ever.

Mike

One of my least favorites.

P

Pharmseller · Oct 27, 2024

DocRDS said:
My wife loves rush and I've never "Got it" Its Art. It speaks to different people differently.

Rush is like food.

Not everyone gets it.

P

Fx51LP308 · Oct 27, 2024

LuckyDuck said:
Throughout grade school age, we learn about our parent's appreciation of their music. Getting towards High School, we start to rebel and pick our own music (likely different from that we grew up with up to that point). After graduation from High School though- there's a very limited window, I'd estimate 5-10 years max, to appreciate new music. After that- it's all crap.

Doesn't matter what 'generation' you fall into, you at least understand your parents music -> that fed into your choices in high school, and after graduation you had to work with at best 5-10 years of music appreciation on your own before the majority of us stopped understanding "pop culture".

Good lord- I should likely be high as a kite for saying that but I wouldn't even know where to begin to get whatever mind altering substances that are available even today.

But that's my theory and I'm sticking with it for now.

-LD

Or, you start to re-apprecaite music from your past that you "bypassed." For example, I started out (believe it or not) listening to the classical records of my Aunt/Uncle (they were raising me at the time) but they were also into stuff like "Bossa Nova." They were one of the first in the neighborhood to get the "Getz/Gilberto" album from Verve (featuring Astrud Gilberto singing "Girl from Ipanema"). THe house was full of other jazz albums including the classic Dave Brubek's "Time Out." But they had all the classics there (Beethoven, mostly 5th & 9th). In fact, the very first Lincoln Center concert I ever went to in NYC was to (then) Philharmonic Hall (now Avery Fisher Hall) to see James DePriest conduct Beethoven's 5th live, plus one additional number I don't remember).

After that. my music changed significantly by my joining my Church Choir of men & boys. I was one of the first to be admitted from the 2nd grade (usually he would only accept boys as "Trebles" starting in the 3rd grade. So it was mostly Church music (sort of like classical) but it really was some sophisticated (and technically challenging) stuff for a treble boy to sing. And tempo was sped up for most of the pieces in order to prevent the service from dragging on with time.

After that, I'd listen to almost anything, with two significant exceptions. Jazz (especially big band Count Basie stuff) and classical were my go to's, (and still are) but I'd listen to almost anything. The two exceptions being, "Country/Western" and Heavy Metal Rock. Couldn't stand 'em, But even in my old age I'm actually starting to appreciate the technical talent it takes to do some of the Heavy Metal stuff. I'm definitely listening now to AC/DC and Metalica. And, I"ll always listen to Willie Nelson.

Pharmseller · Oct 27, 2024

I don’t appreciate jazz. To me, jazz lacks structure and I don’t understand that lack of structure. I like melodies that I can recognize and understand.
Big, flowing, complicated melodies.
That’s one of the reasons I like Rush so much.

P

earthtrekker1775 · Oct 28, 2024

GreenGO Juan said:
I find as I get older I like more and more different types of music, was close minded when young.

I don't put a year or genera restriction on it. You know what ever is jamming, and always try to feel what the artist was getting into at the time.

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Been loving some King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard... They fucking jam.

Gizzard, et al are genius. Loads of fun listening to them.

LuckyDuck · Oct 28, 2024

Absolutely a fantastic discussion- music is so personal, I just enjoyed other's sharing their own experiences. This has turned into a fun thread/discussion. Dollars to donuts though- the year one would have graduated from high school likely has a tremendous impact on their preferred style of music.

Was it unique to just my school or did others have a 'big' senior battle to chose their "class of XX" song in whatever local high school they attended? Didn't all of the local schools have the "cheerleader" fighting for someone to care?

It's been decades since I graduated High School but for some reason I still remember the class song debate that I "voted" for. If I remember right- I did a 'write in' for the Beatles - "In my life". My write-in didn't sway the approval board's choice but... for some weird reason I couldn't tell you what I had for breakfast last week or whatever ridiculous song that our graduating class 'chose' but I distinctly remember that part of my life for some odd reason.

-LD

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LuckyDuck · Oct 28, 2024

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Fx51LP308 · Oct 28, 2024

Pharmseller said:
I don’t appreciate jazz. To me, jazz lacks structure and I don’t understand that lack of structure. I like melodies that I can recognize and understand.
Big, flowing, complicated melodies.

P

Depends on your definition of "structure," as well as the kind of jazz to which you are listening. Yes, there are some works within Jazz that would seem to lack "classic, theoretical" structure (someday, I knew those "music theory" classes would pay off

) "Modern" and "Fusion" Jazz are like that. Even some "big band" classical Jazz (Duke Ellington Orchestra) can be a little "esoteric" at times. One has to work a little harder to appreciate them. OTOH, the "Count Basie Orchestra" usually plays good, solid rhythmic melodies (e.g. Basie's classic "April in Paris" which was featured in the movie "Blazing Saddles" when Bart was riding through the desert). Then again, I could also argue that "Classical" music is like that as well. Consider Bach vs. Beethoven. Bach being strictly "metronomish" in his approach to composing works vs. Beethoven, who wrote from his heart with pure emotion. It's why some people mistakenly associate Bach with being the "fuguemeister." All of Bach's fugues have this consistent "metronomish" like quality and order. But, to be a fugue, it only needs multiple voices and "counterpoint" (or, "contrapunctus" as they say). Here is the very definition of a composition about writing a fugue by Glenn Gould....

Believe it or not, there's actually a rather well known fugue written by a Jazz composer, George Gershwin. It's called "Fugue" and it's part of the "Porgy and Bess" suite.

GreenGO Juan · Oct 28, 2024

Pharmseller said:
I don’t appreciate jazz. To me, jazz lacks structure and I don’t understand that lack of structure. I like melodies that I can recognize and understand.
Big, flowing, complicated melodies.
That’s one of the reasons I like Rush so much.

P

Jazz can and generally gets into complicated time signatures, not easy to do or for some easy to listen to because they have a hard time finding the Rhythm. A lot of people are so used to 4/4 its hard for them to hear or play anything else.

What I love about Jazz is you generally have some fire ass musicians just going off.

The Rush of Jazz music... IMO

Fx51LP308 · Oct 28, 2024

GreenGO Juan said:
Jazz can and generally gets into complicated time signatures, not easy to do or for some easy to listen to because they have a hard time finding the Rhythm. A lot of people are so used to 4/4 its hard for them to hear or play anything else.

What I love about Jazz is you generally have some fire ass musicians just going off.

The Rush of Jazz music... IMO

It's all about the "runs."

EddieNFL · Oct 28, 2024

Govt Mule said:
I don't share the same experience as the OP. My parents listened to old school country (born in 1925 and 1930). The first music that really moved me was blues with Muddy Waters , Light'n Hopkins and similar in the early 60's. Than found similar British musicians like Peter Green, Jeff Beck and John Mayall playing a white mans version of more bluesy rock. Skynyrd, Allman Bros and ZZ top (first 3 albums) put an American twist on what I liked.
That is still the staple for me, but I enjoy some bands like Widespread Panic (new album coming out soon) and All Them Witches.
Despise: disco, rap, hair bands, punk, metal....
Cheers

I’m tracking. My mother did listen to some popular music as I was growing up. I remember her teaching me to do The Twist when I was five or six. My dad could not have careless about music. Mom let me listen to what I wanted, but when it got “racy” (her term), she would yell, “I can heard the words!”

I began to move away from new music at the height of disco.

. By the late 80s almost nothing new pleased my ear.

Pharmseller · Oct 28, 2024

When I hear jazz the word that comes to mind is “frenetic.”

Again, to be clear, I’m not criticizing. It’s just not my cup of frenzy.

P

theLBC · Oct 28, 2024

Pharmseller said:
When I hear jazz the word that comes to mind is “frenetic.”

Again, to be clear, I’m not criticizing. It’s just not my cup of frenzy.

P

some jazz does sound like a bunch of people tuning their instruments.

Ronws · Oct 28, 2024

10ring'r said:
I always wanted to play guitar when I was a very young man, but I guess I got into motorcycle racing/dirt biking and it took over my life at that point in my life. Then went off to serve my country and that went on the shelf for a couple of years.
I'm jealous of your opportunity that you had of meeting Uncle Ted. He's only a couple of years older than me, and like you, we share the same political views, killin-it, and grillin-it mantra. I think him and I could have had a great chat.
Stick with that guitar. Very few people have the ability to write music, read it, manipulate the hands on frets, to make sounds that are pleasant to the ears.

Mac

And still playing and doing new stuff to my list. After decades, I finally got the inclination to work up "Operator" by Jim Croce.

GreenGO Juan · Oct 28, 2024

Ronws said:
And still playing and doing new stuff to my list. After decades, I finally got the inclination to work up "Operator" by Jim Croce.

I used to play time in a bottle, but have forgot how... rarely ever touch my acoustic any more. Have more fun on the drums.

Pharmseller · Oct 28, 2024

GreenGO Juan said:
I used to play time in a bottle, but have forgot how... rarely ever touch my acoustic any more. Have more fun on the drums.

Again, Rush.

P

Ronws · Oct 28, 2024

GreenGO Juan said:
I used to play time in a bottle, but have forgot how... rarely ever touch my acoustic any more. Have more fun on the drums.

One of the entertainers that visits my wife's facility does "I've Got a Name."

GreenGO Juan · Oct 28, 2024

Ronws said:
One of the entertainers that visits my wife's facility does "I've Got a Name."

Thing about the Croce stuff is you need two guitarists. Maury Muehleisen was a big part of his sound and sadly didn't get much recognition for it.

Or in I Got a name, that Maury playing the verse and all the fill licks

Soulezoo · Oct 28, 2024

Govt Mule said:
I don't share the same experience as the OP. My parents listened to old school country (born in 1925 and 1930). The first music that really moved me was blues with Muddy Waters , Light'n Hopkins and similar in the early 60's. Than found similar British musicians like Peter Green, Jeff Beck and John Mayall playing a white mans version of more bluesy rock. Skynyrd, Allman Bros and ZZ top (first 3 albums) put an American twist on what I liked.
That is still the staple for me, but I enjoy some bands like Widespread Panic (new album coming out soon) and All Them Witches.
Despise: disco, rap, hair bands, punk, metal....
Cheers

Similar. My parents were born 1919 and 1925. So big band and old C/W for me. High School introduced me to what is now "classic rock" with KISS and Ted Nugent up first followed by Zep and The Who. My first concert was a Day on the Green in 1978. Headliners were Aerosmith and Pat Travers. Opening acts were these forgettable newcomers Van Halen and AC/DC. I'll tell you what. AC/DC was incredible and the energy they brought was unrivaled. Been a fan ever since.
Now to be fair, I did evolve and can appreciate classical and jazz to a degree. I like "newer country" (I'll define as 80's to mid 90's roughly). Don't really care for most of the new stuff.

On edit: I forgot about Foreigner. They were there. But is it not understandable that I would forget about them?

Fx51LP308 · Oct 28, 2024

Pharmseller said:
Rush is like food.

Not everyone gets it.

P

This Young girl, apparently, gets Rush! Meet 8 y/o (at the time of filming) Ellen Alleverdyan. She has her own YouTube channel "EllenPlaysBass". SHe does a whole bunch of bass playin' thanks to her father's help.

cas6969 · Oct 28, 2024

Pharmseller said:
Rush, bitches.

Rush is like torture and unfortunately I got it.

It was like what they do to POW's. I worked a job for eight months doing metal fab, where I worked next to a guy who listened to Rush all day long. The same tape, over and over eight hours a day. Luckily he was a college student and only worked 3 days a week, or I would have murdered him. I would borrow random music from people to listen to in my headphones, didn't care what it was, as long as I could listen to it loud enough to drown out the Rush.

Govt Mule · Oct 28, 2024

Soulezoo said:
Similar. My parents were born 1919 and 1925. So big band and old C/W for me. High School introduced me to what is now "classic rock" with KISS and Ted Nugent up first followed by Zep and The Who. My first concert was a Day on the Green in 1978. Headliners were Aerosmith and Pat Travers. Opening acts were these forgettable newcomers Van Halen and AC/DC. I'll tell you what. AC/DC was incredible and the energy they brought was unrivaled. Been a fan ever since.
Now to be fair, I did evolve and can appreciate classical and jazz to a degree. I like "newer country" (I'll define as 80's to mid 90's roughly). Don't really care for most of the new stuff.

On edit: I forgot about Foreigner. They were there. But is it not understandable that I would forget about them?

Being stationed at Pendelton 74-76' , you can imagine the bands that played between LA and San Diego. You could see a big time band between the two cities almost every weekend. Never saw AC/DC, but I enjoy the Bon Scott era of their music.
Cheers

XikoPlavi · Oct 28, 2024

Fx51LP308 said:
Or, you start to re-apprecaite music from your past that you "bypassed." For example, I started out (believe it or not) listening to the classical records of my Aunt/Uncle (they were raising me at the time) but they were also into stuff like "Bossa Nova." They were one of the first in the neighborhood to get the "Getz/Gilberto" album from Verve (featuring Astrud Gilberto singing "Girl from Ipanema"). THe house was full of other jazz albums including the classic Dave Brubek's "Time Out." But they had all the classics there (Beethoven, mostly 5th & 9th). In fact, the very first Lincoln Center concert I ever went to in NYC was to (then) Philharmonic Hall (now Avery Fisher Hall) to see James DePriest conduct Beethoven's 5th live, plus one additional number I don't remember).

After that. my music changed significantly by my joining my Church Choir of men & boys. I was one of the first to be admitted from the 2nd grade (usually he would only accept boys as "Trebles" starting in the 3rd grade. So it was mostly Church music (sort of like classical) but it really was some sophisticated (and technically challenging) stuff for a treble boy to sing. And tempo was sped up for most of the pieces in order to prevent the service from dragging on with time.

After that, I'd listen to almost anything, with two significant exceptions. Jazz (especially big band Count Basie stuff) and classical were my go to's, (and still are) but I'd listen to almost anything. The two exceptions being, "Country/Western" and Heavy Metal Rock. Couldn't stand 'em, But even in my old age I'm actually starting to appreciate the technical talent it takes to do some of the Heavy Metal stuff. I'm definitely listening now to AC/DC and Metalica. And, I"ll always listen to Willie Nelson.

Brubeks Timeout is still one of the best jazz recordings ever.

Pharmseller · Oct 28, 2024

cas6969 said:
Rush is like torture and unfortunately I got it.

It was like what they do to POW's. I worked a job for eight months doing metal fab, where I worked next to a guy who listened to Rush all day long. The same tape, over and over eight hours a day. Luckily he was a college student and only worked 3 days a week, or I would have murdered him. I would borrow random music from people to listen to in my headphones, didn't care what it was, as long as I could listen to it loud enough to drown out the Rush.

Communist.

Heathen. Unwashed, of course.

XikoPlavi · Oct 28, 2024

DocRDS · Oct 28, 2024

I used to think I liked Jazz. I realized what I really liked was Blues. But there are so many varieties of Jazz. Be-Bop and funk are well.....funky.

Maybe I'm a poser but there is a dude on youtube: Rick Beato who breaks down moden music and even connects it with music theory and classical music. Really shows the connections between Bach and modern Rock and Roll (that is not a typo).

Also reviews thing like why Comfortably Numb is like the best song ever. Maybe its jsut stuff I like being "justified" as good, but I'm always "Why do I like that" and he helped put some pieces in place.

Still no excuse for John Denver and the muppets.....(Which I love).

Ronws · Oct 28, 2024

DocRDS said:
I used to think I liked Jazz. I realized what I really liked was Blues. But there are so many varieties of Jazz. Be-Bop and funk are well.....funky.

Maybe I'm a poser but there is a dude on youtube: Rick Beato who breaks down moden music and even connects it with music theory and classical music. Really shows the connections between Bach and modern Rock and Roll (that is not a typo).

Also reviews thing like why Comfortably Numb is like the best song ever. Maybe its jsut stuff I like being "justified" as good, but I'm always "Why do I like that" and he helped put some pieces in place.

Still no excuse for John Denver and the muppets.....(Which I love).

I have watched a bunch of his analysis videos. What a great resource of wisdom and the useless trivia that packs my head.

Having trouble using the site?

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